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the outcome of those climate change talks. With us now to look at the | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
papers. With me are Mihir Bose | :00:00. | :00:09. | |
from the Evening Standard Tomorrow's front pages, | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
starting with... The Observer welcomes the historic | :00:13. | :00:14. | |
climate change deal in Paris, quoting the words of the French | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
president Francois Hollande who described it as a "major | :00:18. | :00:19. | |
leap for mankind". The Independent shows a line | :00:20. | :00:21. | |
of dancing polar bears The paper also claims David Cameron | :00:22. | :00:23. | |
is to make a dramatic climb-down That story also makes the front page | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
of the Telegraph, pointing out the U-turn will be | :00:28. | :00:33. | |
on the Prime Minister's central The Mail carries an exclusive | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
interview with Shaker Aamer, the British man held | :00:37. | :00:43. | |
at Guantanamo bay for 14 years. The Express goes it alone saying | :00:44. | :00:51. | |
more than 400 miles of road works will be cleared for the great | :00:52. | :00:54. | |
Christmas getaway. The outcome of the talks in Paris. | :00:55. | :01:12. | |
Not all of them have gone with the climate change. What is interesting | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
about the Observer story, is that while it says it was a major league | :01:17. | :01:22. | |
for mankind, it says that temperatures will be rising to a | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
maximum of 5 degrees. It does not give any detail of what was agreed. | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
And the devil is in the detail. This looks to me like an agreement to | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
agree rather than actual agreement which can be implemented or maybe | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
invented. I think we are being a bit too... The leaders, understandably, | :01:42. | :01:47. | |
are a bit anxious and a bit too ambitious in the claims are making. | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
Do you think, Sunny, after Copenhagen which was such a | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
disaster, almost anything would be better? There is something to | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
celebrate, which is the fact that this was actually signed. But if you | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
look at the draft that was circulated earlier today, it is very | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
much an agreement that is a first step. Let's not forget that most of | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
the leaders who have signed it now have to go back to their own | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
parliaments. It has to be ratified. And regardless of -- what Obama has | :02:20. | :02:28. | |
said, it may not get through the house. We are going into a election. | :02:29. | :02:34. | |
The Republican side have made a virtue of denying climate change | :02:35. | :02:40. | |
completely. I am happy that this has happened, but I think this agreement | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
is something to be taken forward, an agreement to agree. And India for | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
instance says it will still be burning coal and India is a | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
developing country that wants to develop. We will have to see exactly | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
what India has agreed to do. China has changed tack but what will India | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
agree? The second most populous nation in the world. We will have to | :03:05. | :03:09. | |
see exactly how it is implemented. In a lot of praise compared to | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
Copenhagen, but we should be a bit cautious. I think that is always | :03:14. | :03:19. | |
sensible women are talking about getting 195 countries to agree. And | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
we don't have the clarity about emissions. You were saying Russia, | :03:24. | :03:31. | |
China, Japan and India. We have some clarity on some of these, but we | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
don't have clarity on what Russia has signed up for and where they | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
will stand on this particular agreement. Yes, it may be signed, | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
but where the details may come in, we are not sure. So we should hold | :03:47. | :03:54. | |
the champagne for a bit. Isn't this partly about sending a message to | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
the markets, to investors, that we are heading away from carbon fuels | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
and renewables are the place to put your money? And if the markets drive | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
that, we will end up using renewable energy. I think one of the big | :04:08. | :04:15. | |
shifts from Copenhagen has been a business signal that has gone out. A | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
signal from part of the private corporate world. But we still are | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
reliant on fossil fuels to a huge degree and unless that is addressed, | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
we will be in the cycle and yes, the signal has gone out, but we are | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
taking a tiny step. I am not sure if it is a step or a shuffle forwards. | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
And we have to tackle the wider questions of developing crop | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
countries, what is the model they are aiming for? Is it the model of | :04:45. | :04:52. | |
America, with two cars? But to be fair to America and China, they have | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
invested huge amounts of money in renewable energy sources. But they | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
have got to understand that for prosperity, you don't need three | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
cars. That's other model, we have not gone back from that. That is | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
what everybody wants. If you want that, where do you get that? We have | :05:10. | :05:15. | |
not discussed that enough. We haven't told you, but we are going | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
to get you to cycle home on a tandem! I will look forward to that! | :05:19. | :05:25. | |
I will be at the back. Let's stay with the Observer together. Oxford | :05:26. | :05:31. | |
and Cambridge condemned over the failure to improve state school | :05:32. | :05:38. | |
access. They are under fire from state school inspectors because they | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
have not increased state school pupils studying in their colleges. I | :05:43. | :05:48. | |
feel I have read the story a few times! We seem to be in a | :05:49. | :05:54. | |
