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That is all the sport for now, and now on BBC News, here is Govan with | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
the Papers. -- Gavin. Hello and welcome to our Sunday | :00:00. | :00:14. | |
morning edition of the Papers. former editor of the | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
Independent on Sunday, and Ian Birrell, associate editor | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
of the Mail on Sunday. The Observer's main story is a poll | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
it carried out on the EU referendum, which suggests | :00:26. | :00:32. | |
the Out camp is leading. The Sunday Express claims police | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
have been given six more months to find out what happened | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
to Madeleine McCann, who went missing from a holiday | :00:38. | :00:39. | |
apartment in Portugal The Mail on Sunday alleges | :00:40. | :00:41. | |
the Government overspent its foreign aid budget | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
by some ?200 million last year. The Sunday Times | :00:45. | :00:46. | |
carries an investigation and claims one doctor | :00:47. | :00:48. | |
has prescribed banned performance enhancing drugs to 150 | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
well-known sporting figures. British aid to Tanzania is the | :00:54. | :00:57. | |
headline on the Sunday Telegraph, which suggests the Foreign | :00:58. | :01:03. | |
Office should suspend aid to the country, following | :01:04. | :01:06. | |
disputed elections in Zanzibar. And the Simpsons characters | :01:07. | :01:08. | |
Smithers and Mr Burns are pictured on the front page | :01:09. | :01:10. | |
of the Independent. Smithers is due to declare his love | :01:11. | :01:12. | |
for his boss, Mr Burns, Let's begin with what we have been | :01:13. | :01:26. | |
leading on, picking up from the Sunday I'm story, British doctor | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
claiming he doped sports stars, are you so prized by this? I am not | :01:30. | :01:36. | |
surprised by it. This particular doctor, it is quite interesting, | :01:37. | :01:39. | |
because the UK Anti-Doping agency had identified him a couple of years | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
ago, I think, but any investigation was quickly dismissed, and the | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
Sunday Times team have gone back to him. He has named names, and they | :01:50. | :01:58. | |
are not giving those names here, unsurprisingly, he has given 150 | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
high end the sports stars. One wonders if a little bit of that, | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
because it was all undercover filming, was some that the sales | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
pitch for someone trying to attract new clients, I don't know. But given | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
that we have already heard about athletics, cycling, tennis quite | :02:16. | :02:21. | |
recently, there was a BBC investigation with Buzzfeed into | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
that, so it is not surprising that it was all focused on this one | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
doctor. I would like to see now a deeper and wider investigation. As | :02:32. | :02:35. | |
an editor, if you have got the names and know the names of these people, | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
which have not been published in the paper, and I noticed on Twitter some | :02:41. | :02:43. | |
people are saying, typical mainstream media, what do you have | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
to think about before you publish these names of presumably very | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
famous people? First of all, you have to think about what the lawyers | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
are going to say! They would say, do not publish those names, because | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
this is one person's word. It could be a complete fabrication, so first | :03:01. | :03:04. | |
of all you would go to each and every one of those stars before you | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
named them. They do seem to have gone to some of them. You say, this | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
is the allegation, what do you have to say? I don't suppose any of them | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
would be likely to say, well, yes, caught bang to rights. There is an | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
ethical issue, this is just one person's word, and these careers | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
could be ruined, the public would think they were true, so you have to | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
think through that as well. I am just surprised it has taken force | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
along for people to suggest that some people in the Premier League | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
are involved, because given the rewards, particularly in football in | :03:39. | :03:41. | |
this country, perhaps it is up rising it has taken so long. It is | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
not at all surprised in, but it is a great story, credit to the Sunday | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
Times for getting it, because I think the real scandal is that we | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
are seeing sport at the sport at the sport whereby the authorities who | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
are meant to be in charge of anti-doping, meant to be in charge | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
of regulating the game, have been basically allowing shady practices | :04:02. | :04:04. | |
to be going on, presumably because of the tide of money, but we have | :04:05. | :04:10. | |
seen it in athletics, cycling, tennis, football allegedly. I think | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
the authorities have behaved atrociously, because I assume of the | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
