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four former Manchester United clubs. -- players. That is all in

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Sportsday, in 15 minutes. Hello and welcome to

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our look ahead to what the papers With me are Laura Hughes,

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political correspondent for the Daily Telegraph and

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Joseph Harker, who's Assistant The Daily Mail claims a British

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flight was close to being struck by a missile in Egyptian airspace,

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a few months The Telegraph shows

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a tired tourist waiting to be flown The fallout from the Russian plane

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crashing in Egypt is also The i says that intelligence

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about the crash suggests a bomb was The main FT story says

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a job surge in the US could pave And the Express claims many over-50s

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in Britain are struggling to get We will start with the airline crash

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story. The Guardian has said that Russia is suspending all flights to

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Egypt. US intelligence suggest a bomb brought the plane down this is

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all sorts of chatter that is being listened to, some of which will

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amount to nothing, but we seem to be edging closer towards the idea of a

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bomb. Today for the first time French officials are reporting that

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they have listened to the black box and heard the sound of an explosion.

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They say it is not a technical fault, that wouldn't happen with a

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technical fault. It is most likely a bomb. The question was that it might

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have been a ground to air missile, but that was ruled out early. It was

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initially said that it is impossible to launch a missile and hit a plane

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flying at 40,000 feet. This is the first time Russians will have felt

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that there is some kind of retaliation for response to their

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army being sent to Syria. They have been trying to deny that there could

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be any connection, but this makes the possibility that there is an

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involvement. And we wonder whether the Russian airstrikes we have seen

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in Syria will continue, because they were sold at home as a pre-emptive

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strike, and here we are edging towards this idea that Russian

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holidaymakers were a target. It is middle-class Russians that will

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really hit here, and it is interesting to see how they will

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respond. As you say, they put it off, denying it was a bomb, and

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today they have done a bit of a U-turn. It will be difficult for

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him, because there wasn't much backing for Russian troops to be on

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the ground, so whether that happens I don't know. This whole debate

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about British military intervention in Syria will come up again because

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perhaps it sends a message of this is what happens if you intervene.

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Maybe this is a message from ISIS. I think when these things happen and

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they get a reaction like this, rather than retreat they tend to

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step up their efforts. They will possibly say that this is a reason

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to do even more. We see this in conflicts everywhere, that once

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politicians have gone in one direction they seem to advance,

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rather than retreat. Fairly emphatic here in The Times that a bomb has

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torn the plane apart. We have been creeping towards this, but it comes

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back to the analysis of the black boxes, which were recovered early

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and they have now released this bit of information, which mentions the

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sound that was heard. Yes, this is the first time we have heard

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anything... That has given room for both Cairo and Moscow to deny it,

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but this kind of evidence, you can't really argue with it and I think

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that is why the papers have taken such a strong line. The

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consternation in Egypt that once again their tourist industry, upon

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which much of the country does rely, will be affected. This is terrible

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for Egypt, and if it is about lax security measures at the airport, in

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this time where there has been so many security concerns, you have

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Libya next door, where ISIS have a foothold, and the idea that in this

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context no one would be taking basic security measures at an airport is

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astonishing. The Telegraph talks about the tone that officials in

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Egypt are taking. Obviously public concern as well, Britain in

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particular but Russia as well, did suspend flights. The Telegraph has

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gone in with the line, quoting people who have said that Egypt is

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sabotaging Britain's attempts to fly tourists out, and this is an act of

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retaliation, because Egypt were not too pleased that Britain flew into

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these huge actions. It was actually a Russian plane went down, not a

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British one. There are twice as many Russian tourists out there than

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their wry British, and yet Cameron came out very soon and said he

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thought it was a bomb and we are going to stop flights, and they have

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not been happy about that. We don't know what intelligence

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hasn't been shared with the Russians that we have access to. It will be

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surprising if they say carry on going on holiday after this plan has

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gone down. It depends which side of the fence you are sitting on. Look

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at the Daily Mail, rocket attack on UK tour jet. This is a missile that

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was spotted 1000 feet away from a plane in August that was flying back

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from Egypt. It clearly wasn't an attack, it seems to have been some

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Egyptian military exercises that seemed to have fired a rocket, but

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the interesting thing is that it seems that the Egyptian military

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have acknowledged that the missile was theirs, it flew within 1000 feet

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of a passenger airline, and they have acknowledged that they were

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firing rockets that close. It is an extraordinary admission. If you were

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one of the people on board, it would be very disturbing to read that. I

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want to know how high the plane was flying and why there was no

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communication with the plane and what was going on on the ground.

