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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
With me are the political commentator, Jo Phillips | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
and the Political Editor of the Sunday People, | :00:21. | :00:22. | |
Good evening to you both. Let's have a look at some of the front pages | :00:23. | :00:34. | |
before we discuss them in detail. According to the Sunday Times, | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
the boss of EasyJet has warned that cheap flights are at risk if the UK | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
leaves the European Union. Ahead of the EU referendum the Mail | :00:40. | :00:42. | |
on Sunday says a senior aide to Angela Merkel claims the UK 'can | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
not survive on its own'. 'Public faith in Cameron drops' | :00:46. | :00:49. | |
is the Independent on Sunday's headline, with a new poll claiming 6 | :00:50. | :00:51. | |
out of 10 expect the PM not to secure good deal | :00:52. | :00:55. | |
in Brussels talks this week. The Telegraph claims the government | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
could soon fund new onshore wind So let's start with -- let's start | :00:58. | :01:25. | |
with the EU and we start with the Independent. The headlines, public | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
faith in Cameron has dropped and nearly half of voters say the UK | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
would have more control of its borders outside the EU. What do read | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
into that? I think we are not really surprised. Is that where we are at? | :01:40. | :01:50. | |
I am not surprised this is showing that David Cameron's personal | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
ratings have slumped because as yet he hasn't come back with the deal | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
and still has to get that. We won't know what that dealers until after | :01:59. | :02:05. | |
the referendum. We won't know how it will work or what will happen? We | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
will, the whole point about this week coming up is when he goes to | :02:11. | :02:16. | |
Brussels on Thursday, if all goes well, by Friday he will be saying to | :02:17. | :02:23. | |
us how the so-called emergency works on Mike and benefits, that should be | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
clear, he should have the whole thing ticked off and a few goes | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
really well he didn't come out on Friday afternoon, hold a press | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
conference and see referendum June 23, that if it goes well and the | :02:38. | :02:43. | |
confidence isn't clear. But they haven't asked people. It's an | :02:44. | :02:46. | |
interesting Paul because they haven't asked people, if you bought | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
it today or tomorrow would you call in or out which is what the question | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
will be referendum. I think this is mirroring exactly what happened in | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
the Scottish referendum, where if you remember, every single day, | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
there was somebody saying this is what will happen if you come out or | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
stay in, and that will carry on ad infinitum. Do you think that will | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
change when the referendum is announced, and then there will be an | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
in and out campaign with more messages coming across? Yes, and | :03:19. | :03:24. | |
they need to get their messages, as we shall see as we go through the | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
papers. But people are not galvanised about the whole issue and | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
there is one fascinating figure buried away Best Paul Wycherley | :03:34. | :03:36. | |
cheered by the Sunday Mirror which is why I got involved, but buried | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
away as a figure people were asked, do they think they are personally | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
better off in or out of Europe? 45% don't know why that sums up the real | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
problem that is going on the public. It is an ease that Eric wrote | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
happening that seems to be going way above everyone's heads and doesn't | :03:56. | :04:04. | |
impinge on their ordinary lives. -- esoteric. We have to go back to | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
basics and then maybe it will take off. You are saying these are | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
uninformed answers? They are answering questions like what they | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
think of the political parties, Tories up 14% over Labour. They are | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
answering things like do they have faith in Cameron to bring back a | :04:23. | :04:28. | |
deal. That is fine but they are also saying, what are the issues and we | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
want to get down to how it affects us, and frankly we do not know. You | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
have your British economy being better off, 36% saying it would be | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
better off if we left. The problem is that the debate has been so | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
dominated by the refugee and migrant crisis that it is very difficult to | :04:48. | :04:54. | |
get back to the economics. That will be the argument is, that actually in | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
the end, the state campaign will say it is far better for Britain's | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
business and jobs and prosperity and sustainability to stay in, but | :05:07. | :05:09. | |
unfortunately it is now getting sort of tied up and will carry on doing | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
so. And I suppose the problem for both camps is getting people to vote | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
