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Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.


With me are the economist Bronwyn Curtis and writer


Many papers lead with the downing of the Russian plane


The Daily Star Sunday says spy chiefs here suspect British Jihadis


The Sunday Express goes with the same angle, saying that


extremists with British accents were overheard celebrating the deaths


Aviation experts in the Observer say it will force a fundamental


The story also makes the front page of the Sunday


Telegraph, but its lead is a plan by the EU to pay African countries


The Mail on Sunday claims that James Hewitt, Princess Diana's


former lover, has offered some of her private letters for sale.


And finally, the Sunday Times reports how some


high profile footballers face losing millions of pounds after allegedly


You can the front page of the Observer calls for a new Iraq of


airport security after the latest terror.


The focus is on baggage handlers. That is not a surprise, is it? No,


but actually one of the things, when I think about security, every time I


go through an airport I go off because I have got a metal hip. When


I don't go off I start to worry. That is where I stand. I have taken


quite a lot of interest in this, and I wonder, couldn't they take the


human element out of it a bit more? Couldn't we not have to have baggage


handlers, and it could all be done electronically? I'm sure that is not


possible, but one of the things I noted here, apart from different


baggage handlers and screening, the security needs to be more


unpredictable and thorough, but I wasn't sure how you would do that.


More unpredictable, yes. When I was a student I used to load baggage on


aeroplanes at Belfast Airport and one of the things you had to do was


lie in the bags up and everybody would say that is my bag, and it did


not go on the plane unless they did. It was primitive, but you could see


people picking up their own back. You can't do that now. No, and one


of the problems is it is a week on since this terrible event, and all


of the papers had a go at it it in some way or another, but the


Observer is essentially saying the focus is on the baggage handlers,


rather than it is going through what looks like rather slack security.


But we don't really know. The speculation is saying security


should be tightening up, and the Observer is saying the investigation


is focusing on the baggage handlers, but the real answer is we don't know


how this suspected bomb got onto the plane as yet. One paper says jet


bombers spoke with dish accents -- British accents. That would be


shocking, but not entirely surprising, given what we know about


the ability of some of these organisations. That is true, and


speaking of these dish accents, it says they picked up this chatter


after the event, but what the paper is not saying is that they were


overhearing the people behind the bombing itself. It is saying that it


would not be a great surprise to us to know that certain sectors in the


Middle East would be happy about it, and some of those could well have


been British, but it does not necessarily get us closer to who was


behind the bombing. Some see this as a double or triple hit because they


don't like the Egyptian government, they don't like the Russians either,


and in general they don't like foreigners coming into the middle


east. That's right. There is a lot of speculation. Because the story is


quite old, it is a very sophisticated, Kathleen planned


operation. We don't really know that because if the CCTV is not working,


baggage handlers could come in and out, it maybe they had a chance to


do it. There are expert smugglers around, and so on, so there is a


huge amount of speculation, but we still don't know. That was the


Independent story. It was 50-50 that no one was watching CCTV. There have


been reports of huge lapses of security that could have let in the


bomb. There are a raft of questions here, how did they get the bomb in,


and how was it detonated? Was it done by a timer, or I ate Asher


device, so when it went to a certain height the bomb went off, which is a


possibility. Yes, and there is a fear that some of these devices


don't contain any metal, and that is a big problem because it could be


the sort of device that does not show up on normal detection


techniques. The Independent on Sunday is talking about the CCTV


station being routinely abandoned at this airport, and if that is true it


is very worrying, but it is more speculation about what is going on


out there. Also, focusing on the plight of these people who are still


stranded out there, terrorist may have to wait up to ten days to


leave. Yes, -- tourists. There must be a reason why it is taking so long


to get them home that we don't know about. The planes are there, waiting


to come back. If they are doing it so carefully, they must be still


worried about the situation. I wonder if either of you think this


plays into the current political debate about the so-called snooper's


Charter. Because if this originally came from GCHQ, about what we know


what went on, in the views of some people, I spoke to some outcome


Rifkind the other day, some people say that shows just how important


GCHQ is to our security. Yes, and it is fortuitous for Theresa May with


her timing, in the way that these events that this out, but we don't


know the extent of the chatter they are hearing. It seems that it may be


leading them to believe they know who is behind the attack, but I'm


not sure we are any closer to reaching those who are behind this


attack. Moving on to some different stories now. The Sunday Telegraph,


there will be all sorts of stuff about our negotiations about the EU.


The secret EU deal for migrants. What they are saying is that the EU


is planning to pay African countries to take back asylum seekers.