sums of money involved. And apart from the fans, if you were an honest | :04:21. | :04:33. | |
sports or woman,... That is the argument, and the UK anti-doping | :04:34. | :04:36. | |
authority, they are the people who have been called to look into the | :04:37. | :04:43. | |
big Russian scandal of doping, and so, if they were given information | :04:44. | :04:48. | |
about this doctor and did nothing about it, there are already calls | :04:49. | :04:55. | |
for the person who runs UK Anti-Doping to stand down or for | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
there to be an investigation, because it is not surprising, but it | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
needs to be rooted out, because there are honest sportsmen and women | :05:03. | :05:08. | |
who need this to be dealt with. If they knew about it for two years, | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
they should all be cleared out, none of them should be allowed to carry | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
on. Let's move on to the Mail on Sunday, a lot on foreign aid, quite | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
an extraordinary story, I will read a front page. ?172 million is what | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
we overspend on foreign aid last year by mistake as sneaked out by | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
the Government on Friday, another to keep Port Talbot plant alive for six | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
months. There are pages and pages of very detailed investigation into | :05:37. | :05:42. | |
foreign aid, a good story on page seven, despair for steelworkers, so | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
why are we giving ?9 million to Nigeria to help its leather tanning | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
industry? That is the context, hard times at home, giving money abroad. | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
Tel us why the paper has devoted so much space to this. What is | :05:56. | :06:01. | |
interesting is that the paper is focusing on the idea not just that | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
aid is a flawed concept, which is my personal view, but the fixed target | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
is a nonsense. This beset by Professor Angus Deighton, a Nobel | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
Prize winning economist, the man who devised the metrics for measuring | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
global poverty, pointing out the stupidity of having a fixed target, | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
how it is about us, not them, about making politicians here look good, | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
but not about helping. Otherwise, why would you have a figure that | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
goes up and down depending on British growth. The paper has tapped | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
into something with readers who saw the speed at which they signed this | :06:37. | :06:42. | |
e-petition that the paper has launched, to get a debate in | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
Parliament on this. There is clearly very strong public anger, and it is | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
right, I think, when you see things going on. You picked out the leather | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
industry, but if you read the detail, you have someone working on | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
a scheme that had ?91 million across various industries to boost | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
industries in Nigeria, and one person is quoted saying that Chi | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
went in, and the only Nigerians were the drivers and the people making | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
copy, and it was full of white Europeans who had flown in at great | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
expense to give workshops. -- making coffee. That is the sort of thing | :07:17. | :07:22. | |
that gets people annoyed, money going to the Palestinian Authority, | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
who is then funding prisoners who are convicted of terrorism. There is | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
an interview with a British woman who was appallingly attacked and | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
stabbed, I think it was 13 times, she had to play dead while they | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
tried to stab her through the heart. She is not surprisingly furious that | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
her own country is funding the authorities which are giving these | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
people who did this to her, these terrorists, ?9,000 a year. This will | :07:49. | :07:54. | |
strike a chord with a lot of people. It does, and all of the examples | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
that Ian has given, they are heart-rending, they do inside anger, | :08:00. | :08:01. | |
because they sound completely unjustifiable. But I would say, I am | :08:02. | :08:08. | |
not a complete scorched earth on foreign aid, and for instance in | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
Pakistan, if the money is being used corruptly, that is a bad thing and | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
needs to be investigated. But that money is earmarked for schools in | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
Pakistan, which particularly for girls is an important issue. The | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
foreign aid we do give it something like 0.08% of our gross national | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
income, so even though the numbers are huge, proportionately it is not | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
the most enormous thing that we do. To be fair, it is 0.7, ?16 billion | :08:36. | :08:41. | |
by the end of the parliament. I am seeing damage being done in the | :08:42. | :08:46. | |
world of disability, because the Government was cutting disability | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