for the good of the country or of the EU? Nobody ever votes for the | :05:18. | :05:23. | |
good of the country! They will vote for what works for them. So the | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
important thing, and many will illustrate this point, the point of | :05:28. | :05:33. | |
it is that people must know how it personally affects them, and at the | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
moment they don't, and the campaign is going at a higher level because | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
saying it is doing this to business or that to migration. They have to | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
narrow it down to the individual. We will get to the express any moment. | :05:47. | :05:53. | |
We will get to that in a moment. I want to do the Daily Mail. Germans, | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
you can't survive without us! They are not quoting Angela Merkel, but | :05:58. | :06:06. | |
describing a diplomat joke. There are three pages of this and as much | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
as I love Simon Walters... The political editor and fellow West Ham | :06:12. | :06:17. | |
supporter. I think this is the biggest load of twaddle I have read | :06:18. | :06:20. | |
in a paper and frankly it is based on two MPs, Bill Cash, the veteran | :06:21. | :06:28. | |
Eurosceptic MP, and a prominent German MP having a bat. This is | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
based on nothing other than an interview with Bill Cash who says | :06:33. | :06:35. | |
exactly what you'd expect him to say. This controversial MP is the | :06:36. | :06:45. | |
head of the nation's key Euro group. There is nothing in this story! This | :06:46. | :06:53. | |
is the pages on somebody's opinion. As stories call, it doesn't really | :06:54. | :06:58. | |
add up to a hill of beans. The is one that I find interesting which is | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
what the argument seems to be about, whether or not Britain would face | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
trade tariffss if we pulled out of Europe. Then you have something | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
which is an important issue, I don't think it would just happen because | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
we got out, but you can imagine a situation whereby another economic | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
crisis, the EU may well start putting up trade barriers and we | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
would be in trouble. Issue is like that are important but this is a | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
spat between two MPs, both of whom are not the most exciting on earth! | :07:31. | :07:37. | |
As one of our colleagues pointed out, let's just step back and | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
remember where they stood during the Second World War on Germany. This is | :07:43. | :07:49. | |
indicative of what we are going to see every single day in the weeks | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
running up to the referendum, because it will be skier stories and | :07:54. | :08:01. | |
it'll be pandering to the worst jingoism and xenophobic, | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
anti-German, anti-French staff. The paper as well, I don't know what | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
your papers will say but the Daily Mail and the express, you know where | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
they will start. The papers we do have have a serious responsibility | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
and it is not being carried out very well and tonight's papers. They | :08:18. | :08:23. | |
should be informing and it is really important that people know the | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
issues, the migration issue is fairly straightforward, stay in | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
Europe, and migrants will come into the country and leave Europe and we | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
can control our borders. The full referendum doesn't depend on what | :08:37. | :08:39. | |
the papers will say, they will watch television as well... It is | :08:40. | :08:45. | |
something the media and certainly the campaigns should think about. At | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
the moment they are talking about tiny little less use if everybody | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
knows the rest, and what you really need to do is go right back to | :08:54. | :08:57. | |
basics and say this is exactly how it works. And that is what you have | :08:58. | :08:59. | |
told your editor? You think we can get everybody to do balanced | :09:00. | :09:22. | |
reporting in the papers, on television... Don't expect balance | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
but I think it is important we try as best we can to explain exactly | :09:26. | :09:28. | |
what it means to you and me and ordered many people. We have massive | :09:29. | :09:30. | |
responsibility. One of the differences is the votes all code is | :09:31. | :09:32. | |
equal. If you are in a general election would only marginal | :09:33. | :09:34. | |
constituencies have high-value votes, here, everyone has the same | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
power with their vote. Let's go this place balanced piece on the front | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
page. The EU declaring war on drivers. It is probably true, why | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
would you say that is not responsible reporting? To be fair, | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
we have only got the first page so we cannot read the rest, but it is | :09:53. | :10:00. | |
just another skier story. This is what gets people won't up? I do | :10:01. | :10:06. | |
think historically, the pro-Europeans said, the European | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
Commission and those of us who think it is a good idea have been | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
incredibly bad at putting the argument because people will come | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
out with these urban myths about cucumbers having to be a certain | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
straightness, fishermen having to wear helmets and motorists having to | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
