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Benitez got on in his first match in charge of Newcastle United, or did


Leicester managed to extend their lead at the table?


Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers


With me are the broadcaster and columnist, Julia Hartley-Brewer,


and the political commentator, Lance Price.


The Guardian looks at how young families are struggling


to afford rent and contrasts their plight with the property


The Telegraph claims supporters of Britain leaving the EU


are more likely to vote in the forthcoming referendum.


The Mirror reports on the teenager accused of deliberately


running over and killing a police officer on Merseyside last year.


The Metro focuses on President Putin's decision to begin the


The Mail says big firms are slashing overtime,


cutting recruitment and axing staff perks to pay


The Times says George Osborne is to accelerate the spending


of billions of pounds on new roads, railways and housing in an effort to


The Sun leads on the controversy surrounding Top Gear.


And the Express warns us not to complain that we're old


I'm clearly losing it. Nothing to do with the typo, it's all my fault.


It's been a win-win for Mr Putin, he went in in September, pulling out


six months later, Assad is still on the table has been the leader as far


as peace talks are concerned. He's done it Chris Lynn yellow it's been


very controversial from start to finish. What does he mean by this?


That he's pulling them out? Fee is using his diplomatic skill as well


as military might. -- he is. Less than a year ago he was a pariah on


the international stage. Everybody feels they need to involve him, he


has a key role in the peace talks in Syria and he's propped up his mate,


President Assad, much to the fury of not only the Syrian opposition but


also many in the West. They're clearly looking after Russian


interests, he needs the military base on the net, he needs the Syrian


ally, he was never going to let Assad fall, no question. My big


worry is when the Western forces don't act and we are too scared to


take risks ourselves after Iraq and Afghanistan. If we don't get


involved then someone else will, it's Russia, and the people of


Syria, they would have been better off with us. We had David Cameron


decide he was going to go to Parliament, he had to go to


Parliament, to get authorisation. It's a ridiculous thing to insist


that is something decided by the backbench. Convention has now


changed, it's become established that Parliament has to be


consulted. Consulted but they shouldn't have final say. Barack


Obama also felt he had to go to Congress in order to get


authorisation to start launching attacks more this if Risley as far


as chemical weapons potentially being used by Assad. Both those


leaders decided to go to their parliaments essentially to consult


their people on this, President Putin didn't have to do this, he


didn't have that problem, it's easier for him. It is. Obama drew a


red line and said chemical weapons are used, that's the red line,


chemical weapons were used, no one doubts that, but he didn't do


anything. That's because of what happened in the British Parliament.


If you seriously think that America can't attack without Britain that's


absurd, 75% of the military might of Nato is American, there should have


been a clear message and there wasn't. Are you saying the lessons


of Iraq should have been completely ignored? The lessons of Iraq were


for Iraq, they went wrong but that doesn't mean you then say you don't


get involved at all. A mob of innocent lives were lost in a rock,


not necessarily in the war but in the many years since the insurgency


-- a lot of innocent lives were lost in Iraq. But we will see more


devastation in Syria now because we haven't got involved, a different


lesson has been learned from Syria. We can't apply lessons from one


country to another. Isn't that what happened with Libya, which is a


conflict that happened in 2011 just before this. Russia, the United


States, European allies got involved there, and it's a complete mess. But


there was a consensus at the time supported by public opinion that it


was the right thing to do. Supported by public opinion, isn't that the


key thing here? That's not the best guide as to whether military action


should have been taken. There were massive protests about the Iraq


war, but there was a vote in parliament in favour of the Iraq


war. And the British public. And the opinion polls suggested a majority


was in favour. The idea that this public have a clamour to be


consulted before military action is ever taken is a mistake. Putin is


usually popular in his own country. Why did Cameron and Obama do that?


Why didn't they just said we're going to go after this guy. Because


they didn't want to get involved. There in mind the military power


Assad had was different to what they are dealing with in other


countries. It was quite clear that Obama didn't want to get involved.


