21/09/2014 The Papers


21/09/2014

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Gross are searching closer to the bridge in West London where she was

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last seen. Welcome to our look at what the

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papers will bring us tomorrow. With ours is Susie Boniface, the Fleet

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Street Fox, and Tim Stanley, a columnist for the Telegraph. What

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are you known as? With my hair, I was compared to Danny La Rue this

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evening! The FT says the Prime Minister faces more angry questions

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from Tory backbenchers following the promise of more devolution for

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Scotland. The Independent says that Labour plans to limit child benefits

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to an annual rise of 1% if they win the next General Election. The Metro

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has the body of Hannah Witheridge being flown home. The Telegraph says

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Ed Miliband has been backed into a corner over his refusal to sign up

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for the government plans for home rule in England and the Guardian has

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picked cheers of Emma Thomasson, one of the leading ladies at the protest

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marches against climate change. The Financial Times, then. Tory anger as

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Cameron tracks on the English pledge. `` backtracks. This was

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promised in a Roche, wasn't it? This is a problem, massive constitutional

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change being talked about but this came from that FrontPage file which

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itself came from the back of one opinion poll showing that there was

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a possibility of independence and in the vote and that turned out to be

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false. They have tied themselves into this timetable which Gordon

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Brown has promised will definitely happen no matter what and I am

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certain that Gordon Brown is not the Prime Minister and it is not up to

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him! I cannot think of any former Prime Minister who is telling want

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anyone else what to do. They get to this point where they don't know

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what will happen but something must add it does not matter what anybody

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does, they will be said to have lost or annoyed somebody, whether it

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Scotland or elsewhere or something and it will be a dogs backlist. Yes,

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I agree with all of that. It is extraordinary that we have had this

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massive vote in which 56% of the Scottish people said they wanted to

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stay in the union and they voted for no change and how many days later? I

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have lost track. Four days later and were discussing devo max for

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Scotland, which in the general panic was something they had to put on the

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table, but also English votes for English voters and possibly regional

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assemblies and this constitutional convention and the Financial Times

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says Tory MPs are angry that the Prime Minister has not committed

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himself to devo max and giving English control over English

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Parliamentary votes. It is only Sunday! He is having his big

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meeting... They promised so much! It is tomorrow at Chequers, about what

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he will do, and already Tory MPs are saying, when West make you cannot

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make up a constitution overnight, it is the Americans a couple of

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decades. We will come back to this in a different guise with a Ed

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Miliband being cornered. We stay with the Financial Times, the global

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call for climate change action and thousands of people around the world

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on the streets calling upon politicians to do something useful

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in New York. Isn't much chance of success? This shows how pointless

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those marches are because the point of the story is... Stay at home,

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don't protest! I believe you should put pressure on government to do

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something but the point of this is that China and India are not taking

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part in these talks and will not pledge themselves to anything. We

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can introduce all these low wattage bulbs that we want and ban all of

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the over energetic vacuum cleaners who want to China and India are not

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going to do this, what is the point? Doesn't the rest of the world have

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to set an example? EU emissions are 10% of the total and China is 28%

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but that is because China makes everything, European manufacturing

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is that a low because of the recession and the economies are

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different and it is quite simple, they will have more manufacturing

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and more emissions and fuel rules. I do nothing China really feels that

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they need to what Emma Thomasson, with the best will in the world,

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thanks. They tend not to follow western examples on things, not on

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human rights... George Bush was ignoring the summit and the only

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reason they have cut this is because the industry has collapsed. The

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Labour plan to freeze child benefit at the conference, we hear all sorts

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of pledges and potential policies. There is a suggestion that child

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benefit with the rising by only 1% in the first to make financial

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years. But does seem contradictory. `` two financial years. When they

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wanted to cut child benefit for people over ?43,000, they said

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everybody should because universal benefits can be useful? Labour have

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definitely gone back, and they are not fixing one of the mistakes in

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the coalition cuts, which was it were not going to introduce cuts for

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2`parent families when they both worked and earned under ?42,000 and

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they still got child benefit, single parents, they got nothing. The

