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Hello and welcome to our look at what the papers will bring tomorrow.

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With me the broadcaster Julia Hartley Brewer and political

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commentator Lance Price. We start with Donald Trump looking likely to

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secure the Republican nomination, David Cameron says he would

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apologise for calling him stupid divisive and wrong. The Metro leads

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with what they call a barbecue punch-up when a policeman allegedly

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punched his Chief Constable after finding out he was having an affair

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with his wife. New Day has an image of the Syrian child with the report

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of the announcement by the Prime Minister today that the UK will

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offer to take more children refugees. The Daily Telegraph has a

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story stating that embryos have lived for 13 days, one day short of

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the limit legal, the Daily Express has a story on refugees from Turkey,

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the Times front page is an image of a victorious Donald Trump after he

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became Republican presidential candidate following the Ohio

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governor, John Kasich, pulling out of the race. The Daily Mail praises

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David Cameron for making a U-turn on his decision not to allow 2000

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charge of Jews from Syria to resettle in the UK. Julia, embryo

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research raises pressure for law change. 14 days is the limit to

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which you can grow an embryo in the laboratory. And they got to 13 days.

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It was sad and 14 days, the idea that an embryo cannot split into two

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ins at that point so one single life has been created so there's a

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medical and ethical reason for this. But the view was, think, that he

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would not be able to grow them for this long outside the human womb

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although they have done that. We have scientific and medical

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developments all the time and these are very good. They will save lives

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in the long run. This is similar to the abortion law limit, 24 weeks, at

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which point you don't need a risk to the mother's life, that is done

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because the view was that foetuses could not survive after that stage.

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Now we know they can. 24 weeks, we are seeing babies of 23 weeks

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surviving while and living a healthy life. So we will see all these

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medical developments, these questions being raised, these

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ethical positions. What is important is that these law changes are not

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about what happens in America when you get people like Ted Cruz who has

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just dropped out of the presidential and Asian race, to have their say,

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you get experts, scientists and lawmakers humming together to find

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what feels right to most people. I think there will be a law change,

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done in the right way. Lands, the scientists will say that 14 days is

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not long enough. They haven't so far been held back by the law, it's been

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there for 30 years. That was a long hard look at what was ethically

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right. The scientists were quite content with that. They have not

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been able, as Julia says, to grow an embryo for anything like 14 days

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until recently, this is both a scientific and medical story, an

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interesting one that science has moved that far, as one scientist

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quoted says, it is not just for the scientists to decide, as a society

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we must take an ethical decision. I don't think about at this stage

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anyone is recommending a lengthy commission of the kind that the

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Warnock commission was but parliament will have to tackle this.

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I agree with Julia, I don't like to agree with you! I'll probably

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disagree later! I agree that, thank goodness we can have a rational

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debate about these things in this country. We look at the United

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States, we will discuss American later, if we were in a Fox News

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studio, or any studio... I can't see myself working for Fox News! They

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would be much more heat than light. As an atheist I don't feel the need

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for religious views to come into this. They always do. They get too

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much say on these things. This is about saving lives, during terrible

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diseases, helping with IVF, I have gone through that and I know people

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who could have been saved by medical advances that we are only seeing now

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because of stem cell research. It's an amazing wonderful thing that

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medical experts and scientists are doing. I think a lot of the

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arguments around the beginning of life get in the way of that. As we

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have said, there will be people who will be very opposed to that. But

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should be an interesting discussion in the months ahead. And the times.

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An interesting thing, some would say laudable, Britain beckons child

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refugees. I would question that headline. Bad headline suggests that

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we are enthusiastic about it. -- that headline are just as much.

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Dragged kicking and screaming into red! David Cameron did not want to

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do this. He was faced with almost certain defeat. This amendment was

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proposed by Lord dubs. We know that he himself was rescued from the

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Nazis as a child by the Kindertransport. David Cameron says

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it won't go through this ping-pong process any more and he is accepting

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and reluctantly. Because he had to. A combination of Unionist votes, and

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Tory rebels would have forced him to do it anyway. It's still a

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relatively small number of people, very welcome, although a relatively

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small number of children. Jeremy Corbyn and Labour have said it is

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still not enough. We are talking about 1000 or 2000 extra on top of

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the 3000 already arranged. There is no question at all, David Cameron

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was dragged into this kicking and screaming. I think there are some

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nice headlines. Saying, we need to adopt these children. I think

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everyone wants to do that. We must think of the cost to the children in

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this country. We'll have a massive shortage of foster places from

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British kids. Is a backlog of 800 children for them. We saw the story

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of Kandyce Downer, the legal guardian who killed a child in her

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care because there was a shortage of foster carers. Let's face realities,

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?50,000 is the cost of looking after a child that year, average and is

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worth more than that. We have children who are desperately in

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need, we must be realistic about whether or not the right solution

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will be for these children to be taken away from their family links,

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if they are in France, they are in a safe country, they have no need to

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be in this country. It is what refugee groups talk about, they talk

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about these children being very vulnerable, and accompanied, in

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France... Often suffering terrible physical and sexual abuse. What

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other problems it may create for Britain, they will be much better

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off in Britain than they will be in the countries that they fled from.

