28/10/2015 The Papers

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

With me are the Daily Mirror columnist, Susie Boniface,

and the executive editor of the Huffington Post, James Martin.

The Independent has a story that police have used powers

under the Terrorism Act to seize the laptop of a BBC Newsnight

journalist who's been investigating Western born Jihadists.

The Financial Times looks at a review calling for a third

of all board seats at Britain's biggest companies to be held

The Metro says job advisers are to be based in food banks

across the country after the idea was tried out in Manchester.

The Telegraph is one of several front pages to show a picture of

Prince Harry laughing with Michelle Obama at the end of a basketball

Ministers ignored repeated warnings on the finances of the charity

Kids Company according to the Guardian's front page.

The Times leads on revelations by Sepp Blatter that England's bid

to host the football World Cup in 2018 was always doomed because

of a secret deal to award the tournament to Russia.

And the Express says the police have run out of clues as they scale back

And the Daily Mail's front page shows a crowd of marines who rallied

outside Parliament demanding a retrial for a Royal Marine who

was convicted of murdering a wounded Afghan insurgent.

So, many papers reporting on this boy who was stabbed to death in

school. The Daily Star pretty much devoting its whole front page to it.

It is always shocking, isn't it? You've got to remember how rare it

is in this country. Although we've had lots of high-profile crimes

committed in schools, sometimes why by pupils, it is a rare occurrence,

compared with America where students are killed quite often. We have to

remember that a good thing. And also, our response to this is a lot

more in format and measured as well. If there had been a shooting in

America they would be people calling for all people in school, parents,

teachers and students, all to be armed with guns -- more informed.

Here is someone who has been tragically stabbed in school. No one

is yet suggesting knife scanners and pat downs. We don't know what

happened and no one is going to suggest everyone gets a nice. They

were ten years ago with the stabbing ten years ago. The father is still

campaigning for that. This is what a lot of parents who have lost

teenagers to knife crime will start saying in the next few hours. They

will speak to the papers and say that we have to do more to stop

teenagers carrying weapons. S absolutely and the head of police

got it right when he used the words shocking and extraordinaire, because

it is in Britain. Especially in Aberdeen. -- absolutely. It's not

uncommon for it to happen in the US. It lays bare how silly the argument

is that the best way of getting crime is to arm more people. As you

say, if this happened in the states, and it was a gun, people

would say, we need more guns. This response in the UK is much more

measured. We are rightfully not saying we need security officers

armed with knives. You are right about the idea about airport

scanners. It comes up time and again. This is a shocking and

extraordinary incident, as the local police chief says. To try to put in

an airport scanner in every school. In that is so shocking and

extraordinary, it is not financially feasible. There are lots of ways,

unfortunately, to kill someone if you want to. It seems to be a

penknife in this case. You can use implements knocking around school

quite easily. You can't stop every tragedy. We don't know the full

details around this stabbing incident, but what we know is that

teenagers carry knives, sometimes without wanting to abuse them. I

carry a knife, I have a penknife in my handbag at all times because it

has a handy screwdriver and tweezers. She was just using it.

That is why you are carrying it. Technically it is an offensive

weapon. A policeman could arrest me. In the US, it is undoubtedly a

problem, with gun crime there, and I wouldn't argue that people in the UK

don't think we have a knife crime problem. I would rather knife crime

than gun crime. You can't really have collateral damage with a nice.

A lot of officers will say the hardest thing to find is a knife

rather than a gun. I fancy my chances against a knife rather than

a gun. We can try it out later, I've got one in my handbag. Ministers

ignored repeated warnings on Kids Company. We've heard it before. More

detailed in the Guardian though. Reports that Labour and conservative

ministers have given Kids Company ?50 million over years despite

warnings to be cautious. They seemed to have intervened to overrule

officials when they've raised problems and there was at no point a

competitive process to apply for the grants, which happens with every

other charity. If the government doesn't demand a charity that gets

public money behaves in a responsible manner, then it is

expected that charity will do whatever it likes. The government

got what it asked for. It wasn't applying the rules it does for other

charities, why was this one special? It gives credence to what everybody

was saying, especially when it was found out that Kids Company had

received ?3 million in five days before it was declared bankrupt,

that this organisation had a spell on the likes of David Cameron. Not

because they were doing a great job? Absolutely, and don't forget

the victims are those that were using the services and they are not

getting help, what has happened to them? These are the forgotten

victims in this incident, which has essentially become a political row.

They are collateral damage and we shouldn't forget that. The Daily

Express dedicate his page to the development of lack of development I

suppose regarding Madeleine McCann. Police have run out of clues -- or

lack of. This is a story about the fact that the Met Police are cutting

down the amount of officers involved. Extraordinary numbers, ?11

million had been spent on this investigation, you are talking about

1300 statements that have been taken, 1000 recorded exhibits, 9000

interviews, 60 sightings. Eight years later, not a single arrest.

