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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers


With me are Susie Boniface, columnist at the Mirror and


The Telegraph leads on Iain Duncan Smith's resignation,


saying his decision risks throwing the Government into disarray.


The Times says Mr Duncan Smith chose to resign despite a U-turn by


George Osborne over the cuts which were kicked into 'the long grass'.


The FT says Mr Duncan Smith has inflicted serious damage


The Independent has an image of the arrests in Brussels.


Its main story is a warning from Wales' First Minister that


an English vote to leave the EU would prompt a constitutional crisis


'Got him', is the headline on the Mirror, next to


And the Express leads on the deal between Turkey


and the EU to try to curb the flow of migrants into Europe.


So, let's begin with this story that broke this evening and has taken


quite a lot of people by surprise. Iain Duncan Smith deciding to resign


from the Cabinet as the Work and Pensions Secretary. It opposes what


seems to be a rift between the Treasury and his formative arm. Yes,


there's nobody in Whitehall who doesn't seem to have a blade between


his shoulders this morning. The other thing that happened today is


that Iain Duncan Smith has been told for the third time by a judge to


release some paperwork, which he didn't want to release. The


paperwork is about internal reviews to how universal credit was going


and what problems they had. The papers were expected to show a


series of cock ups. He has been told today he really does have to publish


them, as well as the Treasury briefing against him and his


department and now we've had a really brutal resignation letter in


which he blames George Osborne for everything that's happened in the


past six years, while also saying he is proud of it, which doesn't make


much sense. What is Iain Duncan Smith opposed to? Austerity itself


or certain measures that were put into the budget this week? People


who have been following this government for six years will be


surprised by the discovery that Iain Duncan Smith could be a critic of


austerity, it was he seemed to be the man in the engine room of


austerity, the man making the wild case for austerity. While the


shortage of money that it was necessary to reform now. Iain Duncan


Smith approaches politics from a Christian, highly moral or most


highly Tory perspective and he sees his job as reforming welfare to help


people into work. Even if it causes hardship for some along the way.


Yes, because any kind of welfare reform does that. Also it is simply


necessary in order to reform a system which is now bloated. Here is


the thing. He says that his well-intentioned policies were


sometimes borrowed by the Treasury, inserted into a budget and used as


an opportunity to save money. At the same time as the Treasury was


carrying out other forms of taxation that gave the impression to the


public that the government was both cutting money for welfare recipients


and cutting taxes for the highest paid. So what Iain Duncan Smith is


really doing is criticising the way austerity is being applied. He is


walking a very fine line and isn't necessarily saying austerity is


wrong, he is just saying that it has been hijacked by the Treasury and he


feels that he is good plans and good programmes have been


misrepresented. But also these reforms, which he has apparently


resigned over, are ones that his department came up with and they


were going to implement them in the future and he says they weren't


ready yet, because he hadn't managed to convince everybody at. That


doesn't mean he has a moral objection to those cuts per se, it


just means he objects to the timing. That's not the moral objection


you've got in his resignation letter and he isn't especially Christian


Wade Christ reportedly said in the Bible to give to anyone who asks. --


when Christ. This is before the welfare state. I can't defend him


because he isn't speaking to my era and telling me what to say, but I


would imagine that he would reply by saying that first of all don't


forget the minimum wage hasn't gone up yet, so if you are reforming


welfare this debate, it is wise to weight. -- wise to wait. The living


wage might not affect certain people. But if they are working


part-time they might be earning more certain. His point is that the


welfare reform agenda was undermined because it was unfairly associated


with cutting taxes for the rich and reducing payments. But it is the


marketing of it. We are so engrossed in the conversation and forgetting


to look at the front pages. I am listening and forgetting my job!


Which is to show you the front pages. The Work and Pensions


Secretary says that slashing benefits is indispensable. That's


sure you what the FT -- let's show you what the FT started with. It


leads with Europe gambling to stem migrant flow. Right in the middle of


the paper. However, because this story broke this evening, the papers


had a race on their hands to get the front page changed. Iain Duncan


Smith quits over welfare cuts. How damaging it is for the governments


generally and George Osborne in particular? It is incredibly


damaging for George Osborne. The goal was that he would replace David


Cameron. That was the gameplan. We had the opportunity to move to the


Foreign Secretary after the election. He chose instead to at the


Treasury. The budget has been a difficult one, with very confused


messages. Both the left and right have made criticism. The handling of


it has been controversial. Now that Iain Duncan Smith says this man is


the enemy, of everything when it comes to social policy, it makes it


much harder for him to replace David Cameron ago as he is now a toxic and


controversial figure for many people within the Conservative party and


Parliament. As Brexit emerges and Osborne will be out there everyday


saying, if you vote for Brexit than held will emerge and the dead will


walk and Britain will sink into the fiery pits, again he will alienate


himself from ordinary Tory grassroots. The Guardian. George


Osborne humbled by disability benefits. They've now said there was


no mention of Iain Duncan Smith going. It was written beforehand. If


the Treasury at first saying this morning that this is definitely


going to happen, that the budget and that's what we are doing, for them


to write back and say that actually we are going to think about it and


consult and it may not happen after all, then in that context Iain


Duncan Smith would have got what he wanted. He would never have been


able to introduce those cuts further down the line. But he has Cameron


and Osborne to write back and admit they were wrong. So there's no real


reason to resign on that moral basis, if those cuts were imposed.


