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Green party thinking that the SNP did not necessarily need their vote. | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
Sarah Smith, thank you, will be coming back to different camps to | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
find out how they are getting on, thank you. Rusher will be coming to | :00:00. | :00:11. | |
different counts to find out how they are getting on, thank you. | :00:12. | :00:21. | |
Welcome to our look at what the papers will be saying tomorrow, with | :00:22. | :00:29. | |
me Iain Beryl and Martin Bentham, the home affairs editor for the | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
Evening Standard. And we will speak to James Miller, Westminster | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
correspondent for the Sunday Post, he joins us from Edinburgh. Good | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
evening. Thank you for joining us. Normally we would look at the front | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
pages but tonight we will go straight in with some of those | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
discussions. Let's start this evening with the Guardian. The story | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
that the doctors, it would seem, are split over the return to the peace | :00:54. | :00:58. | |
talks we have mentioned. Martin. This is the significance story of | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
the day in the health field, that the offer of a five-day balls that | :01:03. | :01:08. | |
was put to Department of Health which initially seemed that it was | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
going to be rejected -- a five-day pause, it looks like it may be | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
accepted with a condition, the BM a committee will have to meet on | :01:20. | :01:22. | |
Saturday to decide whether to go ahead with the talks. The Guardian | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
suggests that they are split about whether to do this. The particular | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
sticking point is this one that the government insists on, Saturday | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
should be a normal working day, and they should not get premium pay. | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
They insist that to be part of these discussions that happen as an | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
attempt to break the deadlock. The junior doctors are apparently, | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
according to this story, split as to whether to go with that or not. It | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
would appear earlier that there was perhaps talk that Jeremy Hunt had | :01:56. | :02:01. | |
changed his mind. He is spinning it well, saying this is an attempt to | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
resolve the problem and if they do this which has been at the centre of | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
some of the controversy, that he has suspended the whole imposition of | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
the contract. He is renowned as a very tough negotiator, one of the | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
toughest in government, probably. This is at least a chance to resolve | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
this strike. The BMA has done very well to keep support going with the | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
public. I was quite surprised by the recent poll showing support for it | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
from the public given that it is a pay dispute dressed as a health | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
issue. James, what are you hearing about the support of a junior | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
doctors, it seems it is remaining steady. Yes although this is cute by | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
Jeremy Hunt. And but like climb-down... It would appear, | :02:45. | :02:52. | |
James, that we have lost it. That is a shame. It is interesting that the | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
support for either side just doesn't seem to have moved much of the last | :02:56. | :03:02. | |
few weeks. It doesn't. There has been some suggestion this might | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
change of the doctors went on an all out strike although they did have | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
that two-day strike which hasn't yet affected their support. Maybe they | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
are conscious of the fact that if they went to the nuclear option of | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
an all out strike that things might change especially if there was some | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
terrible disaster that could be blamed on the consequences of not | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
having full cover and so on. So on one level they might be quite keen, | :03:27. | :03:30. | |
on another there's lots of determination to surrender over what | :03:31. | :03:34. | |
they see as the imposition of unsafe, I agree to an extent it | :03:35. | :03:40. | |
seems to be about pay to a large extent, in particular, I don't think | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
the government will back down unless the Saturday working issue is | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
addressed. This is not the issue they want to fight on. But the | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
problem for the government, the last thing they want is to be embroiled | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
in a major long-running dispute about health. Quite a few | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
concessions and I think there are quite a few more that the doctors | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
want. I suspect the government might give ground on some of them although | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
I don't think they will give ground on this key point. Let me bring back | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
James now we've got him back. We lost you after just a couple of | :04:17. | :04:23. | |
words. Has the Health Secretary been taking an interesting angle on this? | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
Yes, he has insisted that the junior doctors agreed to discuss Saturday | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
working. The junior doctors, which we haven't mentioned yet, talking | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
about this government equality assessment which says the new | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
contract will disadvantage women, especially mothers and single | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
parents. You can't impose a contract which the government 's own | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
