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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

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With me are Kate McCann, who is senior political correspondent

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at the Telegraph, and the political journalist Rob Merrick.

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Tomorrow's front pages, starting with the Financial Times.

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It says George Osborne is considering a plan to sell-off

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the Government's stake in housing associations, in what it says would

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be one of the largest-ever privatisations of its kind.

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Corbyn steals a march on Labour plotters is the headline

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It suggests the Labour leader is looking to change party rules, in a

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The i has details from the court case involving a Brixton man accused

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of imprisoning and beating his daughter over a 30-year period.

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The Telegraph sets out further details of possible industrial

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action by Junior doctors, who are currently being balloted

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The same story is the lead in the Guardian.

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The paper says that Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt is

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The suggestion from a Tory minister that those

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affected by tax credits cuts should go without, to make ends meet,

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The Times leads with the migrant crisis.

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The paper says Europe's system of open borders is under serious

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And there is a warning that Storm Abigail could wreak havoc

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So we are going to start with The Times Which features the latest

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developments, in some cases lack of them as well, in the migrant crisis.

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Borders in crisis after migrant talks fail. Free movement across

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Europe close to collapse. There was some agreement, though, wasn't

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there? There was some agreement, but perhaps not be agreement that

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everybody wanted to see. The African leaders have agreed to voluntarily

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received failed asylum seekers, at European leaders were hoping... It

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is kind of where we are right now, isn't it? Exactly, they were hoping

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for an agreement that that would be as a matter of course, and the

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biggest point in this article is that Schengen, the system of orders

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between 26 EU nations of free movement across those borders, is

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looking likely to collapse. And Donald Tusk is warning more

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countries are going to bring back border controls that hits at the

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very heart of what Europe is about. Is also a big part of David

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Cameron's argument and renegotiation planned that border controls are

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very important. So it is a very, very big issue for European leaders

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to have the sort of grapple with. It will be interesting to see what

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happens in those coming days, to see whether borders will be put up to

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stem the flow of migrants across Europe. It is a big issue which has

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been here for some time. It will be here for a lot longer, and surprise,

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surprise, it is another story about European leaders failing to agree in

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a crisis over the big issue of the day. You know, the reaction of some

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people, of course, when these people arrive in Europe is to say, well,

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they should go back. They are economic migrants, this is the Aga

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met, they should go back. But of course, what this shows, even if

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that is desirable, which is an open question, it is so difficult to

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achieve -- this is the argument. Presumably the solution would not be

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what Germany has done, to open its borders to refugees, but this story

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talks about the pressure mounting on Angela Merkel. There is a quote

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comparing her management of the crisis to a careless skier who

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triggers an avalanche. That quote comes from her own Finance Minister,

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her own ally. There is disagreement on the governments of various

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countries. There does seem to be a multiple procedure that people are

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talking about, to try and ease the migrant crisis. It is managing the

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borders, it is allowing people in, and it is easing and trying to get

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rid of the various issues they are fleeing from. But what there doesn't

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seem to be as a general procedure that everyone except, everyone

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agrees too. And that is the problem, really. There is a big

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problem here that there are lots of people already in Europe and in

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European countries and nobody knows how many because they have come

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across borders that are open. And that is going to become even more

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problematic when we see people looking for housing. So there are

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migrants from Africa and other parts of the world, and the Middle East,

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who are in these camps. And that cannot last forever. That issue is

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going to become bigger and bigger as people come. Something I learn from

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our correspondent Clive Murray is that Britain is the biggest donate

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of aid in Europe -- Clive Myrie. And they are quite heavily involved in

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the fight against Islamic State as well. The counter to that is that

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that might be at treble, but Britain has -- that might be admirable, but

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Britain has talked about thousands of potential refugees by Christmas.

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We have not seen any figures as to how many of that 1000 have arrived.

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And as Kate says, the conditions are horrific. As the weather turns in

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southern Europe, it is frightening what will happen. To remind us,

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there are still millions more on the move in addition to those in refugee

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camps. The Guardian, the health secretary condemns extreme action as

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doctors warn of three walkouts. The first one very much industrial

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action. Extreme action which you perhaps didn't see coming. I think

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it was something he hoped wouldn't happen but it looks increasingly

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likely and I don't know if Jeremy Hunt will be able to avoid that.

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There has been a lot of to-ing and fro-ing in the last couple of months

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in trying to renegotiate doctors' contracts. I think it is likely that

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they will walk out. I think that is going to look out on both doctors

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and on the government. I don't think anybody is going to win out of

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this, and certainly not the people who are going to suffer, literally

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because their operations will be cancelled, their appointments will

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be put back. People will really feel this. And it will be the first time

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that dock as have walked out on strike, it is very symbolic. The

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argument is about whether Jeremy Hunt is changing the terms of the

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doctors' contract to such an extent that that means lots of people are

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going to move out. On the front page of the Telegraph, there are some

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figures showing only 1% of junior doctors will earn less, the rest

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will add more all the same. So I think there is a question about who

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is sort of telling the truth here? And junior doctors are refusing to

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sit down with Jeremy Hunt, or saying that they don't want to sit down

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with Jeremy Hunt and talk it over, and that means they are likely to

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vote for the strike action. What happens as a result of that will be

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really interesting. Jeremy Hunt digging his heels in over this. It

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will be interesting to see how this all plays out. The Guardian is

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pretty adamant that he is not going to back down. Presumably he has no