But from his point of view he has been working on these reforms for


years and within three days number 10 as announced they will never do


it. So he may well in some sense have gotten what he wanted, but in


the long run it must have been humiliating for the man. They have


this SOI request as well. -- FOR. We have the text of a letter that the


PM has said the Iain Duncan Smith, just a portion of it. I regret that


he has chosen to step down at this moment. Together we designed the


personal independence payment to support the most rollable and give


disabled people more independence. We all agreed the increased spending


should be properly managed and focused on those who need it most.


That is why we collectively agreed you, number 10 and the Treasury,


proposals which you and your department announced a week ago.


Today we agreed not to receive the policies in the current form and


instead work together to get the work right in the coming months. So


I am disappointed that he has decided to resign. Listening to that


letter, my ear picks up that when it was agreed they would pursue the


policy last weekend when it was agreed they would back down from the


policy, was he involved in the second decision? How collective is a


decision as well? Someone has to be the boss. There is a hierarchy.


Someone is in charge and says this is what is happening next and to say


you are puzzled and disappointed... He said this was all your fault and


he says you are part of it as well. Was there a Cabinet meeting this


afternoon? I may have missed when it was collectively discussed. I


suspect not. Iain Duncan Smith can also reply by pointing out that to


some degree this sense of Cabinet leech analogy has already been


broken by the Brexit debate, because he says he was denied access to


certain civil servant documents and the pro EU members of Cabinet are


allowed to speak to the media and say what they want and the others


aren't. The arguably that Cabinet leech analogy has not been there for


a couple of years. -- weeks. -- Cabinet division. There are only a


few more months. He might as well get some airtime! So cynical!


Realistic. Moving on. Let's talk about the story we thought we were


going to be covering pretty much for the entirety of the review, which is


the arrest of Salah Abdeslam, the 26 your old man who has been on the run


since the Paris attacks. He is the main suspect following the deaths of


130 people in Paris last November. The world's most wanted man is the


headline on the Daily Mirror. He hadn't actually gone very far. No,


he was living near where his brother lived in Marlon Pack in Brussels. --


Moleenbek. It's a good thing they managed to get him alive, but the


Brussels authorities seem to only have got him by accident. They were


going after some counterfeiters that they thought perhaps was linked to


the Paris attacks five months ago. They then got into a couple of


flats, found they were under gunfire and realised they had managed to


find him and shot him in the leg, which is not the kind of thing you


aim for if you are policemen. He has been shot and found accidentally.


Because they were very well armed this time and were taken by surprise


when they went to that flat that they thought was empty in that


certain area of Belgium. Today a different prospect. I was vaguely


hearing on the radio before I came to the studio something about the


boss and maybe they were given very short notice that he was in the


area. I don't know. The significance of this is enormous because


obviously it was one of the devastating attacks that has


happened in Europe. Hundreds killed. His brother was killed in the


attack. And I think this was an opportunity, when you capture


someone live, not only to assess them for information and


intelligence but to also address the issue of why he did it. For me


that's the big question, the philosophical question that Europe


has got to address. If you can catch a terrorist rather than kill him,


you prevent him from becoming a martyr, you reduce him to the status


of a normal human being in a court undergoing a mundane process,


looking as haggard as anyone would do when they are in court. That's


important. It is important for the families that they have their


justice and their day in court and it is important for the Tera


network, -- terror network, that the martyrdom is denied. Are you saying


Osama Bin Laden should not have been shot? No, but the whole point of


what we do as a civilisation is that that is the correct way to behave.


But this man is a cold in the wheel of Islamic State.


But this man is a cold in the wheel of Islamic State. Osama Bin Laden


was the head of it. I think it was easier to take out a Osama Bin


Laden. It was easier to take him out. But this is not the end of it.


Francois Heartland said there were far more people involved in the


Paris attacks then the authorities at first realised -- Francois


Heartland. As well as addressing the questions you mentioned. And the


network stretches across the whole continent, including connections to


England, as well as into Syria, issues of border control, so yes, it


is a huge issue. Brexit and the migrant issue on the front pages as


well. We will try to do with those again tomorrow. But that is it for


the papers tonight. Thank you to our guests for coming in. Now it is time


for Sportsday.


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