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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers


With me are Emily Ashton, who is chief political correspondent


at Buzzfeed, and Dan Bilefsky from the New York Times.


We began with the odds of Britain's staying in the EU, Ladbrokes have


slashed them today, saying it equates to a 71% chance that we will


stay. The Mirror thinks it is a gamble. At this time of unease, when


Europe is buffeted by migration crises, economic crises, I think


there is a feeling that pragmatic writs might be more apt to maintain


the status quo rather than doing something cataclysmic like leaving


the EU -- Brits. It could prove to revolution at this point in time.


How much will headlines like this in the Sun affect that decision? It is


quite a front page, and it is not the only front page to go with the


EU. We like that, the Express says you are joking. And honestly, dad 's


Army in the news. But yes, the Sun has long campaigned for a kind of


cut in immigration, which David Cameron a year or two ago said he


was up for. And obviously he made this pledge, didn't he, to get net


immigration down to the tens of thousands a year. It has stubbornly


remained a lot higher than that now he believes that this deal will get


immigration down. What it will do is actually limit benefits for EU


migrants. Experts say that that will not cut migration at all. So this is


the background. And this is in the great tradition of Sun covers, there


have been other moments in Britain's relations with Europe, and


the subliminal message of that, the arrows all pointing towards Britain


is that we are under an invasion and we just had the former Polish


Foreign Minister in here saying what would you do without us? What would


you do without the Poles? The Poles are a bit like the Mexicans in the


United States, without them, the entire service industry wouldn't


exist in this country. What would happen to the service industry? What


would happen to nurses? What would happen to drivers? What would happen


to the people you see smiling at you every day when you go on your lunch


break? How does this play, actually? Since we've got you, I know you have


bigger fish to fry with Iowa and New Hampshire, but that this resonate


with people in the United States? The issues Britain is pondering


over? Again, people are slightly distracted by other things in the


United States but it is fair to say that Washington would like Britain


in the European Union. There is a perception that if Britain is in the


EU, then the EU is a trans- Atlantic partner, at a time when there is


migration are people, people want pragmatic writs in the European


Union. There is a feeling that they are closer to the United States in


terms of attitudes to free markets, geopolitics, the trans- Atlantic


relationship -- Brits. So Obama and the United States would like written


in the European Union. It is a common theme. We have heard this


from the Swedes, the Danes, the Dutch, and if we weren't there then


Europe would be the poorer for it. And you can actually see that


although there are EU leaders nervous about what David Cameron


wants, especially on migration, they all really want written to stay in.


Britain is pretty crucial to the future of the European Union.


Certainly campaigners have been bending over backwards to make sure


that David Cameron stays in and what annoys the leave campaign is that


they think David Cameron has wanted to stay from the very beginning. In


public he says it is all about what we get from this deal. No one but


him believe that. It is happening at a time when there is a simmering


backlash against migration all across Europe. You have Denmark


passing policies in order to keep migrants away, seizing their


valuables. You have Finland introducing Draconian measures. What


Cameron is doing resonate quite strongly in many European capitals,


which is why I think the head of the European Council has come up with a


proposal that he believes other member states will accept. You were


saying a little earlier that... It is, you have to say it, a pale


imitation of what was promised real four month ago. And that is really


summed up by the front page of the Daily Mail. They are calling it the


great Delusion. It is not a huge surprise, the Daily Mail front page,


the deal does fall short of what David Cameron promised but his


pledges on the EU have been watered down over the last couple of years.


Let's talk about specifics here. We are talking about a four year ban on


in work benefits and now we are talking about a graduated... We are


talking about an emergency brake. And when he pulls the break, what


are the details? Are there gaps in it? It is a long way short of what


he was promising. And even if you go back to... That was in the


manifesto, this four year benefits banned. We were talking about how he


mentioned cuts to immigration altogether. Angela Merkel a couple


of years ago put paid to that. He was also talking about adjusting the


agricultural policy and he wanted treaty change this time last year,


and obviously this isn't happening at all. I think what is in this


compromised deal, if it becomes a deal, it doesn't really matter to


the average Briton unless they suffer from insomnia and want to


read the fine print. What matters is that the Prime Minister has decided


to support the yes camp and made it very clear. I think that makes it a


seminal moment. It is a key point, because actually if you didn't want


to look through the fine print, best of luck. The legalese in there. How


many times would you have to read it? Is there a danger that there is


in the right kind of information for people to make an informed decision?


And that is exactly what they are banking on. That is why they want an


early referendum, to avoid too much scrutiny of this. It is quite


cynical in the right kind of information for people to make an


informed decision? And that is exactly what they are banking on.


That is why they want an early referendum, to avoid too much


scrutiny of this. It is quite cynical pretty early so people don't


look too far into it. On the point is that the Tories know that...


David Cameron knows that and if it changes will actually win over a lot


of voters -- benefit changes. We were just saying to the former


Polish Foreign Minister that benefits have little to do with it.


The minimum wage here is far greater than the minimum wage in Poland.


