21/02/2016 The Papers


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In a few minutes, we'll be taking a look at tomorrow's


papers with our guests James Cusick, a Political Correspondent


for the Independent and the broadcaster,


Many of the front pages are already in.


The FT is leading with the story of the day, but taking a different


tact to most - leading with the line - Big business backs Cameron's push


The Metro's headline says Boris backs Brexit, while bookies slash


The Express is also highlighting the London Mayor's claim


The mayor is also pictured on tomorrow's front page


The Guardian runs with the claim from Mr Johnson that his decision


to vote to leave the EU isn't fuelled by his political ambition.


The Times shows Mr Johnson surrounded by the media


on his London doorstep during his statement this afternoon.


It also features the public push for a meningitis vaccine to


Let's get down to it. Only one story in town, Lynn? Only one story. It is


all borders. Some of them you can see Boris Johnson looking perplexed


and worried and others, like the Daily Telegraph, he looks


presidential. This is a Prime Minister and waiting picture. And it


is basically he announced today, although he has been hinting at it


apparently yesterday, that he is going to support they get out of


Europe campaign. And so Boris Johnson has now become Bo Go from Bo


Jo. And this is described as a once-in-a-lifetime chance for


change. And another paragraph says all of history shows that they will


only listen if he says no. His mind is made up, he apparently dumped


David Cameron by text message at 4.40 this afternoon, then stood on


his doorstep a few minutes later and announced to the world, a bit


discourteous, but basically his mind is made up, we have to get out, but


he is saying he is not anti-European, that he loves being


European and Europe for culture but what we have is creeping federalism


and legal colonisation and that is what he is against. James, he talks


about the European Union being an democratic, that seemed to underpin


part of his decision that he has reached today?


That is one of the kinder words that he used. There is a 2000 word essay


inside the Daily Telegraph, in which he goes through everything from


expansion, unstoppable legal colonisation, a slow and invisible


process, strong stuff for somebody who says he has been struggling to


make up his mind on this. He appears to have worked this out quite a


while ago. The key point of the Telegraph front page and


presentation is how important he is to this project. Without this, what


would the front pages look like today? Where is the leader? I know


that Michael Gove is out there, a leading intellectual figure inside


the Conservative Party, but they were hoping for Boris and they have


got him. But the idea that he can merely say this and then somehow go


to the sidelines and not bleed, that might happen for a couple of months.


But near the end, in the middle of June, when it gets a bit tight? He


says he is not going to get out there and campaign with George


Galloway and Nigel Farage. Well, certainly not going to do that. He


quotes Churchill as saying that Churchill was interested in Europe


and associated with it, but not absorbed. That is what he's saying


he wants to be, to still have some kind of influence in but not be in


it. Let's go to the front page of the Guardian. Johnson comes out for


Brexit. Is this a win- win for him, in the sense that if Britain decides


to come out in June, he will have been on the right side of history,


David Cameron actually has to step down, therefore he is in pole


position? He could run for the leadership. If Britain decides not


to leave the European Union, he has assured of support with


backbenchers? I think what you are describing is a political


calculation. Sounds about right! And he has done. He will have worked out


the position. In all political decisions, there is an element of


risk. He is putting himself in a position whereby if Britain actually


votes to remain in the European Union, I think the Guardian, the


Telegraph and most of them, they actually point out fairly strong


open division, almost conflict between himself and David Cameron.


My problem, and the problem for those people who make themselves


prominent in this campaign is, what happens to them? Do we just assume


that the Conservative Cabinet still go back the day after and everything


is jolly? It will not like that. I am slightly concerned, this is day


one of 120 days, or whatever it is. I think it will be very difficult


and I think it could get quite a brutal. It already is, he is damning


David Cameron with faint praise by saying you did a great job over in


Europe, but, actually, in the time that is available to you, but you


haven't brought anything back. There is an interesting side panel down


the side of the Guardian front page. This is a decent poll. It is


basically saying, out of 70 constituency parties that he


contacted, only two reported party members in favour of remaining. If


you like, it is exactly what you said earlier. He has positioned


himself as representing the voice of the Conservative Party at grassroots


level. I think that is important. He's made an intellectual decision.


I don't doubt for a second that what is in this long, 2000 word article


is heartfelt, I don't think it is xenophobic at all, I think he


genuinely believes the European project is something that has value,


the interesting thing about what he says is that if we leave, it will


force the Europeans to change the project and he thinks that is a good


thing. Let's go to the Daily Express. Boris, I will get us out of


the EU, big boost for the Daily Express crusade. The Daily Express


is saying that Boris Johnson has the will power and the strength to


influence all of those in the middle that are undecided. He has name


recognition, nobody can mess that mop of blonde hair. -- mess. But can


he carry it for the ad campaign? According to the Daily Express, who


we know have a dog in the fight, they want out, they are saying he is


the most popular politician in the country. I was suggesting here that


he was not as popular in Scotland as they might think, maybe not the


hinterland of the Northwest. I have a feeling you might find, when push


comes to shove, he is a bit metropolitan and they haven't all


seen Have I Got News For You. The Express decided a long time ago that


they want out. Tub thumping Boris, the Guardian had him looking pouting


and worried, the worst picture they could find, I am quite looking


forward to seeing how many versions of Boris we see on the front pages.


James, it will be interesting, if Britain does decide to pull out of


the European Union, Boris Johnson, if he ends up becoming Prime


Minister, could become Prime Minister of England, Wales and


Northern Ireland. The Scots have made it clear, or at least the SNP


have made it clear, they are going to push for another referendum if


Britain pulls out. I keep coming back to this long essay, maybe I am


being far too academic, but... We like brains on this programme! Very


small print as well. He says, and this is beautifully downplayed,


there would be fresh tensions in the union between England and Scotland.