benefits, saving ?12 billion. Yet we are giving away ?16 billion abroad. | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
People say it is a small sum, but it is not a small sum of other people's | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
money. Let's look at Pakistan, that shows the whole problem, which is | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
you pour money into a place which is badly run, when no-one in Parliament | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
is even paying taxes, and you give them free money of the scale that | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
Britain and America is giving to Pakistan, and it takes away the | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
incentive for them to actually set up a proper taxation system and | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
deliver decent public services themselves. That is the whole | :09:20. | :09:22. | |
problem, it gets to the core of it, you can look at a nice school funded | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
by British aid and say it is wonderful, but you are undermining | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
the democratic development and fuelling the very corruption which | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
creates the state. The counterargument to that, it is not, | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
let's be nice to people, it is sometimes that this is hard | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
politics, this is about buying influence in places like Pakistan, | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
Nigeria and elsewhere, and that may be unpalatable, because people think | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
they are doing good, but the idea is very realpolitik. And Justine | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
Greening, the minister responsible, her defence is, and I think you made | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
some good points which I agree with, but Justine Greening says, and this | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
is a real hard politics thing, a real project pier type thing, we are | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
trying to deal with problems where they exist, rather than waiting for | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
problems to come to us, which is a very veiled message. I wonder what | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
she has in mind as I cause a macro frankly, it is not helpful, they | :10:21. | :10:27. | |
should look at these examples and deal with them. -- I wonder what she | :10:28. | :10:36. | |
has in mind(!) The final word on this. They have got this fixed | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
target to throw money at the door, they have to find ways to spend the | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
money, and all they are doing is exacerbating the problems they seek | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
to... I have seen this all over the world, in Africa, Asia, the | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
Caribbean. The problems we are feeling and contributing to, rather | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
than solving. It is interesting, and my piece, I have done a comment | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
piece in here, and I understand that George Osborne was asked at a | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
private dinner, why are you doing this, and he said, simply, to keep | :11:08. | :11:13. | |
the charities off our backs. That is a pretty pointless exercise. The | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
headline says it is the fear of Bob Geldof, that is one of the things in | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
the Mail. Page one of the Telegraph has the other big story, by British | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
to save our steel, ministers tell local authorities. This is very odd, | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
because is our industrial policy for a major strategic industry to tell | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
local councils they have to spend more money on steel than they | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
otherwise would do? They already have a strategy for doing that, | :11:38. | :11:44. | |
councils and the NHS. Councils and the NHS are two of the most cash | :11:45. | :11:50. | |
strapped, needy areas in our society, so it is completely | :11:51. | :11:52. | |
outrageous for the Government to say to them, can you sort out this | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
rather embarrassing perception problem we have at the moment? ?300 | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
billion worth of infrastructure projects which will take place in | :12:02. | :12:04. | |
Britain over the next five years, and that sounds like a big amount of | :12:05. | :12:07. | |
money, that sounds like enough to keep Port Talbot going, all the | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
steel to build new classrooms and operating theatres and everything | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
else. Well, if the steel that is coming from China is a tiny fraction | :12:17. | :12:22. | |
of the price, it would be very difficult for a local authority to | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
spend the money on British steel and then go into the red, not be able to | :12:27. | :12:33. | |
complete. And close the library! Or cut back on services for local | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
disabled people. To save the British steel industry? It is completely | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
wrong-headed. Is this a bit of thrashing around? It is difficult | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
for any government to sort out. It is a difficult situation where they | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
are struggling to control the agenda. They have looked a bit off | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
the pace on this issue, and it is the last refuge of the scoundrel, | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
almost, to say, by British, please, please! People should buy the best | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
