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Benitez got on in his first match in charge of Newcastle United, or did

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Leicester managed to extend their lead at the table?

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

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With me are the broadcaster and columnist, Julia Hartley-Brewer,

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and the political commentator, Lance Price.

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The Guardian looks at how young families are struggling

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to afford rent and contrasts their plight with the property

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The Telegraph claims supporters of Britain leaving the EU

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are more likely to vote in the forthcoming referendum.

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The Mirror reports on the teenager accused of deliberately

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running over and killing a police officer on Merseyside last year.

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The Metro focuses on President Putin's decision to begin the

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The Mail says big firms are slashing overtime,

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cutting recruitment and axing staff perks to pay

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The Times says George Osborne is to accelerate the spending

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of billions of pounds on new roads, railways and housing in an effort to

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The Sun leads on the controversy surrounding Top Gear.

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And the Express warns us not to complain that we're old

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I'm clearly losing it. Nothing to do with the typo, it's all my fault.

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It's been a win-win for Mr Putin, he went in in September, pulling out

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six months later, Assad is still on the table has been the leader as far

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as peace talks are concerned. He's done it Chris Lynn yellow it's been

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very controversial from start to finish. What does he mean by this?

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That he's pulling them out? Fee is using his diplomatic skill as well

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as military might. -- he is. Less than a year ago he was a pariah on

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the international stage. Everybody feels they need to involve him, he

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has a key role in the peace talks in Syria and he's propped up his mate,

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President Assad, much to the fury of not only the Syrian opposition but

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also many in the West. They're clearly looking after Russian

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interests, he needs the military base on the net, he needs the Syrian

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ally, he was never going to let Assad fall, no question. My big

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worry is when the Western forces don't act and we are too scared to

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take risks ourselves after Iraq and Afghanistan. If we don't get

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involved then someone else will, it's Russia, and the people of

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Syria, they would have been better off with us. We had David Cameron

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decide he was going to go to Parliament, he had to go to

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Parliament, to get authorisation. It's a ridiculous thing to insist

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that is something decided by the backbench. Convention has now

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changed, it's become established that Parliament has to be

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consulted. Consulted but they shouldn't have final say. Barack

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Obama also felt he had to go to Congress in order to get

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authorisation to start launching attacks more this if Risley as far

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as chemical weapons potentially being used by Assad. Both those

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leaders decided to go to their parliaments essentially to consult

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their people on this, President Putin didn't have to do this, he

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didn't have that problem, it's easier for him. It is. Obama drew a

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red line and said chemical weapons are used, that's the red line,

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chemical weapons were used, no one doubts that, but he didn't do

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anything. That's because of what happened in the British Parliament.

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If you seriously think that America can't attack without Britain that's

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absurd, 75% of the military might of Nato is American, there should have

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been a clear message and there wasn't. Are you saying the lessons

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of Iraq should have been completely ignored? The lessons of Iraq were

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for Iraq, they went wrong but that doesn't mean you then say you don't

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get involved at all. A mob of innocent lives were lost in a rock,

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not necessarily in the war but in the many years since the insurgency

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-- a lot of innocent lives were lost in Iraq. But we will see more

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devastation in Syria now because we haven't got involved, a different

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lesson has been learned from Syria. We can't apply lessons from one

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country to another. Isn't that what happened with Libya, which is a

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conflict that happened in 2011 just before this. Russia, the United

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States, European allies got involved there, and it's a complete mess. But

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there was a consensus at the time supported by public opinion that it

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was the right thing to do. Supported by public opinion, isn't that the

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key thing here? That's not the best guide as to whether military action

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should have been taken. There were massive protests about the Iraq

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war, but there was a vote in parliament in favour of the Iraq

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war. And the British public. And the opinion polls suggested a majority

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was in favour. The idea that this public have a clamour to be

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consulted before military action is ever taken is a mistake. Putin is

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usually popular in his own country. Why did Cameron and Obama do that?

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Why didn't they just said we're going to go after this guy. Because

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they didn't want to get involved. There in mind the military power

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Assad had was different to what they are dealing with in other

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countries. It was quite clear that Obama didn't want to get involved.

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It would have been a risk. The Americans have no interest in Europe

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or the Middle East at all, they're turning their attention to the

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Pacific, they've got other things on their mind. They got involved in

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Libya, it strikes me that Syria is a particular... Remember Benghazi

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after a public statement from Gaddafi that he was going to

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massacre them. I'm an is involved, the Saudis are involved, Russian

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Mike is involved -- I'm an. Didn't that make them want to get involved

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-- Russian might. There are massive costs for in action. In the course

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of history we don't learn those lessons. We saw it in Rwanda and

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osmium, never again will we allow people to be massacred by their

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people -- Bosnia. We have sat by and watched an evil dictator massacre

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his people and we've done nothing. This trend of Western leaders using

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public opinion as an excuse for inaction. They say they can't do it

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because the public don't want it, but they themselves are shying away

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from taking the hard decisions. Exactly, it's taking the hard

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decision on a hard topic. Libby was an easy topic and Syria was more

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difficult. Politicians like low-risk decisions where they will be praise

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for whatever they do -- Libya. Brexit campaign has the edge? This

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is analysis of polling, this isn't Brexit is going to win, fingers

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crossed for me. This is really interesting. Who is likely to vote

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and how passionate do people feel about things? They are saying the

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people who are pro- Brexit are more passionate and more likely to vote

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than people who are in favour of remaining. Part of that is there

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more likely to be older and older people are more likely to vote by a

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massive factor, as we saw at the election. But it's quite difficult,

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I want to leave the EU, have done for some time, and I feel passionate