Michael Gove's long explanation about why he was going, it actually


didn't mention the constitutional issue. But I think Nicola Sturgeon


made it fairly clear that she would campaign heavily for Britain to stay


inside. She always has. But there would be a phenomenal window of


opportunity for the Scots that you cannot ignore. Johnson does a fresh


I would say that is the least of the UK's problems. If the Scots voted to


remain, there would have a legitimate grievance. Nicola


Sturgeon said today that they would have another referendum. She has


said it for a long time. During the Scottish referendum, the issue of


European membership was a big deal. It is back on the table. If it was


big during the referendum two years ago, it is back on the table. I


think there is more on this. It's unfortunate we have 120 days of


this. The old Alliance... You are not excited, like the rest of us?


Four times longer than an election campaign! I'll be excited in bits.


You will be in bits, by the end of it. Let's go to The Financial Times,


interesting, big business backs Cameron's push to keep Britain in


the EU. Boris is still in the photograph? This is it, the Mayor of


London coming out and suggesting, against all of the advice, one


suspects, from the city, that this is a bad idea, to push for the EU,


is clearly, going to be, in a few months' time, the ex-mayor of


London. There is no way he could come out and say leave if he was the


Mayor? Under the position of the Conservative mayoral candidate is to


do what? Exactly the same. Zac Goldsmith says he wants to go out as


well. The interesting thing of this thing is that bosses of half of


Britain's biggest companies to sign a latter chilly letter. That means


the other half have other views? I think there is an assumption that


the City of London arm of the money and the influence, is somehow immune


to this. Regardless of what happens, the power and force that London


holds will still be there. There is legitimacy in that. There was all


sorts of threats about how we need to be part of the euro zone to keep


the city going. The city is maybe an international institution that


perhaps will not have any short or medium term effect on this. I think


a London Mayor, a would-be Mayor, can have those positions fairly


legitimately. I don't think it is that important. I am really


surprised how muted Britain is to this. I thought they would have


started the fight back to stay in, if that is what they wanted. Stuart


Rose, of Marks Spencers, previously, is leading the campaign?


The front page of The Financial Times, it is surprising it has not


left onto other front pages. The Times, I promise, dear viewer, the


last reference to Mr Johnson in this particular edition. Boost for other


campaigners, and the Prime Minister told of the decision by text minutes


before the announcement. This goes to the close friendship that these


two men have had for a long time, since university, ruptured? Or


rivalry? It depends, I think the capacity of


politicians to make up is always going to be there. Or to be


political? For instance, I can almost see Boris Johnson's


explanation, and is going through his hair, I meant to call him


earlier, things got out of hand, something to do with the dog, I just


forgot. It is everything it stands for. If he is calling the Prime


Minister ten minutes before he makes a critical decision, and, to be


honest, in front of the Guardian it shows how important Boris Johnson is


to this project. The two politicians whose views mattered, according to a


poll, is David Cameron and Boris Johnson. Effectively, they have made


enemies of themselves. These men were not friends at school they went


to, they were not friends at Oxford. They are not friends now. David


Cameron offered him some kind of minor role in a ministerial role, to


keep him out of trouble. Boris can read what David Cameron is up to and


David Cameron can read what he is up to. The two our rivals. Cameron and


Osborne has been the political access. You could end up with Boris


and Michael Gove. I don't know, here's a much quieter person, but


that might be the next political access. We will stay with The Times,


700,000 sign petition for meningitis vaccination on the NHS. Anybody


under the age of one, 12 months, can get the meningitis B vaccine. If you


are over that, you have to pay for it yourself and there have been a


couple of unfortunate examples of babies dying as a result. It's a


difficult position for the Department of Health and the Health


Secretary. The way meningitis B works is that it works in cycles.


Currently, we are at a very low cycle, the lowest, a 10-year low.


Not many people getting at? Very few. The child immunisation


programme, the meningitis B vaccine was brought in last year. That was


seen as a great campaign, two years push to get that included. It was


brought in, if you like, the efficiency level of that, the money


and where we spend it, what are we getting for it? This campaign shows


you how important, if you like, even one death is to the public. I think


the campaigners are looking at, initially, the under fives. They


would like to see even the two most dangerous parts, and the one, and


then from teenager onwards. They would like all children, the


Department of Health do not have that money. The joint Council on


vaccination did not have the statistics to back it up. It is a


huge long-term battle. Every time we see one picture and one death, the


public react. It is a brutal disease. Jim wrote about that last


week. What this story says to me, who did not write about it last


week, is the power of these polls that are out there. It is the


easiest thing, a click of your mouse or finger, to sign a poll, they have


two thirds of a million signatures. There are all these polls that's


700,000 comet has gone up in the headline. These polls are going to


be a nightmare for the government going forward. You could get a


million people sign up to something. It is a lot of people, it shows


public feeling. Even if you were prepared to pay ?1000 at a private


clinic, the stocks of the vaccine are just not there. The NHS have


long-term plans, obviously they will be first. The Child Immunisation


Programme is very important. Worried parents will pay anything. Briefly


come onto the final story, the Telegraph. Corgis, what is this


about? This is a nib... He That is news in brief, by the way. The


Queen, how he has breakfast delivered in Tupperware containers,


a bit of plastic, the corgis are eating out of family silver. Named


family silver. I can't tell you much more, but it sounds like they are


dining better than she is. Living the life of Riley, and we're not


talking about... You will be back to talk about more headlines? More


Boris! Now it is time for Click.


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