assessment says is not fair to women so there is this other issue | :04:52. | :04:54. | |
although support for doctors is strong at the moment, if they refuse | :04:55. | :05:01. | |
to come to the table for any reason that support might waive a bit. They | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
will be a meeting on Saturday which will mark that. Let's stay with the | :05:07. | :05:13. | |
Guardian. It has a story, Assad is being accused of the air strike we | :05:14. | :05:19. | |
heard about this evening on the Syrian refugee camp. Some of the | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
pictures, some have not been verified, yet pretty shocking. They | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
have been horrific, the pictures of the burning tents, what has happened | :05:28. | :05:35. | |
is not clear, it can only be a Russian or Assyrian air strike. It's | :05:36. | :05:42. | |
a refugee camp, clearly there can be no military justification for that | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
type of action. Unfortunately, there have been a few promising signs, | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
with the ceasefire that has taken place in much of Syria that this | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
kind of incident is just a reminder of how big that conflict is. Even | :05:57. | :06:03. | |
after five years of conflict which has disrupted after people in the | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
country 4 million people have left and we are still getting new | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
horrific twists which are shocking. We've had five or six hospitals or | :06:12. | :06:14. | |
clinics attacked last week in Aleppo which makes it clear that Assad and | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
his Russian allies are determined to do anything to win even if that | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
means obliterating the last few doctors and people trying to treat | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
patients. To bomb the camp is one more outrage. Which is the depths to | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
which the regime is going to pulverise the opposition and win at | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
any cost. Briefly, James, other papers in Scotland covering much of | :06:38. | :06:47. | |
this, do they claim Assad is behind the rates? I would love to reply but | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
I haven't seen any of the Scottish papers yet! They must be saving | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
themselves for tomorrow. There's a big story here that will dominate | :06:56. | :07:02. | |
the papers indeed. Now we can go live to Cardiff. Our correspondent | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
James Williams is at the count. It's already started, I am assuming? Yes, | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
absolutely and has, and we are expecting a very different night in | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
Wales to what our friends in Scotland expect. We shared a lot | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
with our Celtic cousins although not modern politics because Wales is | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
still very much Labour country, Labour has been the biggest part in | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
the assembly since devolution, in 1999, they formed the government | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
every time, they've got a 17 year and interrupted record on running | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
the NHS, -- non-interrupted record, and running the economy and because | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
of that record the expect a relatively difficult night night. | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
They currently have 30 of the 60 seats in the SEnedd. If you go back | :07:52. | :08:03. | |
further than knives could be out for the world leader Carwyn Jones. So | :08:04. | :08:06. | |
which of the opposition parties will benefit most from the Labour losses? | :08:07. | :08:13. | |
They could increase the number of seats they have in the Senedd in | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
every election but will they suffer from internal EU referendum strife | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
or could they built on the momentum they built up during the general | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
election last year when they still some seats from Labour in the gala | :08:27. | :08:32. | |
-- when they sneaked some seats from Labour in some areas? Those seats | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
could turn blue tonight. Other seats to watch as Cardiff North, the Vale | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
of Glamorgan, and Wrexham, in north-east Wales. As for Plaid | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
Cymru, they can only look enviously at their sister party, the SNP in | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
Scotland because the Nationalists in Wales are currently in third place | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
and according to the polls and discussions are fired tonight with | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
party officials, their best bet is potentially taking second place just | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
ahead of the Tories. They've called themselves the government in waiting | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
throughout the campaign but that seems fanciful at the present time. | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
Big battles for them, their leader, Leanne Wood, taking on a big Welsh | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
Labour beast, Cabinet Minister Leighton Andrews in the Rhondda. Can | :09:19. | :09:21. | |
she make in droves into the Labour strongholds? And learn the which has | :09:22. | :09:29. | |
been seesawing back between Plaid Cymru and Labour -- levy. As for the | :09:30. | :09:32. | |
Lib Dems, it's all about survival, how many of their five members will | :09:33. | :09:40. | |
be returned? Another story is the presence of the Ukip party for the | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
first time in the Senedd. A dash of purple to the political palate. They | :09:45. | :09:51. | |
are expecting at least five regional seats, potentially up to seven. We | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
expect the hang assembly with Labour the biggest party and Willie have | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
enough seats to go it alone will have to form a coalition? There's | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
been one parliamentary by-election in Wales today for the Ogmore seat | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
which is returned a Labour MP in every single election since 1918 and | :10:09. | :10:11. | |