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This happened on August 23, if they knew that these exercises were

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taking place how many tourists would have decided not to go anywhere near

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the Sinai? The Department for Transport has issued a statement in

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the light of this story saying, we investigated this reported incident

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at the time had concluded it was not a targeted attack, and was likely to

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be connected to routine exercise is being conducted by the military in

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the area, and at the time the pilot kept quiet about it. It doesn't

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answer the question why it was allowed to happen. Why was the plane

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that close to this missile? If a missile can come that close on

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August 23, it could potentially have happened last weekend, which is a

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scary thing. Unless it is a bomb, which got put in the hold. The

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Independent, hedge funds attack threatens care home meltdown. This

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is the four seasons group threatening to sell off a lot of

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homes. The fear here is that there is a headhunter coming in, hoping to

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buy up care homes. And they worry that business people are trying to

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make a profit out of elderly people, and the well-being won't be there

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primary concern. I think that is what this is getting out. It

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highlights an issue we have in this country, with an elderly population

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that is growing and we might not have the capacity to how is

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everyone. We don't have the sort of culture where we take in our

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elderly, our parents, which others do have around the world, just not

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here. And the government being urged to step into something where the

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free market is supposed to do some of the job for us, because it is

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expensive for councils to provide it. It is reported with astonishment

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that people might be caring for the elderly for money rather than just

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kindness, but we all know that there are many people trying to make money

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out of the health service and social care. When we leave things open to

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the free market we see things like people in zero hours and underpaid

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workers, and we get these routines where people are given 15 minutes of

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care from a visitor when everything is pared down to the absolute

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minimum. The actual care for people after hospital... It is very

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difficult for them to go home, but the national living wage is going

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up... If people are working on zero hours they are still facing

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difficulty. It is the fact that costs are pared down in other ways

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that these companies are still looking to make money out of this.

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The Telegraph, the PM is telling us everyone will have the right to fast

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broadband. In some parts of the country that is easier than others.

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It is, but it is interesting that everyone should have a look and have

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a cheque when they go home. The head of Ofcom has said that one in five

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households is suffering because of poor internet connection because the

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route is placed too close to a lamp, a stereo or a baby monitor. Many

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people have this problem, and it is something that they feel is their

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right, just like access to water and electricity. How this can actually

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be implemented is unclear. We can all move our routers. Please pass

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your thanks back on. Let's look at the FT. Pensioners steered towards

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cheaper council, it is expensive and difficult to manage this situation

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where you can now take money out of your pension. We have a situation

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since the last budget where people are able to remove all their money

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from their pension pot and spent it in one big splurge or invest it

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however they want to, rather than getting it as an annual annuity.

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There are obviously huge amounts of money involved in this, and people

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who are supposed to advise pensioners are so worried about

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getting it wrong that they have priced themselves out of the market,

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deliberately. They have then handed it over to this automated

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information line. Press one for a Lamborghini, press two for a home in

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the south of France, whatever... If only! I think most people would want

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that interaction with other people when working out what to do with all

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the money they have signed up. -- saver. This is your life savings,

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and if you are not comfortable using a computer, you want to use the

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telephone, what if you are one of those people? Finally, Amanda who is

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editing tonight found the story. I will protect outcasts... This is

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mistrust... The environment secretary said she cuts the mouldy

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bits of cheese and eats them anyway, but she is telling us that there are

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particular foodstuffs particular to this country that should get

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detection. She is so right. Stand up to the Bakewell tart and Blackwell

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-- Blackpool Rock. There are 54 food items that are protected, 64 in

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Britain, but France has 223. She is desperate to catch up with France,

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that Britain should have as many protected foods as France, so she is

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going out to try to build it up. I think Eccles cakes, Lancashire

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hotpot, Yorkshire pudding and Newcastle Brown ale, they should be

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protected as well. What else is on the list? I want you to say

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Birmingham balti. Jersey potatoes... Devon cider, Welsh

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laverbread. She says we need to shout about our food and drink as

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much as other countries. We have some very exciting food culture. She

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says this is about British branding, great British products. It

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is down to Europe, isn't it? What if Britain comes out of Europe, will be

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lose the right to protect? Maybe that will swing the whole referendum

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campaign! I must mention as a proud Midlander, the pork pie and Stilton.

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There are so many! She says she eats mouldy cheese. I love that story.

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Thank you both, I hope you have enjoyed it. Coming up next,

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