steel available at the best price, and the guv Mata should be more | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
honest and point out that the fact that British steel is not | :13:07. | :13:16. | |
competitive. -- the Government. They should help the steelworkers, but | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
there is a perception problem, Sajid Javid was not around, they did not | :13:22. | :13:28. | |
have any meetings with Tata Steel, and they want to get a headline out | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
of it, they want to deal with it. Young whole Ski-Doo Brexit, usual | :13:33. | :13:49. | |
health warnings here! -- hold key to Brexit. I am sceptical about the | :13:50. | :13:56. | |
polls, because the most detailed shows that happen next remain is | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
probably ahead. The interesting thing they packed the Leave picked | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
up on is the difference between young and old. -- shows that Remain | :14:06. | :14:13. | |
is probably ahead. They know the generation coming through is | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
comfortable with the European ideal, comfortable with travelling to | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
Europe, and despite the obvious problems of Europe, whether | :14:21. | :14:23. | |
financial or the immigration issue, you have this generational change, | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
and it is like the last gasp... Where it is now or never. If they do | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
not get it now, it is less likely, and the other dynamic is that old | :14:33. | :14:38. | |
people are more likely to vote, and this is a problem. And as we know | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
from polls in other countries, referenda in other countries, people | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
are more conservative if they are undecided, stick with what they | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
know. David Cameron gave an interview to the Independent on | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
Sunday pointing out that voter apathy will be the biggest problem | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
for the Remain campaign, because if people do not vote, as we saw with | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
the Scottish referendum, it was very close because of voter apathy, | :15:06. | :15:09. | |
because people thought, we are all right as we are, I don't need to do | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
anything about it. This is a super generalisation, but young people are | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
less likely to go out and vote, so even though it is a last hurrah for | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
the Leave campaign, they do need to engage the young people who perhaps | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
are aware of this but do not feel that their voice needs to be heard. | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
I wonder if people who are Remain voters will stay at home because | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
they are more relaxed about it. That is a problem. The other interesting | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
thing in this story is the stuff about Jeremy Corbyn, where it shows | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
that the public do not know where he stands on it, which is pretty | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
amazing for the leader of the main opposition party in a referendum on | :15:51. | :15:56. | |
such a big subject for the country. The public do not know where he | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
stands, and that is very telling, an indictment of his stewardship. Do | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
they know that Alan Johnson is the main voice for Labour? Is very | :16:05. | :16:11. | |
popular within the party. Is the greatest leader they never had. The | :16:12. | :16:16. | |
strife in Labour has taken a back-seat with all the other news | :16:17. | :16:19. | |
going on at the moment, but there is still a problem that Jeremy Corbyn | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
is not comfortable with this, no-one knows where he stands, so he has | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
got... We have got a minute and a half left for the Sunday Times, they | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
welled in saying the rise of women drive is meant to change sex. She is | :16:34. | :16:38. | |
a great star of things, is she having a laugh? This comes after the | :16:39. | :16:44. | |
Ian McEwan story, and we are seeing elderly authors having problems with | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
the emerging world of identity politics and social politics, | :16:50. | :16:51. | |
struggling to understand what is happening. But equally, it is | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
obviously a silly thing she said, the headline about men changing sex | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
because women have won the Battle of the sexes. Underneath it, she is | :17:02. | :17:04. | |
saying some quite interesting things about why we need role models | :17:05. | :17:08. | |
anyway. It is not entirely frivolous, although she has got the | :17:09. | :17:11. | |
headline she wanted by saying something silly. Also, we do see a | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
lot of elderly authors struggling with issues coming through now. | :17:16. | :17:25. | |
Transgender politics is a huge subject, on EastEnders, we have at | :17:26. | :17:28. | |
Caitlyn Jenner, it has informed the debate about sexual politics. This | :17:29. | :17:34. | |
lack of understanding leads to this sort of headline, with, the greatest | :17:35. | :17:40. | |
respect for Fay Weldon as an author, but as a commentator and sexual | :17:41. | :17:46. | |
politics, she should be quiet. On that note, thank you! We will take a | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
look at tomorrow's front pages every evening at 10:30 and right here on | :17:53. | :17:54. | |
BBC News. | :17:55. | :17:58. |