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Or in squalid refugee camps. New Day says that Britain is to offer hope

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to loan charge of the Jews. Now the Duchess of Cambridge. A lot of these

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children, we are talking about children who are 15 or 16, these are

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not small children. They do have family links in the UK, they are not

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just random children. We're focusing on New Day because this could be one

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of its last days. On the inside pages of the Guardian they have what

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appears to be well sourced story that Trinity Mirror, the owners of

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this newspaper, will announce that Friday will be the last edition of

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the paper, after only ten weeks. It was a bold experiment. Whether it

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ever stood much chance of success I don't know, whether there was a

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niche for the paper. It looks like a brief flaring up. Not many more new

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days for the New Day. We saw the closure of the Independent,

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wonderful newspaper. I have been writing for the New Day. Perhaps it

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was your fault! The idea was to have more acceptable news, to make it

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more reader friendly, to have my news stories. Perhaps the readers

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don't want that. Punch where are the readers going? Reading online. I

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have younger siblings who never dream of buying a newspaper, they

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think it is fashioned. Some journalists may have had their

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doubts about the format, yet they will still worry that now it is not

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possible to launch in newspaper and what does it say about buying

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habits? How long will we do newspaper reviews? How long will The

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Papers be going? It will do us all out of a job! You can't buy

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newspapers and no you can't review them! Go and buy newspapers! The

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prime list will not apologise The man he called the "Stupid" camp. He

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might have to have injured in a! It looks as if Donald Trump will be

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coming to Britain in August. A lot over Americans living here. Donald

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Trump, sorry, what is his name, David Cameron! Not only did he say

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that he thought Donald Trump's views were divisive and wrong, he clearly

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said, if he came to visit Britain he would unite the country against. I

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think it is the second part of that that will cause or problems than the

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first. Donald Trump would become president of the United States

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unless he moves from his position... The truth is that a lot of people in

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America to like him. As all British prime ministers do, David Cameron

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has welcomed worse people than Donald Trump. And goodness knows

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that I'd despise Donald Trump but when he welcomed the Chinese

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president, and manhole locks up people for dissent en masse, there

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are thousands of people behind bars there, and Saudi kings, with the

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flag lowered to half-mast... Donald Trump sounds great compared to them.

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He is much less stupid and wrong than some of the people we have

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welcomed. On the front page of the Financial Times, Lance, Donald Trump

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is going to have to have a woman as vice president. We will see Donald

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Trump Mark two from tomorrow. He will try suddenly to be

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all-encompassing, welcoming and uniting the party. It just won't

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wash. We've already seen large numbers of Republicans say publicly

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that they leaving the party. Moving to Canada! Some of them to Mexico if

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they can get there before he builds the wall! They'll have to get over

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the wall! Good news for the Democrats although they should not

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one second be complacent because he will fight a vicious campaign. We

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all said he couldn't win the nomination, no way, I have to say

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that I don't think Hillary Clinton has it in the bag. My goodness, I

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hope she has is the better of a bad two. My worry is that if these are

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the best two people that a country of 320 million people confined to

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run the country, and they might deserve one of these two, taxed at

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does the rest of the world? Back to the Daily Telegraph. Women should

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not travel alone, says a Moslem commentator. An extraordinary story.

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This group is affiliated to the Muslim Council of Britain and they

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have been condemned by Justine Greening for being medieval. They

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say women should not travel distance of more 48 miles, without a male

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companion, and they should cover their faces. Frankly not acceptable

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in this day and age. So do women who have only just been allowed to vote

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and still not allowed to drive and have to cover their faces -- Saudi

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Arabian women. Why are we giving this credence? Why do we care?

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Because these are people getting local council funding supposedly

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representing a Moslem community in this area, self appointed men, and

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they are being allowed to propagate. If someone told black people to

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cover their faces, people would be outraged but because it is women...

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! Surely the story should be that council gives money to dodgy Moslem

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group. Sadly, there are many people in this country who seem to think

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that shall I law is actually a viable -- sharia law is actually a

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viable way to live in 21st century Britain and I am afraid it is not.

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The headline implies that they are more significant than they are. A

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bunch of cranks. Affiliated to the British Muslim Council,

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representatives of ordinary people, I don't think they are, if they are

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going to have council funding then they must not have these things.

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Julia, Lance, thank you both for coming in. We will talk about the

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elections tomorrow. Don't forget to vote! You can get away with saying

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that. That is it for The Papers. When more newspaper has arrived,

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leading with a story about successful transplants of organs

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infected with HIV, experts claim that this could mean that more

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healthy organs will be available, bringing fresh hope to patients on

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waiting lists. On the BBC News website, read a more detailed review

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of the papers. It is all there. And you can seek us there as well with

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each night's edition of The Papers posted on the page shortly after we

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have finished. Julia, Lance, thank you, I will see you soon. Thank you,

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goodbye.

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