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system needs re`form, we spend ?31 billion every year on child benefit

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and child tax credit and pain that two people who seem wealthy is

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something which a lot of people might have albums with, it needs

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reforming but cutting this by 1% sounds like a lot and a lot of

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papers are making a big deal out of this that over one year it will make

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a difference of ?10. It will save ?400 million. Ten quid per child. If

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it was not captured 1% you might get 20 quid extra in your child benefit

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but if it was, you would only get ten quid. When you put things

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together you see those savings. Politically this is very

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significant, the problem is this has been overshadowed by Scotland and he

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did not want that to happen. Two different things have changed, the

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Tories could always say, what are your reforms going to be? They are

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saying this 1% cut. Labour has always been hooked on the idea of

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universal at the back they are saying in the mirror, that they will

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take away some of the winter fuel benefits from the very wealthy.

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Good. I would agree and that something Cameron will not do and he

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has been pressured by people and his staff but he is still hooked on

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universal concepts. Overnight the position has flipped and Labour has

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the potential to look tougher on welfare and public policies. I think

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he is hooked on keeping pensioners happy because they vote for him.

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That is rather mean`spirited out OK. The Daily Mirror, Balls out... I

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just realise what that sounds like! You cannot see this but Ed Balls has

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been playing football and he has accidentally cut one of our

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newspaper reviewers! Rob Merit from the Northern Echo. He has come off

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worse and I have, says Rob. He did not score any goals. The point is

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that it will get tough. He says he will cut ministerial pay by 5%,

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which will win votes, but at the moment they get 100 and ?43,000 odd

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bird year but that will be cut to ?128,000, not the most difficult

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thing. It says that a vet and Ed Balls will lose ?13,000 between

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them. Does remind us that it is weird... They are married to each

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other. It is still not properly form but it will go some way to getting

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votes and the people will like it. David Cameron and Gordon Brown took

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pay cuts. It is not the same pay cut they would expect nurses and

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teachers to take. They also would expect a rise of ?74,000 per year as

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a starting salary. They will lose tea and biscuits. They are! The

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Telegraph, you will be pleased, Miliband cornered over home rule. He

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refused to say whether he backs the plan to ban Scottish MPs from voting

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on English laws. This so`called West Lothian problem. I thought he was

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clear he wanted to give English MPs greater scrutiny of legislation? But

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they would be allowed to vote? He has admitted apparently that that

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was unfair. So he has conceded in principal, apparently, that this is

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unfair but the problem that he has is the classic Labour won, he is

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worried that he could win the next election but because of the spread

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between people voting in Parliament, he might not be able to control

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English legislation. This could be nothing because I looked this up and

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I must write this down, since 1997, out of around 3000 laws, the vote,

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the impact of Scottish roads has only mattered in 21 cases. In

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Parliament. It is not very important that they'd affect things like

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foundation hospitals so they did matter but if they calculate that is

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the small number that are affected, having said that, I think that this

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grand idea for constitutional convention signs like he had heard

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of the idea and was not quite sure what it was. I think they are right.

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He has thrown something up, taking it out of the long grass because it

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wants to win in 2015. Surely there will be more consultation on at? We

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are not constitutional experts and it is like tapestry, it has been

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woven over time and you pull one thread because it does not look

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right, such as the West Lothian question, and it comes apart because

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if you take Scottish MPs out of initials, you say no Scottish MP

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could be Prime Minister so the Scots would be one step further to

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independence again. And the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

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They would still have issues like foreign policy and defence? They

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made a difference over the vote on Syria. The reason Scotland has a

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parliament is because there is a case to be made for it, there is no

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precedent for a lot of what is proposed, such as regional semis,

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where would they be? It has been written, as Ed likes to say, not on

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the back of a cigarette packet. That is all we have time for. We have

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more to get through so we shall bring you back later. For another

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look at the front pages. Stay with us. We will have more on the Labour

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Party pledge to raise the minimum wage to a pounds per hour. Coming

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up, it is time for click. Where are the extremists hiding? Without

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realising it? They have already told the

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