16/09/2014 The Papers


16/09/2014

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Many apologies for that, some gremlins in the system.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

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Joining us from Glasgow this evening is Torcuil Crichton, the Westminster

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Editor for the Daily Record, and here with me is Hugh Muir,

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The mac congratulations on the new job. We will start with the papers.

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``. Women could prove decisive factor, according to the Telegraph

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and the Metro has families of two Britons paying tribute to loved ones

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killed in the Thai resort. The Financial Times reports two

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of the mobile operators that contributed to the demise of Phones

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4U are in talks with the administrator to

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buy parts of the company. As well as reporting

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on the referendum, the Guardian carries a story that US ground

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troops could be sent to Iraq. Those are some front pages and we

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will start with the Guardian. I will start with you, this is your paper.

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The Scottish independence would, NHS leaked fuel campaign clashes. Whose

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hands with the NHS be safer in, independent Scotland or with the

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union? This is an issue that has come to the forefront again today?

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Were getting very much to the endgame and both sides are trying to

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focus on what they can see as the critical issues that might get them

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over the line. The NHS has been at the heart of this and the feeling

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throughout has been that the Labour vote amongst the old no voters will

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settle this on the NHS Israeli important to them and both sides are

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keen to show that they will be more protective of the NHS and you can

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guarantee the NHS will be safe. What the no campaign has got today is

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this league that they say they have that shows, that purports to show

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there would be heavy cuts in the NHS even with independence and the yes

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campaign says we can guarantee the NHS in Scotland, the only way to

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guarantee the NHS in Scotland and the no campaign is pouring cold

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water on that with this league helping them to do that with a

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whistle`blower. In the next 48 hours the SNP will have a much different

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interpretation of that and they will make their own claims for the NHS.

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This issue shows just how tense and fraught this is getting and will

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get. Yes, it will get worse, and Torcuil Crichton, the SNP makes

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clear that if the NHS as far as Scotland is concerned stays within

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the rebate of Westminster, in terms of funding, then there will always

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be the potential for cuts in the future? Or creeping privatisation?

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That is a good point? It is one that will infuriated the Labour Party

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because of the roof has been any game changer in this long campaign

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over two years and with less than two days left to go, it is an alex

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Salmond has turned the danger of leaving the United Kingdom into a

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story of the danger of staying with the UK. And the Tories `` the story

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using this is the claim that the NHS will be privatised if you stay in

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the union. And that seems to have had an effect on his Labour voters

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at the SNP need to get over the finish line and that infuriates

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Labour because Labour knows that the NHS in Scotland is fully devolved,

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the only people who can privatise it in Scotland or the Scottish

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government. So they have been fighting back hard on that and this

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story today in the Guardian picks up on a story that was in the Glasgow

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Herald this morning showing that NHS management in Scotland under

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devolution and the Scottish government face ?450 million of cuts

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over the next two years. They will have to cut back and close wards and

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hospitals and reorganise things. And Labour say this is a silver bullet

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that shows that it is the SNP themselves cutting back on health

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spending and not the UK government. And the SNP have hit back but this

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makes the case for independence, but with one click in the box on

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Thursday you'll be free from austerity changes. The Daily

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Telegraph, women give the no campaign eight boost, according to

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The Daily Telegraph poll. And the position of women, which side the

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majority will come down on. That has been pretty influential in

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determining a lot of opinion polls? I am sure that Alistair Darling will

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be delighted by this because right from the outset, he has been helping

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that he could, with that very pragmatic approach, appeal to women.

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The feeling was... That very approach but lots of women off? It

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still does! I think that he has been thinking they would be looking

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through this lost and making the decision based on the hard, cold

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facts and that has been the criticism of this, there have been

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too many cold, hard facts and know the romance of the campaign or the

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grand vision. Of staying within the UK. Part of his reasoning for having

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a campaign like that is to try to get flat facts about what will

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happen to individual households, what will happen to people that hold

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the purse strings in the family? It might be old`fashioned but that is

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how the policy sees things. He will be pleased that this survey of 150

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Scots and within that, the six team % lead for the no vote amongst

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women. That is directly contrasted by the figures for men, 47 no and 53

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yes. That does look like women could hold the key here. There seems to

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be, according to this, and this is just one poll, suggesting that women

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are moving a little bit more towards the no campaign but isn't it perhaps

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problematic that so late in the day, we're getting this shift for

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Alistair Darling and Cameron and Westminster, happening so late? I

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will tell you something, Alistair Darling will not be pleased with

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this tonight, this is one of three polls in the Telegraph shows 58`42,

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the Scotsman has 48`52 and the Daily Mail has 58, 42. That is too close

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to call and Alistair darling and want to be 20 points ahead and they

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are in the fight of their lives. Darling says this would always go to

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the wire and it does look as if it is going to. More women have been

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persuaded back into the no camp by this Rauch of economic stories in

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the past week and because they are coming around to making their

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decision that perhaps a more rational and cautious decision about

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finance and the way things go, I am not a sociologist, I cannot explain

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why women more than men are less inclined to vote independence but

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these are very tight, 52, 48, with just 36 hours left to go. It shows

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the result to play for. Before we go, let his move to The Times. MPs

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warn of a Dalyan. That goes to the fact that for many people in the

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union, it should not be this close? And the stakes have been made, no

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question? As a result, we get all of this time are being thrown at the

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yes camp, devo max, super Max, some would suggest. And MPs in England

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are talking about rebelling. This week has been extraordinary,

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the things that the no campaign have had to promise to Scotland. What

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will annoy particularly English MPs is the promise they will retain the

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Barnett formula, the funding formula Scotland has seen to benefit from

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disproportionately. Tory MPs have always hated that formula and they

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have talked about getting rid of it. Even Lord Barnett himself thinks

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it's an old`fashioned formula. The idea that the Tories have had to say

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they will keep the formula will infuriate the backbenches of David

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Cameron. Keeping the Barnett formula was something Gordon Brown, Nick

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Clegg and Ed Miliband is the way to keep the union. It has been

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extraordinary in two senses. In the daily record we got all three party

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leaders, to sign a pledge, a promise to keep the Scottish Parliament, to

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give it more powers, and to ensure an equal and fair distribution of

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funding across the UK and that includes keeping the Barnett

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formula. And for very good reason, it gives Scotland because of the

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sparsity of its population, a bigger share. It is surprisingly Tory MPs

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in Westminster have kept a lid on the rebellion till now. Hopefully

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you will both be back for a full ten, 12 minutes in about one hour's

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time. Thank you for that. Stay with us on BBC News because it's time for

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the sport. Hello and welcome to sports day.

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This is what is coming up on the programme. Liverpool begin their

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Champions League campaign with a victory but they leave it late to

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beat Ludogorets. Defeat for Arsenal in Germany in their opening group

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