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Welcome to the Papers. Good evening to both of our guest is. Let's have

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a look at some of the front pages. The Daily Star leading with the

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downing of the Russian plane in Egypt last week. It says that spy

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chiefs here suspect British jihadi is made the jet on. The Sunday

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express says that extremists with British accents were overheard

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celebrating the death of the passengers and crew. Aviation

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experts say that tragedy will cause a fundamental overhaul of airport

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security across the globe. The story also makes the front page of the

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Sunday Telegraph. Its leaders are planned by the EU to pay African

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countries to take back asylum seekers. The Mail on Sunday claims

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that James Hewitt, Princess Diana's former lover, has offered some of

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her private letters for sale. And, the Sunday Times reports a

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high-profile footballers face losing millions of pounds after making poor

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investment choices. So, the lack of developments on this

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aircraft crash seems to lead everything. We have here on the

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Independent, it is 50-50 that CCTV was not being watched. They have

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spoken to an official at Sharm el-Sheikh airport, who spoke on the

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condition of anonymity, and they said that there is closed circuit

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TV, which is fair is much to spy on the employees as it is to spy on the

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passengers, but that it was routinely not being watched. So,

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there was a camera that was focused on the baggage handlers to make sure

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that people were not putting stuff into luggage that shouldn't be there

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for taking stuff out. Members of staff doing this. But that camera,

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the feed was regularly not being watched. A 50-50 chance of it not

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being watched. On the inside pages, CCTV station was routinely abandoned

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at Sharm el-Sheikh airport, says the headline. This is focusing not just

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on who may have got on the plane, who had access to it. Yes, there may

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not have been a suicide bomber taking the bomb on the plane with

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them, but it may have been somebody paid for somebody sympathetic to the

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jihad who was working at the airport and may have slipped the bomb into

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an item of baggage. Where is the baby getting this information from?

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It is speaking anonymously to people at Sharm el-Sheikh, people working

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there. They are also reporting that a lot of the CCTV cameras are

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broken, so not working to begin with. They have identified various

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slips in security at that airport in the days leading up to the plane

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coming down. They are also referring to... Which is what a lot of them

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are talking about, the jihadi chatter that is being picked up by

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various intelligence agencies. Let's move on to the Sunday Express, whose

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front pages dominated by that. This is not necessarily people involved,

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is it? Will people reacting? We don't know, it is a very loosely

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held together story. The Sunday Express is basically saying that

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jihadis were overheard in Egypt celebrating the plane coming down,

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but why wouldn't they be? That is what jihadi is going to do. To my

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mind, given what the story says inside this is quite an inflammatory

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headline, because what it says is that GCHQ could overhear jihadis in

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Egypt celebrating the plane going down, and some of those celebrating

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had British accents. Inside it says British link to jet bomb... Yes, and

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then it says there has also been some internet traffic suggesting

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that there was British involvement in the attack. This is from a GCHQ

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source. That, clearly, if it is true, it would be a smoking gun or

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closer to it. The quote from a GCHQ source, an anonymous source, goes on

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to talk about the British jihadis in Egypt fighting with Islamic State,

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who were trained in Syria and who have an electronics background.

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Speculative then? Completely speculative, and the worry is that

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this is all coming just as the UK is discussing whether to give more

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surveillance powers to British intelligence. And here they are

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saying, look! Look what we can hear with all our wonderful intercept

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capacity. What they are hearing is not very much and nothing that is

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very conclusive that all. At least not what they are telling us. I was

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going to say, that is what the papers have managed to pick up.

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Obviously they are mandatory and chatter -- monitoring chatter, which

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isn't that clever if you are jihadis and if you are involved in a terror

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attack. But if you are jihadis you will celebrate this. If he didn't

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celebrate it you would have to review what you are doing as a

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jihadi. The fact that they are celebrating it doesn't mean

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anything, it is the implication that they are linked in any way. It is

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internet chatter suggesting there was British involvement in the

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attack, that is different from chatter celebrating it. And

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different again from what it appears the Americans are saying, which is

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on the front page of the Telegraph, which is that people at ISIS HQ were

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also celebrating. There are so many different streams, lots of

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celebrating going on in the Middle East, from bad people, apparently.