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about it, but it's difficult for the remainder camp, who are sceptical

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about the EU, but on balance they want to stay in -- remain. But

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they're not passionate. It's a shrug vote. I want some passion passion. I

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disagree with what Julia is saying. The people that the -- for all its

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faults, people recognise the function of the EU. People can

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easily point at the things the EU has got wrong. How long have we

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got? It's easy for people to pick holes in the European project,

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that's the easiest thing in the world, but for those that still

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believe fundamentally and passionately that Britain's

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membership of the EU has been in our interests hold that view as strongly

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as the Brexit people. I think the polling would show not the majority

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do. Not those of us on either side of the argument who have strongly

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held views and will argue until the cows come home, it's the voters at

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home who don't think about the EU and these issues every day of the

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week. Normal people. Sensible people. Whether or not they are

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going to be as easily persuaded. The real problem for the remain

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campaign, that I support, those wanting to stay in, is a degree of

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complacency. Do we look at the chaos on the Brexit side, all squabbling

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between themselves, we think we have the big guns on our site. If you go

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into a campaign with that level of complacency, that is more of a risk

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to the membership of the EU than the spurious idea that Brexit people are

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more passionate in their beliefs than we are. We will see. We will

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see indeed. We've got a long way to go. And I'm knackered already. I

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think you speak on the of the whole British people. On behalf of the

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whole world. Onto the Times, Mr Osborne, eight pretty big speech on

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Wednesday. -- a pretty big speech. I find budget stories frustrating to

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say the least because most of them are being briefed for a purpose, to

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raise expectations or low expectations. Not that you ever did

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that? When I went to the government we wouldn't have ever dreamt of

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doing that. Absolutely not. As a political editor I would never do

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those phone calls. No, it would be wrong. This one suggests investment

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in infrastructure could be a good thing. One of the dividing lines

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with the Labour Party has been that Mr Osborne wants to pay down the

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debt, although he isn't doing a very good job of that, he wants to cut

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public spending but he's missed his targets on that as well. Labour and

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John McDonnell, the Shadow Chancellor was saying on the weekend

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in a speech, that spending on investment, borrowing from

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investment is a good thing and Mr Osborne is saying more or less the

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same thing. We have a clear divide between left and right in politics

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here. Doesn't that make sense? If you're going to miss your deficit

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reduction target you might as well miss it because you got a load of

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cash in to build a school? Yes, it's all very well. It depends what you

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spend it on. A lot of people have a question leaving outside London

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spending millions on Crossrail. I live in London, it's very helpful to

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have a new railway line going from north to south London, but for the

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vast majority of people that don't live in London there is a lot of

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resentment for things like this. Trans-Pennine... The longest tunnel

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in Europe is also a problem, longest road tunnel in Europe. There's a lot

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more need for transport links in the northern powerhouse cities. From the

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east to west up north on the links are dreadful. Trains are a

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nightmare. The fundamental thing is housebuilding. We have millions more

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people but we haven't built houses. The pledges from all three parties

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at the general election didn't touch the size of the need we have four

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more houses, one of the biggest problems we face is people have

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massively high housing costs and we could deal with that overnight if we

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build houses, and it creates jobs. You make it sound so easy. It is.

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For the last 50 years we haven't managed to do it. We did it in the

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post-war years. Where there's a will there's a way. There were holes in

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parts of our streets after the war, they have to do something with

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them. There's a lot more space in this country. We have been yakking

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for so long. What shall we do? I think we should do Chris Evans. Why

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am I laughing at this one? You wonder whether the new Top Dear team

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are at home thinking this is a terrible story, isn't this awful? Or

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they are thinking we are on the front of the papers. Macro what you

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are too cynical. If you do a stunt at the Cenotaph on

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Sunday... This is a ridiculous fuss, Sunday... This is a ridiculous fuss,

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I can only assume it is a PR job. No one is saying we will have any issue

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with this whatsoever. Driving a Morris mini passed the Cenotaph is

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fine, driving minis and doing really is? The BBC is saying don't worry,

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this footage won't be shown anyway. Is not going to be shown... What a

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waste of our money, show it -- it's not going to be. You wrote a book on

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spin, you know it when you see it. Those wheels were spinning, no

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question about it. How long have we got, what's going on? Where are we?

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We've got two minutes left. I like coffee cups. Coffee cups, yeah.

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Julia, coffee cups? When we go and buy our coffee for ?2 50. ?2 50,

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you'll be lucky. Apparently all these big companies, Costa and

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Cathay Nero and Pret, they say they recycle their cups, if you're that

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obsessed with recycling you're probably not buying a takeaway

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cardboard cup. You buy a normal cup and reuse that. The recycling claims

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from a lot of places are all a bit frothy anyway. You wonder how much

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actually gets recycled. cardboard that has gone into making

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the cuts has been recycled. This is true. Rather than a promise it's

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going to be recycled afterwards. It is covered in this waxy stuff. I'm

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not sure many people going out and buying a coffee really care. These

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are the people that just throw their cup on the floor anyway, they don't

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give a monkeys about recycling, I'm speaking from personal experience. I

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can't let it go. It's very annoying. Little bits of crinkly

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cardboard that stop your fingers getting burned, that gets recycled.

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And I still don't care. Julia doesn't give a monkeys, folks.

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Things on the floor, I don't Oar do care about that. You wouldn't

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litter, that's very important. Will we get to the wonky dog? May be next

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on. Now it's time for Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday,

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I'm Katherine Downes.

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No need to wait until tomorrow morning to see what's in the papers - tune in for a lively and informed conversation about the next day's headlines.


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