perpetual... Groundhog Day! This comes up every six months and I | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
wonder where it goes. We get very similar figures, we get very similar | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
statements and then it is parked for another six months. So I'm really | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
not quite sure where this is supposed to go. Having said that, I | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
think there is a case to be made that diverse class rooms and diverse | :06:15. | :06:21. | |
workplaces are better for the economy and there are lots of | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
reports and studies on that. They are better for business and for | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
productivity. Having said that, how do you convince people that they | :06:29. | :06:35. | |
should change? I'm not sure Oxbridge will happen because the government | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
pushes it? The figures are pretty damning. Between 2004 and 2013, | :06:40. | :06:48. | |
independent school pupils still make up two fifths of the intake as | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
Oxford and Cambridge. So we still in a society where if you go to a | :06:53. | :06:59. | |
private school, you are likely to go to Oxbridge. And if you are going to | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
Oxbridge, it makes a huge difference to what happens to the rest of your | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
life. Do you still think that having an Oxford or Cambridge degree makes | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
a marked difference to people even in 2015? I think so, because it | :07:12. | :07:16. | |
gives you that network. You will onto a club and we know, with jobs | :07:17. | :07:21. | |
and things like that, if I'm looking for somebody, I will think of | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
somebody I know. That is the way it works. It is not nepotism, but it is | :07:26. | :07:31. | |
the structure of the world that works anyway. It might be nepotism, | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
it might not be. It is problematic because we have our government to | :07:37. | :07:41. | |
look at. It does change your life to be from that exclusion Oxbridge | :07:42. | :07:48. | |
club. -- exclusive Oxbridge club. But there are more issues that come | :07:49. | :07:51. | |
in which a more problematic for Britain in the long-term. Where you | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
have something that keeps entrenching itself and we are not | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
taking full advantage of the population and the talent that | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
exist. But what you do to force colleges to change their intake? We | :08:06. | :08:11. | |
have to look at our entire education system because the gap between a | :08:12. | :08:14. | |
good private school Andy Goode state school, even a basic state school, | :08:15. | :08:21. | |
-- and a good state school, is huge. Is that down to money? We have not | :08:22. | :08:28. | |
thought about how our state system works. We need people who have come | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
from a not very good state school system and they have been deprived | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
from expressing themselves which is unfair. There is something noted in | :08:37. | :08:43. | |
the story where the Inspectorate welcomed Oxbridge use -- Oxford's | :08:44. | :08:50. | |
use of other methods. That'll be interesting where does take into | :08:51. | :08:57. | |
account the point that we don't necessarily, the cultural capital | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
which is quite elusive. The confidence, the language that is | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
used, that helps private schools students to get through doors. Maybe | :09:07. | :09:12. | |
that is the way forward, if it can be used to identify talent without | :09:13. | :09:17. | |
necessarily using that. Let's look at the Telegraph. | :09:18. | :09:23. | |
Cameron's climb-down on the benefits. It is buried about two | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
fifths of the way down in the story. David Cameron is having a dinner | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
this week on Thursday where he is probably going to say, I know I'm | :09:33. | :09:38. | |
not going to get my limit of four years on people coming from other | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
parts of the EU, that they have to wait four years to claim benefits. | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
But on the other hand in here, they are saying they are going to park it | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
and hope we get it further down the line. Quite confused... The story is | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
not very well written in that respect. You would have expected the | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
Telegraph to have written it more sharply. Essentially, over dinner, | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
he's going to say, you are not inclined to support me in the four | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
year barrier to getting benefits, therefore I am willing to give way | :10:14. | :10:20. | |
on that and... Not a lot of choice! Probably, if you think about it | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
after the meal, we could come back. That might take a long time. But | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
essentially, he is giving way. And what is interesting if having given | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
away on that, it comes back on him. How does he justify it if he says | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
you should vote to stay in the EU. That'll be interesting. I think this | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
is a nonstory. This was such an unlikely demand because it is linked | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
to a larger issue of free movement of people. It is the absolute | :10:51. | :10:57. | |
fundamental basis of the EU. So, then to say that we are not pushing | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
it because we didn't think it was likely but we might come back to it, | :11:02. | :11:08. | |
it feels as if we are trying to make it sound as if we are having a great | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
U-turn, but it would only be a U-turn if there was a lack -- if | :11:14. | :11:20. | |
there was a likelihood. Isn't he playing two games, telling them he | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
is willing to put it on one side and telling the British audience that he | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
hasn't given up. Don't worry, I'm still there fighting for you. He is | :11:29. | :11:34. | |
playing a double game. Shall we look at another story on | :11:35. | :11:41. | |
Jeremy Corbyn. Another 100,000 new members to oust Jeremy Corbyn. | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
Critics who are going to try to flood the party with members who | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
would vote out Jeremy Corbyn at some point. They have also admitted that | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