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Certain parts of the Middle East. Obviously... Sometimes you get

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multiple groups claiming responsibility for one attack. A lot

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of Middle East experts say that Islamic State is not really in

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Egypt, it is groups affiliated with or supporters of all who have

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claimed a partnership with Islamic State who could be responsible for

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this if it is a bomb. If it is, that will be the first time ferrite

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Islamic State affiliates in the Egyptian Sinai, but if they were

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behind it and it would be the first time they have internationalised

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their attacks, because in the past year their attacks have mainly been

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on Egyptian security and Egyptian... There have been attacks

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in the north of Sinai, so nowhere near Sharm el-Sheikh. This would be

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the first time they have got involved in something International.

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With all of this, whether it is true or speculative, a lot of newspapers

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are also reporting on scrutiny of airports not only in Sharma fake but

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elsewhere in the world as well. There are some other news stories in

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the papers tomorrow, shall we move on to the Telegraph and an attack on

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a secret EU deal for migrants that is actually no longer a secret? It

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has been leaked to the Sunday Telegraph. They are saying that the

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EU has come up with a proposal to pay African countries to take back a

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lot of the migrants who have come over to the EU during the course of

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recent months. The quid African countries, who have skills

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and experience which the EU economy needs. People like doctors,

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entrepreneurs. Whoever it is in the EU who is coming up with us, I guess

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that is how they would spend it. That they are trying to ensure that

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the migration that does happen to the EU is migration that is

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economically beneficial. The way the Telegraph is painting it is that

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they are actually... Week, the EU taxpayer, are

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effectively bribing African countries to take back the migrants

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we don't want. To take back asylum seekers that we don't want, which is

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kind of not There maybe some human rights groups

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who have something to about that. Under international law you

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being persecuted. Even if you are paying for it, yes! There is no easy

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answer to the migrant crisis. is no easy answer but I don't think

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this is the answer. No one claiming that there is an easy

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answer, but this... I think this is really insidious, the idea of

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ranking migrants entire... Asylum inside, that is

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what -- asylum aside, that is how our entire immigration system

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works. Who don't we want? People who clean our streets or people who run

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our NHS? It wasn't that long ago that Theresa May said that we had an

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asylum seeker system we are very proud of, but this doesn't sound

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like something that will go down very well with many people. Clearly

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if the quid pro quo for that is talking about economic migrants,

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clearly if you are Doctor Who is being encouraged to come to the from

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Africa, you are by definition not an asylum seeker. So there is some

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muddy nest between which two categories of migration we are

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talking about. All of that needs investigation on a case-by-case

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basis. -- if you are are Doctor who is being encouraged. And here we

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have a letter to Donald Tusk at a public letter by David Cameron that

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will be released. This will be saying if you don't do this list of

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things we will quit the EU. That doesn't seem like a great way to

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start the negotiation, with an ultimatum. You risk those 27

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European heads of state going, all right, fine, leave. It just seems a

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bit of a weird way to enter this conversation. Are you saying this is

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more for rust and it is for them? It is an open letter, so there is the

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answer. I think it is interesting if Cameron is making a threat about an

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exit from the EU, and one that he would support and campaign for in

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the British referendum, which is coming up next year, then that may

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be a shift from what we have seen before from this government, who

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have been saying, we hope to get the deal that we can champion to the

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British people for staying in the EU. You think it gives a mixed and

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confusing message to the public from David Cameron, saying I want to stay

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in but I'm willing to pull out, we have a referendum, you decide. It is

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a spin doctor's nightmare. It always has been, there has within a

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confused approach and it is because the party is completely about it.

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You can hear the music, we have run out of time. They did before taking

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us through the papers. Up next, The Film Review.

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