Interesting, isn't it? Clearly, the number of people coming is just


overwhelming. We all know that, and they have put aside 1.3 billion


euros and they are going to pay these countries to take back people,


but also open up to some people like students and doctors are more


qualified people, giving them visas to come into the EU and perhaps


stay. So, visas to start with, but the character that they might stay.


Will this work? That is a very good question. Certainly, the countries


will take the money, but will they actually get those people to come


back and stay? That is a 2 point problem. That's right. Will they


come back and stay, but also they have got to agree to go in the first


place. I can't see many people who have come on horrendous journeys to


get to the Northern Europe, voluntarily getting on a plane back


to Africa. The Telegraph is saying it has seen leaked documents of this


plan. I don't think anybody is going to fall for an idea that Northern


Europe gets to keep the best people in terms of doctors and scientists,


and handbag people who could be criminals or potential terrorists.


-- hand back. Across Europe and in Britain, there seems to be an


outsourcing of our problems. Let's get universities to check on


students to make sure they have visas, get landlords to check who


they are renting it to, and now the EU is then let's get African


countries to take these people back, or give Turkey money to keep Syrian


refugees there. The question is, is it going to work? Nobody knows.


Fundamentally, you need to resolve the conflicts in these areas which


means people are leaving. Until you do that, people want to come to


Northern Europe. One of the most interesting stories of the day is


lower down on the Telegraph's front page. For a healthy fry up, consider


Lars not vegetable oil. This goes against everything we have been told


for the last 40 years, doesn't it? This is a really interesting story.


I have been frying in coconut oil for some time, that are supposed to


be one of the best, but this thing about natural is that, these


processed unsaturated fats really don't work, but the other point is


that they have high levels of things that can cause cancer or dementia


but still the advice from the NHS, and Public Health England, is to use


those bad fats, rather than what we now know, or think we know about the


good fats. Yes, so not sunflower oil but butter. But has made a big


comeback. With all the focus on sugar, butter and lard. He would


have thought it? Absolutely, different scientists, different


view. A scientist at Oxford is saying that the trouble with this


sunflower oil and corn oil is that they are contributing to a drop in


vital omega three fatty acids in people's brains. I suppose the


general thing is that if you really want to be healthy is have some


fruit for breakfast, not a fry up. I don't know how coconut oil tastes,


but butter just tastes better. I could never eat margarine, I can't


stand the taste of it. I have always used butter and it does taste a lot


better when you are using these things. It now gives us all the tick


in the box to say good, we are going to use this because it tastes


better. I heard you are supposed to put a bit of butter outside and a


bit of margarine outside and leave it for a view ours, and all the


flies will land on the butter because they won't eat margarine. It


is a good experiment to do! Now, Royal story, Major Hewitt


selling Diana's letters. I should point out that he did not go ahead


with selling the letters. He was approached by an LA -based dealer


who specialised in Diana memorabilia. They are talking about


some letters from a very early stage in their relationship. He was caught


at looking at selling them, but did not go ahead with it. It sounds like


the Mail on Sunday have tracked him down to a two-bedroom flat where he


lives with his mother outside Exeter, said he is having a problem


and does have letters which he once boasted he could get millions for,


so it might not be the end of the story just yet. I don't see anyone


will be terribly sympathetic with him. No, and apparently the agent of


them to William and Harry through their solicitors, and they said go


away. I think most people think this is really old. He has got about 60


letters altogether, I am told. But nobody is interested, nobody wanted


to buy them. One minute left, the back page of the Mail on Sunday has


got Stoke one, Chelsea zero. Jose Mourinho really in trouble, isn't


he? I think so, that is one of the biggest stories today. That defeat


yesterday, there is lots of speculation on social media, it is a


huge problem for him. Chelsea have never done so badly. It is one of


the big sports stories of the weekend. The big question is, are


you prepared to give the manager a chance. Alex Ferguson went through


quite a bad period before he became one of the greatest managers in


history. Is clearly hugely talented. Yes, he has got the persona that he


is invincible. But I think it is more that they start to believe, I


always think people who are famous start to believe their own


publicity. I am brilliant, I am the only manager who can do it. This


story we have heard about the doctor, you clearly fell out with


him. Dick time. Dash-macro big time. She had to go. It has gone badly


since then. Yes, don't take on the women, that is all I can say. Rate


advice. Thanks to my guests Bronwyn Curtis


and Vincent Moss. Just a reminder we take a look


at tomorrow's front pages every evening at 10:30 and 11:30 here


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