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choice but to dig in. He has conceded ground already it was he

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has reassured us that the majority of doctors will not be worse off

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even as they lose their penalty rates, so he has given way to some

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extent. The government is part of a plan to save tens of billions of

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pounds on the NHS by 2020. No one believes that is going to be

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achievable that if you are going to get anywhere near it you have to

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find a way to make the NHS run more efficiently. That is going to sound

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very odd to people at home because all day we have been reporting on

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the NHS missing targets and being overwhelmed with admissions, and yet

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there are more cuts to be looked at. They wouldn't call them cuts,

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they would call them efficiencies. They would say ways that the NHS can

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be run more efficiently and the money can be pumped back into the

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NHS. It is an enormous sum to find, ?20 billion. This is an attempt to

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find more by making working hours more sensible. We are trying to

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change their working practices. The doctors are demoralised, working

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hard, and putting in the time and effort, they would argue. The danger

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is if more of them quit and fly off to Australia where they don't work

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as hard and they earn more in the sunshine. Part of the reason we lose

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doctors abroad. Shall we move onto Independent. Jeremy Corbyn steals a

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march on labour plotters. Basically the independents suggesting he is

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looking at changing the rules for the Labour Party, being booted out.

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Or not re-elected, anyway. And some of his own MPs, it is the latest of

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that story, isn't it? Jeremy Corbyn and his top team on one side who are

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wanting to make some pretty drastic changes, got some very strong ideas

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and then you've got the so-called moderates on the other side who are

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a bit concerned about that and what it might mean. There has been some

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interesting talk today about whether journalists should use that term

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moderates for these MPs, Jeremy Corbyn's camp feels that paints him

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as extreme, which is unfair. What term do you use? We use different

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terms, we do use moderates. It has taken on the meaning of people who

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used to be in the Labour Shadow Cabinet and who would not have been

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seen as quite as left wing as Jeremy Corbyn is now, and therefore are

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more moderate. That is why it it is used. This story is interesting

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because it seems to suggest, and I think that is broadly true, that

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Jeremy Corbyn is trying to shore up his support in case there is a bid

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to oust him as leader. As Robert was saying earlier, it is unlikely to

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happen in the next couple of months for the next couple of years,

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because a lot of people in the Labour Party accept that Jeremy has

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a big mandate from the electorate and they want to see how that plays

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out. And it would play very badly for them to try and take on but at

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the same time they don't underestimate the fact that there a

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group of MPs below the surface planning to mount a campaign to

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introduce a new candidate at some point. Some papers you would expect

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these kind of headlines, he is not shaking them off, is he? I wonder if

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he can win an election or be Prime Minister without the support of the

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press? There has been some speculation perhaps, if Labour is

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doing really badly in three or four Mac years' time, resuming that

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Jeremy Corbyn is still there, that perhaps he would be willing to make

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way for another left-wing leader, someone who would follow much of his

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programme, but perhaps he might be convinced that he himself is not

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electable, that he would lead Labour to defeat. This would suggest

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otherwise. If he is attempting to change the rules, that would suggest

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to me that he is determined to lead Labour into the next election, and

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that would send shivers down the spines of most MPs who think he will

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condemn Labour to certain defeat. Another MP making the papers, Tracey

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Crouch, has apologised. Losing tax credits, then ditch your pay-TV.

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This is an interview where she suggest that people trying to make

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ends meet cut back on what she deemed as luxuries. So I have mixed

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feelings about this story. Really? Yes, because the original interview,

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this is a line from the original interview but the interview focused

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on the fact that Tracey Crouch very sadly had a miscarriage during the

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election campaign and that led to the question of whether she would

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want to accept the position of sports Minister, which in itself is

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quite a big story. And I think that has obviously been lost given that

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this is the angle some newspapers are taking. She still said what she

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said, she said it in the context of conversations with her constituency,

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saying that she has seen examples where people are still paying for

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Sky TV and maybe they need to have a rethink. We were discussing it

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before we came on, it is obviously not a particularly wise, to make and

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I think Tracey has apologised this evening for saying it. The Daily

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Mail does point out that perhaps it was coming... It wasn't the right

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thing to say but it was coming from a well-intentioned place. It does

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point out that she was brought up by a divorced mother on a pretty modest

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income. So she was talking from experience of having to make ends

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met, in a way. I think she has made what many would think in most

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circumstances is a sensible point. That the family is struggling it may

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have to make do without some of the things it would wish to have an Sky

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TV is maybe one of those. things it would wish to have an Sky

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TV is maybe one of While it might be a sensible point, it is terrible,

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terrible politics because the tax credits crisis is so much bigger

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than that. 3 million people are going to lose ?1300 a year, so

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clearly that is much more than the cost of Sky TV. Huge numbers of

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those people will not have Sky TV, so it is hugely offensive and more

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than that, the government broke its promise to people not to take that

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?1300 off than, a promise that was made by the Prime Minister during

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the election campaign. Maybe a sensible point in another time but

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very bad politics. Would it be getting as much coverage if we

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didn't have the tax Reddit cuts? No, it is because we are in the middle

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of this tax credit row -- credit cuts. And they are going to have two

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announced new measures in the Autumn Statement. They have no idea what

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they are going to do. And they are struggling to figure out what it is

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going to be, and... We have run out of time for a fun story, no time for

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a skateboarding squirrel or. ! -- skateboarding squirrel or a dog!

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