They have been quite a few arrest but no charges. You can understand

why... No Madeleine. That is the important thing. I covered the story

when she disappeared in 2007. I was therefore brief while. If she had

been found, wherever she might be now, if she is alive, she would be

11, on the cusp of adolescence, turning into a young woman. Whenever

she comes up in public discussion, especially on social media, a lot of

people criticise the parents. If anyone is thinking about that, I

would like them to stop and think how it must feel to have your child

disappear into a currently thin air at the age of three, and eight years

later find the police haven't run out of clues, they have less to look

at, but it is being downgraded. She would be 11 years old. We still

don't have any evidence, no hair, no trace, no sighting, and that must be

devastating for anyone involved. Interesting to note, the spokesman

still saying Kate and Gerry are not giving up. There has been another 2

million given to the investigation for the officers to continue. It

isn't coming out of the net's budget. They have some clues but I

think we are waiting for aid miracle -- Met's budget. Moving onto the

Daily Telegraph, MI5 on hacking. Tell us more about this. I am not

surprised. You know... Why would you be? We've been told this has

happened. Absolutely. Two aspects to this, planning mass attacks on

Britain. I am not surprised. MI5 is hacking ISIS and people associated

with ISIS. Yes, it's not only the bad guys that do hacking. Good guys

hack as well. Wouldn't you expect security services, with the huge

numbers, and it is interesting that four fifths of MI5's agency numbers

are working on terrorism related issues. You would expect that these

guides asked trained in terms of technical surveillance, going into

the depths of computers -- guys. As we might see in the Independent, if

they are trying to access journalists' computers, surely they

are looking at the computers and data from a terrorist as well. We

are not just looking at well-organised, large cells or large

groups of people, it can be an individual who has been radicalised

and born into the ideology. That is the central threat of this current

kind of terrorism we've got. Unlike the IRA, from the 70s and 80s, there

isn't an overarching organisation, there isn't a structure, which you

can infiltrate. These are small cells of radicalised people often

sent off to invent something by themselves. What's interesting is

Andrew Parker is director of the security services and he is saying

there is more instruction coming from Islamic State from Syria,

people in contact with people here. There is perhaps more they structure

developing and therefore it is harder to track down. If they were

not hacking computers and mobile phones terrorists, I want to know

what the hell we were spending our money on, to be honest. Does it give

police the right to do what the Independent reports on the front

page, police using laws to confiscate the laptop of a Newsnight

producer who has been in in touch with terrorist in the UK stock -- in

the UK. Are we doing policing right that we have to seize the computer

of a journalist who is doing his job to get the intelligence useful to

security. In the public interest. Absolutely. A source who is not a

confidential source. These people have gone to fight for ISIS are not

exactly in deep cover. These people are surfacing in social media, they

are on Twitter, SnapChat, WhatsApp. Should we go to the extent where we

are seizing the laptops of journalistic? This is lazy police

work, asking the BBC Two research for them when it is so easy to find.

We should be glad they are not hacking the journalists' computers

from far -- BBC to research. If you are speaking to a jihadist plotting

attacks against the UK, to be honest, who is using Newsnight for

propaganda purposes. He has already appeared. He has done that to

provoke fear and terror. You think it is a message? To be honest, if I

was that journalist, to save my laptop, which has information about

thousands of other stories I might want to access, I think in the

interest of my journalism it would be better to try to keep hold of a

laptop. This person is plainly a criminal, plainly not operating in

anybody's best interest but his own and the Islamic State, and is not a

confidential source, and he is easy to track down, I would give MI5 the

information. I wouldn't wait for them to get a warrant. It would be

easier to give them the info. As the BBC points out, the editor of

Newsnight, we wouldn't stand in the way of a police investigation but we

wouldn't do the work of the police. There is a line that shouldn't be

crossed. And you have the feeling that he was going through the

motion. The police had to apply for a warrant to get access to the

computer for a court order. That is fine. Ian Katz isn't going to say

no. You can't stand on principles at all times. There are occasions when

journalists have info that would help the police. Especially if there

is a victim. It is not unusual for the police to contact journalists

and ask for help. Usually we did it because it is not a problem. In this

instance they stood on a principle and I think, personally, because

they've taken away a laptop with more information on it, there is no

reason not to have given him up earlier. Great publicity for

Newsnight and even better for the fantastic young journalist.

Fantastic producer. The Times newspaper, well, when you read the

headline, secret Fifa deal ruined World Cup bid. Not too many would be

surprised by the headline. Who is it coming from? Sepp Blatter. He has

started throwing people under the bus. He is facing two criminal

investigations on two consonants. He is stepping down as the head of

Fifa, which he has been in charge of Fifa, which he has been in charge

for he is tucking his cohort and his heir apparent, Michel Platini, off

the back of a coach. Although they had agreed to give the World Cup to

rush out and then America, it was screwed up because Platini went for

lunch with Sarkozy who had been at lunch with guitar and they gave it

to Qatar instead. The corruption that Sepp Blatter may or may not

have been in charge of didn't work well because Nicolas Sarkozy could

laugh it up -- Qatar. Is that the best type of corruption, the fact

that it didn't work! Yeah! It doesn't mean that if I talk about

taking over the BBC that it will happen. Britain spent ?21 million

when all we had to do was take Nicolas Sarkozy to lunch, so they

should be an audit on what we spend the money on. And more demands to

have the money paid back. Let's just finished the papers tonight with the

peak of Prince Harry and Michelle Obama in Virginia, in the US to

promote the Invictus Games for injured soldiers, to be held next

year in Florida. Clearly getting on and clearly very happy with his work

as well. And doing a good job, which is rare for a royal! And looking

very happy too. Enjoying what he is doing. Thank you for taking us

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