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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are the political commentator, Jo Phillips

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and the Political Editor of the Sunday People,

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Good evening to you both. Let's have a look at some of the front pages

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before we discuss them in detail. According to the Sunday Times,

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the boss of EasyJet has warned that cheap flights are at risk if the UK

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leaves the European Union. Ahead of the EU referendum the Mail

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on Sunday says a senior aide to Angela Merkel claims the UK 'can

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not survive on its own'. 'Public faith in Cameron drops'

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is the Independent on Sunday's headline, with a new poll claiming 6

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out of 10 expect the PM not to secure good deal

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in Brussels talks this week. The Telegraph claims the government

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could soon fund new onshore wind So let's start with -- let's start

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with the EU and we start with the Independent. The headlines, public

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faith in Cameron has dropped and nearly half of voters say the UK

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would have more control of its borders outside the EU. What do read

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into that? I think we are not really surprised. Is that where we are at?

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I am not surprised this is showing that David Cameron's personal

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ratings have slumped because as yet he hasn't come back with the deal

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and still has to get that. We won't know what that dealers until after

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the referendum. We won't know how it will work or what will happen? We

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will, the whole point about this week coming up is when he goes to

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Brussels on Thursday, if all goes well, by Friday he will be saying to

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us how the so-called emergency works on Mike and benefits, that should be

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clear, he should have the whole thing ticked off and a few goes

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really well he didn't come out on Friday afternoon, hold a press

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conference and see referendum June 23, that if it goes well and the

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confidence isn't clear. But they haven't asked people. It's an

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interesting Paul because they haven't asked people, if you bought

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it today or tomorrow would you call in or out which is what the question

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will be referendum. I think this is mirroring exactly what happened in

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the Scottish referendum, where if you remember, every single day,

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there was somebody saying this is what will happen if you come out or

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stay in, and that will carry on ad infinitum. Do you think that will

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change when the referendum is announced, and then there will be an

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in and out campaign with more messages coming across? Yes, and

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they need to get their messages, as we shall see as we go through the

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papers. But people are not galvanised about the whole issue and

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there is one fascinating figure buried away Best Paul Wycherley

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cheered by the Sunday Mirror which is why I got involved, but buried

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away as a figure people were asked, do they think they are personally

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better off in or out of Europe? 45% don't know why that sums up the real

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problem that is going on the public. It is an ease that Eric wrote

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happening that seems to be going way above everyone's heads and doesn't

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impinge on their ordinary lives. -- esoteric. We have to go back to

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basics and then maybe it will take off. You are saying these are

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uninformed answers? They are answering questions like what they

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think of the political parties, Tories up 14% over Labour. They are

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answering things like do they have faith in Cameron to bring back a

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deal. That is fine but they are also saying, what are the issues and we

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want to get down to how it affects us, and frankly we do not know. You

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have your British economy being better off, 36% saying it would be

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better off if we left. The problem is that the debate has been so

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dominated by the refugee and migrant crisis that it is very difficult to

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get back to the economics. That will be the argument is, that actually in

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the end, the state campaign will say it is far better for Britain's

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business and jobs and prosperity and sustainability to stay in, but

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unfortunately it is now getting sort of tied up and will carry on doing

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so. And I suppose the problem for both camps is getting people to vote

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for the good of the country or of the EU? Nobody ever votes for the

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good of the country! They will vote for what works for them. So the

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important thing, and many will illustrate this point, the point of

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it is that people must know how it personally affects them, and at the

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moment they don't, and the campaign is going at a higher level because

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saying it is doing this to business or that to migration. They have to

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narrow it down to the individual. We will get to the express any moment.

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We will get to that in a moment. I want to do the Daily Mail. Germans,

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you can't survive without us! They are not quoting Angela Merkel, but

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describing a diplomat joke. There are three pages of this and as much

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as I love Simon Walters... The political editor and fellow West Ham

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supporter. I think this is the biggest load of twaddle I have read

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in a paper and frankly it is based on two MPs, Bill Cash, the veteran

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Eurosceptic MP, and a prominent German MP having a bat. This is

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based on nothing other than an interview with Bill Cash who says

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exactly what you'd expect him to say. This controversial MP is the

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head of the nation's key Euro group. There is nothing in this story! This

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is the pages on somebody's opinion. As stories call, it doesn't really

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add up to a hill of beans. The is one that I find interesting which is

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what the argument seems to be about, whether or not Britain would face

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trade tariffss if we pulled out of Europe. Then you have something

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which is an important issue, I don't think it would just happen because

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we got out, but you can imagine a situation whereby another economic

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crisis, the EU may well start putting up trade barriers and we

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would be in trouble. Issue is like that are important but this is a

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spat between two MPs, both of whom are not the most exciting on earth!

