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07/01/2016

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are Rowena Mason, the political correspondent

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at the Guardian and Ben Chu, the Economics Editor

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And we will start with the Financial Times. The turmoil on the global

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financial markets. And the Metro reports on the killing

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of Sian Blake and her children. And the Daily Express talks about house

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prices and the cold weather. And Whitehall signing of an official

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letter from the top medic questioning weather striking junior

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doctors would be available to help in the event of a Paris style terror

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attack. And the Daily Telegraph says that there are now he state alcohol

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guidelines. And The Guardian with that advice, no more than one pint

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per day for men. And Times talks about that Syrian town of macro

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three -- of Madaya, with people dying of starvation.

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And we will start with the markets turmoil. Global markets and fresh

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term I'll -- fresh turmoil. Big sell-offs in China, then followed by

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not quite as big but sizeable sell-offs in European and American

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markets. China, the equity market there, people think this is

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all-important, but not that important. What is important is the

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slowing of the Chinese economy affecting the rest of the world.

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People reading into what is happening in the financial markets

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as a proxy indicator for that. That is why people are getting upset and

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not help that the Chinese are making matters worse, but I think what they

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will do is put more of the state money into the markets tomorrow to

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try and prop it up. Which is what was done last summer when there was

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an equally big sell-off. Politically, we have had the

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Chancellor George Osborne saying that these sort of headwinds from

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China and other markets around the world, developing markets

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particularly, will cause ructions for the British economy, some

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suggesting cynically he is basically putting his excuses out there ahead

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of time or when he potentially does not meet his deficit reduction

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targets? Rob Lee al little of that, he said that is a dangerous cocktail

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of different factors that could be negative for the UK economy. --

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probably little of that. And warning in advance of anything going wrong,

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an insurance policy, so if things turn out all right he can claim

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credit and if it goes wrong you will say that it's not his fault, it is

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all these things happening abroad. And the factor of the opposition as

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well, the Conservatives have quite a lead in most opinion polls against

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Labour on economic matters. It helps them as the Chancellor to suggest

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that he is in the best party to deal with any difficult economic

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circumstances ahead. But the Chinese economy, you alluded to the problems

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that existed last summer, so we know the Chinese economy has gone through

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a bumpy patch but the Autumn Statement, on November the 5th,

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suggested everything would be rosy with the British economy, an extra

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?25 billion not used to offset the deficit, but used in various tax

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breaks? Yes, forecasts have unchanged, and George Osborne was

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not seeing the British economy will slow down but carry reasonably, this

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is sort of an if that is some kind of headwinds that has not been

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factored into the forecast that throws everything off kilter, that

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is what he is alluding to, but nothing in the economic data for the

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UK. There is slight slowdown but nothing that would cause anyone to

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say this has changed dramatically since last month or even last

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summer. And The Independent, revealing how Whitehall officials

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sexed up the case against junior doctors, we know they will

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potentially strike on Tuesday, the first of three stoppages they are

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planning. But an interesting take on the whole situation? Yes, and this

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will make the tense and Phoebe Ryle atmosphere over the we junior

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doctors feel they have been treated even worse. It appears that the

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director of NHS England was consulting with Jeremy Hunt about

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this letter he released in November, which was questioning whether junior

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doctors would be available if there was a strike on the day of Paris

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style terror attack. And it was shortly after the terror attack.

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That made junior doctors angry, questioning their professionalism

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and sense of duty. They said, of course, they would come in and help

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if that sort of thing happened during a strike, no one would be

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denied treatment. What I think we'll Ryle people up is this sense of

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Jeremy Hunt, our political figure, collaborating with an independent

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Whitehall figure, who is part of the medical establishment that should be

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neutral. The suggestion from the article is this letter was sexed up

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to suggest that junior doctors, because they were on strike, would

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not be able to cope or deal with potentially bothering coming in,

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some have argued, if there was a Paris style terror attacks. Yes, and

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offensive to doctors that if there was an emergency they would not

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help, going against the ethos of their profession. Interesting that

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he is supposed to be an independent figure, and the charge levelled

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against Professor Sir Bruce Keogh tonight, but he has not disowned

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what he has done, he has said, yes of course, representing NHS England,

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having a duty of care against patients. Why should they not

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consult about how to frame the issue of what is at stake if junior

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doctors do go on strike? It is an interesting debate. I'm not sure

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what side I come down on, I can see it from the junior doctors' point of

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view, but this senior civil servant has to put patients first, and maybe

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it is reasonable that he coordinated with the Health Secretary on this

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matter. Let's go to the Times, Ken Livingstone, Labour slaps down him

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for putting Nato status in doubt. A lot of toing and froing about the

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status of Labour's defence policy on the shadow ventures as to whether or

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not these should support the removal of Triton, supporting military

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action in Syria, I'm no controversy over Nato status as well. It was a

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sharp left controversy, because Khan Livingstone -- Ken Livingstone said

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this at lunchtime, talking about the defence review he is helping to

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cheer, and he said they would want to look at Nato, but he did not

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think it was that big a deal, because the cold War is over now.