we're not expecting that to change tonight. James Williams, in Cardiff, | :10:12. | :10:18. | |
thank you. Back to the papers reveal. The Financial Times. An | :10:19. | :10:24. | |
interesting story, Ian, it says that there are these terrible wildfires | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
in Canada, they could increase petrol prices and they are already. | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
The pictures have been very dramatic. We've seen astonishing | :10:34. | :10:48. | |
pictures of the whole city forced to evacuate, 25,000 people airlifted | :10:49. | :10:50. | |
out and they say it is so severe that it will put up oil prices which | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
says something. Oil prices have been creeping up. This would suggest that | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
because of this this could have a significant effect. It could be so. | :11:03. | :11:10. | |
Is suspected to be relatively marginal in the big scheme of | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
things. The story, I suppose ultimately is the human disaster. | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
All those people having to move and not being able to get back to their | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
homes on the fire is raging to this extent. A big test for the new Prime | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
Minister. His first big test domestically. Will come back to | :11:29. | :11:35. | |
James in a moment. The other main Financial Times story says most EU | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
citizens in the UK would not meet work visa rules. This has been done | :11:42. | :11:48. | |
by Oxford University, this research. But the main thrust of the argument, | :11:49. | :11:53. | |
they are tackling certain sectors. They have done their own study. This | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
is a very reputable body, says essentially that three out of four | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
of the people working here would not meet the visa requirements for | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
non-EU workers if Britain left the European Union. However, it's a bit | :12:08. | :12:13. | |
of a scare story. Because it implies -- implies that it will come | :12:14. | :12:21. | |
straight home, it makes it clear that people here will be able to | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
carry on working and there will be a new negotiated settlement which | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
would allow for some toing and froing. It's interesting and a | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
little quirky but I don't think it is the best story they've ever had | :12:33. | :12:40. | |
on this! Martin? I agree. The people who are here will probably be able | :12:41. | :12:50. | |
to stay legally even if the country wants to remove them. In a Brexit | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
scenario I don't think there will be a great desire to object all non-EU | :12:56. | :13:01. | |
citizens, it's a bit fanciful. And all the British coming back from | :13:02. | :13:08. | |
Spain! And of course we can set our own Visa regime and adapted so if we | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
want people here, and if we want to recruit more people to fill those | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
low skilled jobs, we can. James, European migration and the | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
referendum coming up, on people's minds today during the voting. It's | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
quite a story. The key is that we don't know what the rules would be | :13:29. | :13:35. | |
if Britain left the EU. It is not likely that we would suddenly throw | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
out all these people! The nature of the work force is that we will | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
constantly need more people to replace them. And there's no clarity | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
about the way that would work. This is the migration observatory. These | :13:52. | :13:57. | |
are not the usual suspects. Not anti-EU crackpots, very respectable | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
organisation, there is more to this than the others are suggesting. Will | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
agree to disagree. Let's go to Newcastle. We have our | :14:08. | :14:13. | |
correspondent, Richard Moss, at the count. Newcastle might be one of the | :14:14. | :14:20. | |
first to declare. Yes, they are in a race with Sunderland. A rivalry | :14:21. | :14:23. | |
between these two cities and football and whether they can count | :14:24. | :14:28. | |
the votes quickly enough. No real threat to Labour control, yet in a | :14:29. | :14:33. | |
way the north-east symbolises Jeremy Corbyn's big problem as leader | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
because there's nothing left to gain. Take South Tyneside. Labour | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
hold 52 of the 54 seats in the council, not much left for them to | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
win, they to be shot at, challenges for the parties, the Lib Dems used | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
to run the council, there be looking to stop the haemorrhaging of seats | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
in the region in the last couple of years, the damage done by the | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
coalition is, for the Tories they've got ambitions in Carlisle to remove | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
the Labour control of the council. And here they have limited | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
ambitions, they want to win a seat. They haven't had a seat on Newcastle | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
City Council for 20 years. They are desperate to get one back. The Ukip | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
target is Hartlepool because they believe they can get good results | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
there. They've got two or three targeted seats. There's not much to | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
gain full Labour and there's plenty to lose. Thank you, we will wait to | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
teach as the first count comes in. Thank you for that. Sadly that is it | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
for The Papers. We'll be back at 11th and EPM. Thanks to Ian and | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
Martin and to James in Edinburgh. Coming about it 11 o'clock we'll | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
have more about the elections as the counting gets under way. First, the | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
weather with Nick Miller. The much advertised warm at this | :15:47. | :16:01. | |
under way as temperatures in | :16:02. | :16:02. |