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As one of our colleagues pointed out, let's just step back and

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remember where they stood during the Second World War on Germany. This is

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indicative of what we are going to see every single day in the weeks

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running up to the referendum, because it will be skier stories and

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it'll be pandering to the worst jingoism and xenophobic,

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anti-German, anti-French staff. The paper as well, I don't know what

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your papers will say but the Daily Mail and the express, you know where

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they will start. The papers we do have have a serious responsibility

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and it is not being carried out very well and tonight's papers. They

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should be informing and it is really important that people know the

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issues, the migration issue is fairly straightforward, stay in

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Europe, and migrants will come into the country and leave Europe and we

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can control our borders. The full referendum doesn't depend on what

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the papers will say, they will watch television as well... It is

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something the media and certainly the campaigns should think about. At

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the moment they are talking about tiny little less use if everybody

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knows the rest, and what you really need to do is go right back to

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basics and say this is exactly how it works. And that is what you have

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told your editor? You think we can get everybody to do balanced

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reporting in the papers, on television... Don't expect balance

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but I think it is important we try as best we can to explain exactly

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what it means to you and me and ordered many people. We have massive

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responsibility. One of the differences is the votes all code is

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equal. If you are in a general election would only marginal

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constituencies have high-value votes, here, everyone has the same

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power with their vote. Let's go this place balanced piece on the front

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page. The EU declaring war on drivers. It is probably true, why

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would you say that is not responsible reporting? To be fair,

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we have only got the first page so we cannot read the rest, but it is

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just another skier story. This is what gets people won't up? I do

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think historically, the pro-Europeans said, the European

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Commission and those of us who think it is a good idea have been

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incredibly bad at putting the argument because people will come

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out with these urban myths about cucumbers having to be a certain

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straightness, fishermen having to wear helmets and motorists having to

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pay to drive into town centres because of EU guidelines. Actually,

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they are EU guidelines we have signed up to about climate change

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and global warming and it is about the contents of things, and I do

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think this stuff, it just goes on to that sort of Little Britain

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mentality. It is not sensible and it is not a good debate and as Nigel

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said there is a responsibility and as so often happens it will fall to

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broadcasters who always do a better job because of the much stricter

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rules on impartiality. Let's move on to the Sunday Times and another EU

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story and another warning. Brexit danger to UK tourists. The

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Sunday Times would seem to want Britain in and they story is based

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on a couple of tour operators and what they are saying is that you

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will lose your cheap flights, I can't quite see how this works

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through, and the other is that planes will not be as safe, we won't

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be as well protected against terrorism and the argument seems to

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be because we shared intelligence with Europe. This story is in the

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same category as others from the other site, but the chances of

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leading Europe and not sharing intelligence with European partners

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just seems an absolute nonsense. We all have an interest in that

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regardless of anything. So again we have come out with leaping on a

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small debt and making a skier out of it. You call it a skier story but

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when you lead on, the Times goes on to explain where this is coming from

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and it is about airport charges and surcharges that EU member countries

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don't have to pay as much on. It is going to possibly cost us more. It's

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not going to cost very much but do we think it is hugely important? It

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might be very important! It is important and that comes back to

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what you were saying earlier that people will vote for what matters to

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them. If it matters to you that you can get cheap flights and to you

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that you think that in our lifetime... I'm very impartial! If

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all three of us are now able to fly for the relatively reasonable amount

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of money to places that were behind the Iron Curtain when we won a lot

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younger. We have got months to talk about that, let's move on. Can I

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just say that had within this is Michael Dobbs, couldn't possibly

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comment, he has dismissed David Cameron's renegotiation as the most

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that barely squeaks, let alone roars. Glad you got that end. Let's

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move on to the Telegraph. This sounds fantastic if true, coming

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soon, the ten minute home saliva test for cancer. You have to be

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careful with cancer stories. This is certainly interesting and our paper

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put it on the front page tonight because it is a fascinating story.

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Broadly they seem to have developed a live test then America and it

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means you don't have to go through the pain of biopsy. If the test

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works and it will cost 1520 you can get it done in ten minutes and at

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the moment it is for lung cancer but could be for other cancers as well.

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Basically it detects the cancer DNA you might have. You have to do it

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yourself at home? You can go to a dentist or a doctor and might even

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be a will to get to the chemist. It could be quite scary to do it on

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your own. This is about cancer spread. It is for monitoring cancer.

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The actual test will see if you have got it without the need for a

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biopsy. That is the important thing, biopsies are terribly painful. They

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do hope and things to come it could be possible to detect multiple

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cancers at the same time. Let's quickly get a noise reducing gadget

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for bills. This is Saint Mary East Church in Ashwell where the bells

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rang every quarter well as well is only our and complaints from some

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villagers suspected to be newcomers, and I would imagine it is probably

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true, the bells were stifled only on the hour, but now a gadget has been

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introduced three years later, so the bells will carry on ringing but not

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be quite so noisy. We had a more gadget on bells near where I left,

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and then somebody bought a cockerel! It is quite noisy in the country! We

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will do this again at 11:30pm but for now, stay with us, coming up,

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the reporters.

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