23/09/2014 The Papers


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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing


us tomorrow. With me are here in our London studio, Eleanor Mills,


Columnist and Editorial Director of The Sunday Times, and from Salford,


the political commentator, Lance Price. Tomorrow's front


pages...starting with... Hairy Cornflake faces porridge is the


headline on the Sun, it refers to former DJ Dave Lee Travis who could


be facing prison after being found guilty of groping a TV researcher.


And Two Leaders, Two Gaffes is on the cover of The Independent. Ed


Miliband forgot to mention the deficit during his party conference


speech and the Prime Minister was overheard saying the Queen purred


down the phone when she was told Scotland had rejected independence.


The Telegraph leads on the UK potentially joining international


air strikes against Islamic State in Iraq. David Cameron says we cannot


opt out of the fight. The Express has the same story,


claiming that the Prime Minister will authorise those strikes on


Wednesday. The Guardian says Ed Miliband played


what he hopes will be his trump card as he tries to put the NHS at the


heart of the election battle. The Times leads on the news that the


wife of Islamic State hostage Alan Henning has received a recording of


him pleading for his life. The Mail has the same story, saying


the jihadists are taunting Barbara Henning.


And the Mirror claims that parliament will be recalled on


Friday and that we could be at war by the weekend.


Not is a taste of the front pages `` that. Let's begin with the poor wife


of Alan Henning. She's the wife of the taxi driver who went out to


Syria. She hadn't heard his voice for nine months and was given an


audiotape in which you pleads with her to try to save him from being


killed by ISIL. As all these planes launch an assault on Syria, it must


be awful to know this. Both the Mail and the Times have led with the


story which has knocked Ed Miliband off the front pages. On the front


page the Mail, there are no precise details of the message and it was


not known if it was recorded before or after the airstrikes began. At


one point, the Daily Mail said that it was in response to the attacks


but it is not clear whether it came before or after. These are very


painful especially for the families of the victims but this time it is


an audiotape and not a video given to the media but just give in to the


wife of one of the hostages `` given. A very cruel and awful


position to put her in. On to the Times leading with this again.


Taking this thing forward a little bit in terms of coverage and


broadening it in terms of what may or may not happen in regards to


British action. The Mirror hints that it might happen as early as


Friday as David Cameron is a New York with Obama. The feeling at


conference was that it would be recalled... That maybe they hadn't


done more in terms of announcements because of Ed Miliband's speech


today but many are expecting Parliament to be recalled so that


they can discuss this and vote on this. We are picking up disagreement


on the part of Labour. They didn't get Syria through the Commons last


year. The way the politicians are behaving as if it is a sure thing,


that they will join a coalition with the Arab countries in Syria and Iraq


come up but there has been disagreement. Interesting wording


here. David Cameron faced accusations of risking our


international reputation after UK forces were not involved. An


interesting line they have picked out. And a lot of people were very


concerned when parliament failed to give its support for military action


after the use of chemical weapons in Syria and quite senior people were


saying that we had been left without a foreign`policy. It is quite


extraordinary that we have the situation of a coalition being put


together on a principally of Arab countries `` put together, pensively


up `` principally of Arab countries. It shows how our attitude


has changed. And the French have already carried out airstrikes in


Iraq. And the distinction is between Iraq where the government is


inviting us into do that and Syria where it is more dubious. It seems


to be implied that there is some agreement with Bashar al`Assad to do


this. At least that is what the Independent is saying. The Americans


appear to have informed the people of Syria. It is an interesting line


that President Obama had to take. He had to inform the government of


Syria through their United Nations representative that this action was


going to take place. The enemy was Bashar al`Assad and now the enemy is


ISIL. Things have changed. This takes us forward to the Guardian


which also covers that story, certainly its leading photograph


with President Obama and a photograph from the aircraft carrier


preparing for the mission against ISIL yesterday. Let's stick with


that and move on to the subject of Ed Miliband's speech. Lance and


Eleanor, you were both there. The centrepiece, and really the only


thing that's got everyone really excited was the pitch to spend 2.5


billion pounds on moving the NHS forward. It is a surefire winner at


any conference to talk about the NHS. Labour is rightly proud of


having created it and certainly in their view, having stopped the


Tories from dismantling it a number of times in their history. Ed


Miliband has decided that this has to be another election fought on the


central issue of the NHS and to make the case that this shouldn't be left


in Tory hands. Although it has been part of his argument up until now,


it has not had this central position and it may be a bit late to suddenly


tell the public that the NHS is under serious threat unless his


government is elected. I understand the shift of focus has been because


concerns regarding the NHS have risen according to polls. Certainly,


the kind of Labour brains operating on this think that the NHS is their


secret weapon in terms of wooing supporters who might have gone to


UKIP. Also in support of all those older voters who do support it.


