21/09/2014 The Papers


21/09/2014

No need to wait until tomorrow morning to see what's in the papers - Martine Croxall presents a lively and informed conversation about the next day's headlines.


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Kurdish refugees. Scotland Yard detectives are now

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looking for the missing schoolgirl, Alice Gross closer to the bridge

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where she was last seen in West London.

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Just too much to get through tonight, but we will try. Hello and

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welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us

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tomorrow. With me are the journalist and blogger, Susie Boniface, known

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as the Fleet Street Fox, and Tim Stanley who's a columnist and

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blogger for the Telegraph. Tomorrow's front pages, starting

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with the FT. The headlines say the Prime Minister faces more missions

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from Tory backbenchers following the Scotland referendum. The Independent

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says labour as to limit child benefits. The Metro featured the

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news that the body of one of the two British tourists killed in Thailand

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has been returned home. The Telegraph's main headline says Ed

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Miliband has been backed into eight corner `` a corner. The Guardian

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pictures a vocal Emma Thompson on its front page ` she was one of the

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many taking part in protests calling for more climate change across the

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world today. The Mirror has an interview with a policeman in

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Latvia, it is about a man wanted in response to a disappear and of a

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London teenager. `` disappearance. The mail says Ed Miliband has

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repeatedly refused to back the plans of the PM following the Scotland

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referendum. If you are paying close attention you will notice the coffee

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cup has disappeared from under the desk. I am only being honest.

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Cameron wants a vote on English home rule. The idea of having a vote

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before the next election to try to stave off accusations. Home rule? I

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am not sure the term is accurate. I am going to do something unusual, I

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will read it off my phone because I could not memorise the tact. A lot

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of people do not know what English votes by English MPs means, but in

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2010 ten Clarke came up with a blueprint. This is not particularly

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impressive. `` Ken Clarke. Under the proposal, all MPs, Scottish and

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English, will participate in the first and second readings of the

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bills but only English MPs would participate in the committee stage

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considerations. All MPs would vote on the final bill at report stage,

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but they would be an understanding that Scottish MPs would not overturn

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amendments agreed by English and peace. I cracked isn't that similar

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to what Ed Miliband has with a? `` English MPs. Isn't that similar ``

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is and that's a lot. Everything has been promised in a huge hurry,

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though one has thought it through. It has come through following a

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poll. Now they have promised and committed to a set timetable but

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they only have a few months, but they have realised they will be

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tearing up to much of the Constitution `` too much of the

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Constitution. David Cameron has started linking it to English

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devolution, probably too so it down. Consequently we have Alex Salmond

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saying we have people going back on their promises. The question is,

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what we do not know is everyone who voted no in the referendum, whether

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they voted no because they wanted devolution and believe the promises,

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or whether they wanted the status quo? The politicians have decided

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they all want devolution and therefore that is what we will get.

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Is that obvious? They will get more power. My point is we are only four

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days after the vote and nobody knows what they want yet anyway. There are

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stories in the papers' tomorrow. Some MPs are saying that not enough

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has been promised. There will be meetings tomorrow so maybe the

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package will be radical. But if it is anything like what I just read

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out, the big winner of this whole thing is Nigel Farr writes. `` Tim

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Stanley. Because of the success of the campaign, lots of promises will

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made. `` Nigel Farage. This is probably the exact a debate we would

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be having if there was a yes vote. Nothing has... This is not radically

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different to what we would be saying otherwise. It is shocking we are

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having the same debate. All of this was kickstarted by Gordon Brown, a

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former prime minister. I cannot think, postwar, of a British Prime

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Minister who has affected policy in such a way for years after having

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lost an election so dramatically. And insisting that it must happen.

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We will come back to what kind of support home rule will get. Now this

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photograph from The Times. Mr balls needed stitches in his cheek because

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of a football incident. `` Balls. Let us go back to what this will

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mean for English devolution. The Daily Mail... This is the non`

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Scottish headline. This is when Ed Miliband has been

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asked and he has declined to agree on the English vote. We already rule

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ourselves, the Scottish MPs have affected our laws. It implies that

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Scotland are running the show. A few months ago we got a lot of trouble

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saying that Ed Miliband's father has different views. What we have to

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understand is that Ed Miliband is a poor performer in live interviews.

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You need to crack a joke or think of a different way of answering the

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same question that has been asked over and over again. You need to

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have spontaneity. Ed does not have that. An honest answer will be nice.

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How about saying we need some time to think about? This is messing up

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David Cameron's head and now Ed Miliband's head. This is so Ed

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Miliband. There is the issue of constitutional reform and he is also

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worrying that he may become prime minister and not get anything

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through Parliament in future. Joe Joyce has said that we need better

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government but fiddling with the Constitution will not likely help.

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Susie Boniface is so passionate she has thrown a pen over her shoulders.

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He is in favour of regional assemblies. The left is very excited

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about the idea because treats the possibility of in perpetuity. That

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is what this is all about. The issue of having lots of politicians, you

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have low turnouts at people trying to disengage from Westminster. Let

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us look at the Scottish Daily Mail. The independents is inevitable, says

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the first Minister. `` independence. If we go inside we

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hear his personal view. The man has theoretically resigned and he is

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setting us the terms of what will happen next. He has also said that

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if we get full devolution, it is like we have gained independence

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anyway. It sounds apparently that the Yes campaign one. In another

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paper he described it as threatening unilateral independence. He is now

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not quite Braveheart but he is Ian Smith. But this will resonate with a

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lot of people. Are the losers. Alex Salmond says that the devolution is

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the same as independence. He cannot have it both ways. What he is trying

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to say in a clumsy way is that because lots of young people quoted

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yes, it will happen eventually anyway. He is not allowing those

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young people to change their minds as they grow older. He is also

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ignoring all the people under 55 who voted no. But he says the

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destination is pretty certain. At the last election when the Tories

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won, they are saying we've would not want to alienate that a small group

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of people. We feel so bad about the guys they lost and we will give them

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actively what they want. The Daily Mirror talks about Pat in paid. ``

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cuts in pay. It is talking about capping child benefits, a 1%

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increase for the first couple of years and ministers' pay would also

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be cut. It will be a vote winner to say we will all take a pay cut,

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currently they are getting over ?134,000, and cut that down to a

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mere hundred and ?38,000. What is interesting is that although the

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idea of capping by 1%, there will be people saying they are taking money

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away from children. `` 128 thousand pounds. This cap would mean you only

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get a ?10 increase, you are still getting more. In terms of polity

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differentiation it is significant. `` policy. The Tories have come out

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with a plan on childcare. Also Winter fuel allowance is being taken

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away from the wealthy. So Labour has decided that we have to be fiscally

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disciplined to win the next election. That is what the next

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conference will be used for. What all of the parties be trying to do

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that now the referendum is over? What kind of election is this when

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each party is trying to appear less horrible? You could do a hundred 80

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degrees and come out in favour of giving everyone the pound. `` 180

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degrees. The best preconference staff labour can leak to excite

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people after the independence vote. That will not convince enough of

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us. I have to say, tonight, your hair

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has had a lot of comment on social media. One man says, I would be

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throwing my pen if I was sat next to team with his hair, the bouffant is

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back. I have to say to people, stop looking up there, I am down here!

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Lovely to have you here. Now, it is time for The Film Review.

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