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Something we would want to look at, Britain's membership of Nato, alarm

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bells, silence, white incendiary words! I think those alarm bells did

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go off in the Labour headquarters and it was a very short space of

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time and a statement came out which said that the defence review was not

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looking at Britain's membership of Nato, it has definitely been agreed

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in the top levels of the party that this is not a subject up for debate.

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But is there a lot of confusion on the part of some members of the

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public as to where Labour stands defence wise? The leader is

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committed pacifist, making that clear, but a member of the Stop the

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War Coalition, you have him voting against air strikes in Syria, and

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the Labour front bench team did vote for that, and he is not for the

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removal of Trident and yet the message loud and clear following

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what Ken Livingstone alluded to that they will maintain Britain's

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membership of Nato. Welcome to new politics. Contradiction is the name

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of the game. But they are struggling to get the policy. That is why Ken

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Livingstone was put on this committee about renewing Trident,

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and white Emily Thornberry is on it, because Jeremy Corbyn is trying to

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shift the party in the direction he wants to go. He does not want a war

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on two France, shutting down the Nato issue, and knows that getting

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of Trident is enough of a challenge. -- two fronts. It is old politics,

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he wants to help the party along. And to the Daily Telegraph, health

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chiefs... Sorry, going over to David Cameron on the brink of an EU

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benefit curve. He has been touring European capitals to drum up support

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about Britain's status within the European Union. It looks like he has

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been getting some good sounding? Yes, suggestions that within the EU

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they are proposing this back door ghetto option for them on migrant

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benefits, the major sticking point when it comes to him getting the

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negotiation deals, he wants to ban migrants from getting benefits for

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four years after first coming to the UK. The suggestion that he might,

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that that might also apply to Britain's when turning 18 until 22,

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that they might be given compensation for this in another

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way, a sort of special deal given to them by the Chancellor and allowed

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by the EU. Part of the deal, whatever he suggests, that could be

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the case for new migrants and has to be part of the deal that Britons are

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affected in the same way? Yes, and would be compensated in another way.

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What is being suggested anyway. And floated in this piece this means it

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could be done, the deal could be done quickly, maybe at the February

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council. We have a story in The Guardian that negotiations are not

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going as smoothly as he might have wanted, and it might slip into

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March, affecting the timetable for the Hall EU referendum and make slip

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further into the summer. What will his backbenchers think? I suspect

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they will not be convinced. But some real ironies in this, the first is

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young people have had it particularly hard over the past

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eight years and this compromise will hit them again. There could be some

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compensation for it but the principle is the will be

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discriminated against to get this deal. The second irony is no

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evidence that clamping down on migrant benefits will affect migrant

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flows. The presumption this is what is drying them in with no evidence.

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The people against the EU that think the real problem is people coming in

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and we need this deal to stop them, that is not supported by the facts,

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not achieving what everyone hopes it will. And if there is some slippage

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in terms of getting the deal that means the referendum itself... No

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date anyway but the consensus was it was beginning to form around June or

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July but seems to be later in the year, maybe September? Yes, some of

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their anti-EU campaigners have prepared for the referendum to be as

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soon as 170 days, which puts it in June. If Cameron cannot get a deal

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at the next EU summit, if it slips to March, it will take even longer

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for all the preparations to be done. And certain limits under electoral

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law that you have to have for the campaign. The summer holidays start,

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I think in Scotland starting even earlier, so if it gets beyond the

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point of March he will have to hold it in September. The political

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problem will be some people around the in camp are worried the migrant

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crisis could affect things. Finally, to Guardian. Do you like a tipple?

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Some white wine? Note The Guardian is seeing cutting drinking 21 pen

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per day is the best for men. -- cutting drinking to a pint a day.

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According to guidelines, no alcohol is safe, the first guideline in 20

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years, and none is safe and you should cut your limit from 21 units

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to about 14. The ceiling has been brought down. Nanny state is the

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accusation. Certainly the allegation from the Daily Telegraph. And the

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Institute for Economic Affairs. I think they have a point. As long as

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you drink modestly. But a hugely in the downward direction for the

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recommended limits. Nanny state for me. Angry you might have to go down

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to a pint a day to keep your liver in check? I could live with that.

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Help chiefs attacked over nanny state guide, but incumbent upon any

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society to protect citizens and offer advice that will keep them in

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one piece? They have obviously got good evidence and research behind

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this, but I think a lot of people will find it pretty alarming,

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probably why it is on the front of so many papers. It will be

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eye-catching, I'm just glad it came out after Christmas, when a lot of

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people are doing the right January and May be some incentive to carry

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on. -- dry January. Maybe that is why it came out this time of year.

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Thank you both very much. More to come on BBC News, but now it is

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Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday -

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I'm Mike Bushell. The suspended Uefa

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president, Michel Platini,

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