Younger people and minorities overwhelmingly vote Labour but older


people go elsewhere and if they establish themselves as defenders of


the NHS, this could be keyed in at wooing them back `` key in wooing


them back. The referendum could really be a reason for this and that


is why you may have heard so much about it anecdotally. But the reason


why they have changed focus is totally based on polling and there


is also a sense that perhaps he forgot because he was doing it


without notes to mention the economy. I also thought it was


interesting that there was no mention of a multicultural Britain


or immigration and I don't believe the spin that he forgot it. We have


seen senior figures close to him very soon afterwards, and no one


said he missed out on the key bit. You have worked with Labour


supporters in the past, is it possible he forgot? It is because he


has made it part of his hallmark to do it without notes and to do it


from memory and I'm not sure what is worse, whether he did it


accidentally or whether he did it on purpose because you would have


thought that the leader of the Labour Party going into his final


speech before the election would know that the one weakness in his


armour is that people don't think they are credible on deficit


reduction and the economy and then not mention it. It seems to be


incomprehensible not to address it. He was great at getting everyone to


their feet and talking to the court demographic and about talking about


crashing down on millionaires for the NHS, but he didn't mention


wealth creation or how he is going to make Britain a richer place. I


get the sense from both of you that you had doubts today. I was in the


hall waiting to be convinced. The polls are putting Labour ahead and


we may well have him as our Prime Minister. I didn't find his speech


at all inspiring and I was sitting there hoping that I might. You went


there with an open mind? I did not go there thinking that I hated him


and didn't want him to succeed. I was waiting for him to impress me


because last year he did a very good speech that this one was flat and


full of platitudes. It was quite boring at. `` boring. I am glad he


missed some sections because it would have gone on even longer! It


was totally about appealing to the base, they went mad for the NHS


bit, and a lot of us older hats were just looking at each other going,


what is this about? I was desperate to be inspired and I wanted there to


be a really good argument, a good forward`looking and optimistic


argument about how we would be better under a Labour government and


we were not given that. He is a smart guy and knows how to plan a


strategy, there has obviously been a lot of thinking behind this and he


clearly thinks, and I think this is an important point, that's the kind


of grand eloquence we were used two from Tony Blair simply doesn't work


anymore. The public simply aren't going to take it anymore. Workman


like politicians are more likeable now but it doesn't make for very


exciting speeches. I disagree. Just look at Gordon Brown last week and


his passion about the Better Together campaign which finally


ignited the No vote in Scotland and was really a game changer. I think


to say that we only think workmanlike politics are what works


is absolutely not true. I don't think that, I am saying that is what


he thinks. Passion is fine but there has to be substance as well. And it


was very short on substance. The stuff about the NHS was the only


substance. I will get in trouble for saying that but that is what it felt


like. And all that about tax avoidance, we have heard for years


about how he will crack down on tax avoidance. This mentioned taxing


tobacco, none of it will really fund the changes they want to make in the


NHS. I felt it was rather dishonest. None of you were terribly


impressed by the sounds of it. Onto the Independent has embraced Ed


Miliband and what they are regarding as a misstep. They thought he forgot


his lines on the economy although we are not sure whether he did or not.


And Cameron said that the queen purred we can talk about that now ``


and we can talk about that now. It never ceases to amaze me how senior


politicians can be in front of the camera and say things that they


don't want us to hear. A number of people in the past to did the same


thing, at George W. Bush did it famously and Gordon Brown was caught


saying ridiculous things with the microphone still pinned to his


lapel... How can David Cameron be so stupid as to do it? Also this idea


of the queen purring... It is quite a weird thing to think about. Were


you enchanted by this, Eleanor? It was quite naughty that he let it


slip. He wasn't supposed to say it. And also this idea about him being


so filled with relief and calling up the Queen with the good news. I


think you are also enjoying the cartoon that went alongside it. I


am. Whenever her views are made public in any way shape or form,


they get it right every time. The caption says, it is Prince Philip on


the line for you, he is not purring.


That's it for The Papers this hour. Thank you Eleanor Mills, Columnist


and Editorial Director of The Sunday Times, and the political


commentator, Lance Price. Stay with us on BBC News. We will have more on


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