it will not happen until 2017. The good thing about the story is that | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
they are at least not mentioning the moderates. Until quite far into it | :11:59. | :12:05. | |
which I find quite a strange use of the term "Moderate". But I would | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
love to know where they are going to find these people and whether they | :12:11. | :12:17. | |
will be quite as involved in ousting Jeremy Corbyn. It seems there is an | :12:18. | :12:20. | |
internal conflict and on a popular ground... And watchable sees Labour | :12:21. | :12:28. | |
Party member standing at street corners of saying a don't you join | :12:29. | :12:34. | |
the member ship -- membership. Free membership! I've sadly offended I am | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
not be offered free never ship. But you might get the pen -- free | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
membership. But you might be a potential leader. | :12:46. | :12:51. | |
Can I push you in this direction. Roadworks banished, exclusive. This | :12:52. | :12:56. | |
is the political editor who was one of our paper reviewers. She is | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
reporting this as a victory for our crusade. They have been mounting | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
one, apparently, to stop roadworks in the run-up to Christmas. Do you | :13:07. | :13:12. | |
know about those? I had to come through roadworks to come here! So I | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
don't know, has it been managed in London or other parts? Typical | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
express, this is obviously the story we have all been waiting for! Of the | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
more important than the Christmas dinner. But it is interesting. | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
Before the Olympics, the talk was that all the roadworks would be done | :13:31. | :13:37. | |
and it would all be finished. But it is clear that we are in for a long | :13:38. | :13:41. | |
season, several years of roadworks. Obviously we need infrastructure, | :13:42. | :13:50. | |
infrastructure is old in London of cities -- in London and other | :13:51. | :13:59. | |
cities. It is a hope. Ree. This may be the moment to check your car out. | :14:00. | :14:06. | |
Maybe. They were also -- also told that we were going to limit the | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
distance that roadworks could go across. They were trying to stop the | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
hotspots. The other story on the express is | :14:14. | :14:23. | |
trump's campaign Trail. Mixing up a comparison between Donald Trump and | :14:24. | :14:28. | |
Hillary Clinton and how much they are spending on their campaign. I | :14:29. | :14:33. | |
found this story quite strange because there are some points which | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
are quite fair, that he has had 100,000 supporters who have given | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
him donations of ?40. But at the same time, we are still in the | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
run-up to who gets to be candidate so it is a very odd way of comparing | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
his spending to that of Clinton. Different parties. Hillary Clinton's | :14:55. | :15:00. | |
spending at this stage it is not really as what -- Trump is doing, | :15:01. | :15:10. | |
but to do with party dynamics. If we were comparing Jeb bush who has | :15:11. | :15:17. | |
spent 35 and in to date and is really trailing that would be a | :15:18. | :15:23. | |
story as to why that is happening. But to compare candidates for | :15:24. | :15:30. | |
different parties is odd. You could almost be forgiven for thinking we | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
were talking about the presidential race, not the nominations. But the | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
story is that because Donald Trump is making these statements, and is | :15:41. | :15:44. | |
getting these publicity, he does not need to throw money around. And it | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
is his own money. The others had to go out and get the money. Trump is | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
spending his own money and maybe he has thought that the more outrageous | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
statements he made, the more publicity he gets. When, the last | :15:58. | :16:06. | |
time any primary nomination, did the candidate's words affect the British | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
political scene is Mac even Boris Johnson made a comment on Donald | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
Trump. I can't remember an occasion when a London Mayor commented on | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
somebody who is hoping to get his party's nomination. There is quite a | :16:19. | :16:24. | |
lot to be said for that and the fact that the police commented on it. So | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
it is something, whether we like it or not, if he is running for | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
candidate of the Republican party, and in some ways there is a joke | :16:34. | :16:36. | |
that if the US president claims to be the free world -- leader of the | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
free world, the free world should have a vote on it, which I can back! | :16:43. | :16:49. | |
But at this stage is getting a large amount of publicity and his | :16:50. | :16:51. | |
statements are outrageous. I will still hold of to see what happens to | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
nominations. We are still far away. This does not mean he will crash and | :16:58. | :17:03. | |
burn. But running a presidential nomination, it is not enough to have | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
a lot of airtime, you need an enormous infrastructure. I am not | :17:09. | :17:11. | |
sure he will be able to put that together. But he is a long way ahead | :17:12. | :17:17. | |
in the polls? And to think that is getting 35% of the support, even | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
though it is the Republican party, not in the election, suggest that he | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
is holding in on a sense of dissatisfaction, a sense of anger | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
that there is in some of the American public. One hopes that it | :17:32. | :17:34. | |
does not extend much further than that, but there is a sense of anger | :17:35. | :17:41. | |
and adapt he can articulate it in this fashion -- and that he can | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
articulate it in this fashion. He has not burned out yet, but | :17:47. | :17:49. | |
everything he says makes him more popular. That is it for the papers | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
this hour. A bit longer than normal, which will please some! Sunny and | :17:55. | :18:01. | |
Minir, we will see you again at 1130 when we will see other stories | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
making the news. Your weather forecast comes | :18:06. | :18:06. |