Referendums are often difficult to win, and if you look at the history


of the European Union in this country in particular, when Britain


voted no and the French voted by a very small margin to the European


Constitution, the Irish voted no, and at a time when the economy is


not particularly strong, you have a migration crisis, people are feeling


insecure, they may raise the middle finger to the European Union is some


sort of protest vote. Not to draw too wide an analogy but when you


look at what is happening in the US election, people are feeling restive


and rebelling against the establishment. One would argue that


the climate for no vote has seldom been stronger. The summer months


will be crucial. If you were a gambling man, you would have to look


at the odds and think, well, is it worth defying the Prime Minister on


Europe? Many ministers, especially those key ministers like Torres,


Michael Gove, and the business Secretary, who are wondering whether


the campaign for the out camp -- Boris. There are many Eurosceptic


ministers and we know there are, but they haven't shown their hand apart


from Crisp Grayling. -- Chris Grayling. And today, David Cameron


was given a bit of a boost by Theresa May, who has said it is a


deal worth looking at, all we have the basis of a deal, which is


great. That is exactly what David Cameron needed. Go is probably not


going to jump either but they know it is a losing side at this point --


Gove. I don't know if you are plugged into this but it is no


secret that the out camp would very much like a Michael Gove figure or a


Boris figure to lead them on. Well, Boris Johnson over many years has


been very charismatic. It doesn't surprise me at all. It seems to me


that he might go behind the yes side but it seems the no side is somewhat


divided and polarised and lacking a big figure to give it some momentum,


whereas on the yes vote, you have the Prime Minister, you have


captains of industry, it seems the winds are flying more towards the


yes side. Is the Guardian says, Cameron wins Theresa May's backing


over Europe. She is a known Eurosceptic. It is a great win for


him. He will be thrilled with the statement which dropped late today,


it is in a lot of the front pages and it really secures his hand.


Especially among the Tory grassroots. Many of them are pro-


Theresa May. She made a hardline speech to the conference about


migration and they won't quite sure which way she would go. And that our


political editor were saying a little earlier, there is this rather


strange period now, isn't there, over the next two weeks where they


sort of know the detail but they are not allowed to speak about it. The


likes of risk Grayling, sitting on his hands. They are not allowed to


come out and -- come out until the deal is actually done -- Chris


Grayling. Let's just turn to the elections in Iowa. The dramatic day


yesterday. The shock of the new normal jolts the US election. I


think the Guardian is referring to this new politics in the US


primaries where people cleave to either the far left, characters like


Bernie Sanders, ageing hippies who rail against globalisation or people


on the far right like Donald Trump or the winner, Ted Cruz, a very


strong, young Conservative evangelical fire and brimstone


Conservative. People are fed up with the establishment and these


candidates are benefiting as a result. Just talk to me about Bernie


Sanders. He is an interesting character. He is known as Democratic


Socialist. I thought socialism in America was a word you didn't


mention. It is, and that is what is interesting about Bernie Sanders. He


is such a left-wing candidate, such a raging hippie that you don't


expect to see someone like that in the US landscape. Here's something


like Jeremy Corbyn, although he would be far right of Jeremy Corbyn,


ironically, in a British context. By railing against globalisation,


presenting Hillary Clinton as an establishment candidate, as an


example of legacy and dynastic politics. He is resonating with


young people. Young people like Bernie Sanders, young people also


like Jeremy Corbyn. What is the appeal of these ageing lefties for


the younger generation? We have a reporter campaigning for Bernie


Sanders who voted for Jeremy Corbyn last summer. There is such a


parallel there. What do you make of the Republican side of the race? We


talk so much in Britain about Donald Trump, and he goes and losers! I


know, only by a little bit, but... One should say that Iowa is a small


state and although it is an interesting early snapshot, there


are many states to go. For my point of view the surprise winner is Marco


Rubio, became a strong third and showed that the Republican


establishment can rally behind him. The funding establishment can rally


behind him and if we end up with a Marco Rubio Hillary Clinton race,


that would be very interesting. They have been trailing up until now, but


have shown their viability. Trump has had a setback but is doing very


well in the polls going ahead towards New Hampshire. There is a


question whether this circus performer act will translate for the


electorate. He appeals to angry working-class men and women, and he


has tapped brilliantly into this kind of politics of anger at when


that goes before the entire electorate, there is a question


whether it people will see him as the next president of the United


States. You have these big, sweeping freeways in the US. Do you have


white lines on? Because The Times Says that in Britain it is the end


of the road for white lines on highways. Really? Yes, markings are


being erased from busy roads across the country in an attempt to slow


motorists down. Apparently blank roads introduced this sense of


uncertainty, so... We don't know where we are in the road. Motor


astride a bit more cautiously. I went to Lebanon and Jordan recently,


to look at the Syrian refugee crisis, and I noticed that they do


have lanes, but people don't drive cautiously -- motorists drive a bit


more cautiously. A simple pot of paint can save lives, in particular


highly visible markings at the edge and centre of the road which can be


seen at night are enormously cost-effective, so to get rid of


them, surely there will be more deaths on the road? As a cyclist,


this sounds quite frightening to me. We will pass on that one. Anxious


and unhappy says the Express. They must be middle-aged. If you are aged


between 14 and 59 you are struggling to cope with caring for elderly


parents and raising a family -- 40 and 59. If we were on that game show


where you had to name what is troubling you, mortgages and debt. I


can see how we do hear these things in Parliament about women in


particular who are trapped between caring for children and for elderly


relatives at the same time. So I can see how that bracket is affected. No


surprise, Dan, that those aged 65 to 74 are deemed to be the happiest,


because they have big pensions. Big pensions, their children are out of


the house, they can enjoy their retirements. So I guess that is


understandable. There is a problem in this country with people older


than that who are alone and suffering without much human


contact. Yes, I guess it is just those who have the money who can


afford to be happy. But anyway, those of us who are middle-aged will


plod on. Thank you very much for joining us this evening.


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