pay to drive into town centres because of EU guidelines. Actually, | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
they are EU guidelines we have signed up to about climate change | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
and global warming and it is about the contents of things, and I do | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
think this stuff, it just goes on to that sort of Little Britain | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
mentality. It is not sensible and it is not a good debate and as Nigel | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
said there is a responsibility and as so often happens it will fall to | :10:52. | :10:56. | |
broadcasters who always do a better job because of the much stricter | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
rules on impartiality. Let's move on to the Sunday Times and another EU | :11:02. | :11:03. | |
story and another warning. Brexit danger to UK tourists. The | :11:04. | :11:19. | |
Sunday Times would seem to want Britain in and they story is based | :11:20. | :11:25. | |
on a couple of tour operators and what they are saying is that you | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
will lose your cheap flights, I can't quite see how this works | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
through, and the other is that planes will not be as safe, we won't | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
be as well protected against terrorism and the argument seems to | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
be because we shared intelligence with Europe. This story is in the | :11:41. | :11:47. | |
same category as others from the other site, but the chances of | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
leading Europe and not sharing intelligence with European partners | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
just seems an absolute nonsense. We all have an interest in that | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
regardless of anything. So again we have come out with leaping on a | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
small debt and making a skier out of it. You call it a skier story but | :12:06. | :12:12. | |
when you lead on, the Times goes on to explain where this is coming from | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
and it is about airport charges and surcharges that EU member countries | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
don't have to pay as much on. It is going to possibly cost us more. It's | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
not going to cost very much but do we think it is hugely important? It | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
might be very important! It is important and that comes back to | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
what you were saying earlier that people will vote for what matters to | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
them. If it matters to you that you can get cheap flights and to you | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
that you think that in our lifetime... I'm very impartial! If | :12:45. | :12:56. | |
all three of us are now able to fly for the relatively reasonable amount | :12:57. | :12:59. | |
of money to places that were behind the Iron Curtain when we won a lot | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
younger. We have got months to talk about that, let's move on. Can I | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
just say that had within this is Michael Dobbs, couldn't possibly | :13:09. | :13:16. | |
comment, he has dismissed David Cameron's renegotiation as the most | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
that barely squeaks, let alone roars. Glad you got that end. Let's | :13:21. | :13:26. | |
move on to the Telegraph. This sounds fantastic if true, coming | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
soon, the ten minute home saliva test for cancer. You have to be | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
careful with cancer stories. This is certainly interesting and our paper | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
put it on the front page tonight because it is a fascinating story. | :13:41. | :13:43. | |
Broadly they seem to have developed a live test then America and it | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
means you don't have to go through the pain of biopsy. If the test | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
works and it will cost 1520 you can get it done in ten minutes and at | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
the moment it is for lung cancer but could be for other cancers as well. | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
Basically it detects the cancer DNA you might have. You have to do it | :14:05. | :14:10. | |
yourself at home? You can go to a dentist or a doctor and might even | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
be a will to get to the chemist. It could be quite scary to do it on | :14:15. | :14:17. | |
your own. This is about cancer spread. It is for monitoring cancer. | :14:18. | :14:24. | |
The actual test will see if you have got it without the need for a | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
biopsy. That is the important thing, biopsies are terribly painful. They | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
do hope and things to come it could be possible to detect multiple | :14:36. | :14:42. | |
cancers at the same time. Let's quickly get a noise reducing gadget | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
for bills. This is Saint Mary East Church in Ashwell where the bells | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
rang every quarter well as well is only our and complaints from some | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
villagers suspected to be newcomers, and I would imagine it is probably | :14:58. | :15:03. | |
true, the bells were stifled only on the hour, but now a gadget has been | :15:04. | :15:08. | |
introduced three years later, so the bells will carry on ringing but not | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
be quite so noisy. We had a more gadget on bells near where I left, | :15:14. | :15:20. | |
and then somebody bought a cockerel! It is quite noisy in the country! We | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
will do this again at 11:30pm but for now, stay with us, coming up, | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
the reporters. | :15:31. | :15:41. |