It would have been a risk. The Americans have no interest in Europe


or the Middle East at all, they're turning their attention to the


Pacific, they've got other things on their mind. They got involved in


Libya, it strikes me that Syria is a particular... Remember Benghazi


after a public statement from Gaddafi that he was going to


massacre them. I'm an is involved, the Saudis are involved, Russian


Mike is involved -- I'm an. Didn't that make them want to get involved


-- Russian might. There are massive costs for in action. In the course


of history we don't learn those lessons. We saw it in Rwanda and


osmium, never again will we allow people to be massacred by their


people -- Bosnia. We have sat by and watched an evil dictator massacre


his people and we've done nothing. This trend of Western leaders using


public opinion as an excuse for inaction. They say they can't do it


because the public don't want it, but they themselves are shying away


from taking the hard decisions. Exactly, it's taking the hard


decision on a hard topic. Libby was an easy topic and Syria was more


difficult. Politicians like low-risk decisions where they will be praise


for whatever they do -- Libya. Brexit campaign has the edge? This


is analysis of polling, this isn't Brexit is going to win, fingers


crossed for me. This is really interesting. Who is likely to vote


and how passionate do people feel about things? They are saying the


people who are pro- Brexit are more passionate and more likely to vote


than people who are in favour of remaining. Part of that is there


more likely to be older and older people are more likely to vote by a


massive factor, as we saw at the election. But it's quite difficult,


I want to leave the EU, have done for some time, and I feel passionate


about it, but it's difficult for the remainder camp, who are sceptical


about the EU, but on balance they want to stay in -- remain. But


they're not passionate. It's a shrug vote. I want some passion passion. I


disagree with what Julia is saying. The people that the -- for all its


faults, people recognise the function of the EU. People can


easily point at the things the EU has got wrong. How long have we


got? It's easy for people to pick holes in the European project,


that's the easiest thing in the world, but for those that still


believe fundamentally and passionately that Britain's


membership of the EU has been in our interests hold that view as strongly


as the Brexit people. I think the polling would show not the majority


do. Not those of us on either side of the argument who have strongly


held views and will argue until the cows come home, it's the voters at


home who don't think about the EU and these issues every day of the


week. Normal people. Sensible people. Whether or not they are


going to be as easily persuaded. The real problem for the remain


campaign, that I support, those wanting to stay in, is a degree of


complacency. Do we look at the chaos on the Brexit side, all squabbling


between themselves, we think we have the big guns on our site. If you go


into a campaign with that level of complacency, that is more of a risk


to the membership of the EU than the spurious idea that Brexit people are


more passionate in their beliefs than we are. We will see. We will


see indeed. We've got a long way to go. And I'm knackered already. I


think you speak on the of the whole British people. On behalf of the


whole world. Onto the Times, Mr Osborne, eight pretty big speech on


Wednesday. -- a pretty big speech. I find budget stories frustrating to


say the least because most of them are being briefed for a purpose, to


raise expectations or low expectations. Not that you ever did


that? When I went to the government we wouldn't have ever dreamt of


doing that. Absolutely not. As a political editor I would never do


those phone calls. No, it would be wrong. This one suggests investment


in infrastructure could be a good thing. One of the dividing lines


with the Labour Party has been that Mr Osborne wants to pay down the


debt, although he isn't doing a very good job of that, he wants to cut


public spending but he's missed his targets on that as well. Labour and


John McDonnell, the Shadow Chancellor was saying on the weekend


in a speech, that spending on investment, borrowing from


investment is a good thing and Mr Osborne is saying more or less the


same thing. We have a clear divide between left and right in politics


here. Doesn't that make sense? If you're going to miss your deficit


reduction target you might as well miss it because you got a load of


cash in to build a school? Yes, it's all very well. It depends what you


spend it on. A lot of people have a question leaving outside London


spending millions on Crossrail. I live in London, it's very helpful to


have a new railway line going from north to south London, but for the


vast majority of people that don't live in London there is a lot of


resentment for things like this. Trans-Pennine... The longest tunnel


in Europe is also a problem, longest road tunnel in Europe. There's a lot


more need for transport links in the northern powerhouse cities. From the


east to west up north on the links are dreadful. Trains are a


nightmare. The fundamental thing is housebuilding. We have millions more


people but we haven't built houses. The pledges from all three parties


at the general election didn't touch the size of the need we have four


more houses, one of the biggest problems we face is people have


massively high housing costs and we could deal with that overnight if we


build houses, and it creates jobs. You make it sound so easy. It is.


For the last 50 years we haven't managed to do it. We did it in the


post-war years. Where there's a will there's a way. There were holes in


parts of our streets after the war, they have to do something with


them. There's a lot more space in this country. We have been yakking


for so long. What shall we do? I think we should do Chris Evans. Why


am I laughing at this one? You wonder whether the new Top Dear team


are at home thinking this is a terrible story, isn't this awful? Or


they are thinking we are on the front of the papers. Macro what you


are too cynical. If you do a stunt at the Cenotaph on


Sunday... This is a ridiculous fuss, Sunday... This is a ridiculous fuss,


I can only assume it is a PR job. No one is saying we will have any issue


with this whatsoever. Driving a Morris mini passed the Cenotaph is


fine, driving minis and doing really is? The BBC is saying don't worry,


this footage won't be shown anyway. Is not going to be shown... What a


waste of our money, show it -- it's not going to be. You wrote a book on


spin, you know it when you see it. Those wheels were spinning, no


question about it. How long have we got, what's going on? Where are we?


We've got two minutes left. I like coffee cups. Coffee cups, yeah.


Julia, coffee cups? When we go and buy our coffee for ?2 50. ?2 50,


you'll be lucky. Apparently all these big companies, Costa and


Cathay Nero and Pret, they say they recycle their cups, if you're that


obsessed with recycling you're probably not buying a takeaway


cardboard cup. You buy a normal cup and reuse that. The recycling claims


from a lot of places are all a bit frothy anyway. You wonder how much


actually gets recycled. cardboard that has gone into making


the cuts has been recycled. This is true. Rather than a promise it's


going to be recycled afterwards. It is covered in this waxy stuff. I'm


not sure many people going out and buying a coffee really care. These


are the people that just throw their cup on the floor anyway, they don't


give a monkeys about recycling, I'm speaking from personal experience. I


can't let it go. It's very annoying. Little bits of crinkly


cardboard that stop your fingers getting burned, that gets recycled.


And I still don't care. Julia doesn't give a monkeys, folks.


Things on the floor, I don't Oar do care about that. You wouldn't


litter, that's very important. Will we get to the wonky dog? May be next


on. Now it's time for Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday,


I'm Katherine Downes.


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