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Green party thinking that the SNP did not necessarily need their vote.


Sarah Smith, thank you, will be coming back to different camps to


find out how they are getting on, thank you. Rusher will be coming to


different counts to find out how they are getting on, thank you.


Welcome to our look at what the papers will be saying tomorrow, with


me Iain Beryl and Martin Bentham, the home affairs editor for the


Evening Standard. And we will speak to James Miller, Westminster


correspondent for the Sunday Post, he joins us from Edinburgh. Good


evening. Thank you for joining us. Normally we would look at the front


pages but tonight we will go straight in with some of those


discussions. Let's start this evening with the Guardian. The story


that the doctors, it would seem, are split over the return to the peace


talks we have mentioned. Martin. This is the significance story of


the day in the health field, that the offer of a five-day balls that


was put to Department of Health which initially seemed that it was


going to be rejected -- a five-day pause, it looks like it may be


accepted with a condition, the BM a committee will have to meet on


Saturday to decide whether to go ahead with the talks. The Guardian


suggests that they are split about whether to do this. The particular


sticking point is this one that the government insists on, Saturday


should be a normal working day, and they should not get premium pay.


They insist that to be part of these discussions that happen as an


attempt to break the deadlock. The junior doctors are apparently,


according to this story, split as to whether to go with that or not. It


would appear earlier that there was perhaps talk that Jeremy Hunt had


changed his mind. He is spinning it well, saying this is an attempt to


resolve the problem and if they do this which has been at the centre of


some of the controversy, that he has suspended the whole imposition of


the contract. He is renowned as a very tough negotiator, one of the


toughest in government, probably. This is at least a chance to resolve


this strike. The BMA has done very well to keep support going with the


public. I was quite surprised by the recent poll showing support for it


from the public given that it is a pay dispute dressed as a health


issue. James, what are you hearing about the support of a junior


doctors, it seems it is remaining steady. Yes although this is cute by


Jeremy Hunt. And but like climb-down... It would appear,


James, that we have lost it. That is a shame. It is interesting that the


support for either side just doesn't seem to have moved much of the last


few weeks. It doesn't. There has been some suggestion this might


change of the doctors went on an all out strike although they did have


that two-day strike which hasn't yet affected their support. Maybe they


are conscious of the fact that if they went to the nuclear option of


an all out strike that things might change especially if there was some


terrible disaster that could be blamed on the consequences of not


having full cover and so on. So on one level they might be quite keen,


on another there's lots of determination to surrender over what


they see as the imposition of unsafe, I agree to an extent it


seems to be about pay to a large extent, in particular, I don't think


the government will back down unless the Saturday working issue is


addressed. This is not the issue they want to fight on. But the


problem for the government, the last thing they want is to be embroiled


in a major long-running dispute about health. Quite a few


concessions and I think there are quite a few more that the doctors


want. I suspect the government might give ground on some of them although


I don't think they will give ground on this key point. Let me bring back


James now we've got him back. We lost you after just a couple of


words. Has the Health Secretary been taking an interesting angle on this?


Yes, he has insisted that the junior doctors agreed to discuss Saturday


working. The junior doctors, which we haven't mentioned yet, talking


about this government equality assessment which says the new


contract will disadvantage women, especially mothers and single


parents. You can't impose a contract which the government 's own


assessment says is not fair to women so there is this other issue


although support for doctors is strong at the moment, if they refuse


to come to the table for any reason that support might waive a bit. They


will be a meeting on Saturday which will mark that. Let's stay with the


Guardian. It has a story, Assad is being accused of the air strike we


heard about this evening on the Syrian refugee camp. Some of the


pictures, some have not been verified, yet pretty shocking. They


have been horrific, the pictures of the burning tents, what has happened


is not clear, it can only be a Russian or Assyrian air strike. It's


a refugee camp, clearly there can be no military justification for that


type of action. Unfortunately, there have been a few promising signs,


with the ceasefire that has taken place in much of Syria that this


kind of incident is just a reminder of how big that conflict is. Even


after five years of conflict which has disrupted after people in the


country 4 million people have left and we are still getting new


horrific twists which are shocking. We've had five or six hospitals or


clinics attacked last week in Aleppo which makes it clear that Assad and


his Russian allies are determined to do anything to win even if that


means obliterating the last few doctors and people trying to treat


patients. To bomb the camp is one more outrage. Which is the depths to


which the regime is going to pulverise the opposition and win at


any cost. Briefly, James, other papers in Scotland covering much of


this, do they claim Assad is behind the rates? I would love to reply but


I haven't seen any of the Scottish papers yet! They must be saving


themselves for tomorrow. There's a big story here that will dominate


the papers indeed. Now we can go live to Cardiff. Our correspondent


James Williams is at the count. It's already started, I am assuming? Yes,


absolutely and has, and we are expecting a very different night in


Wales to what our friends in Scotland expect. We shared a lot


with our Celtic cousins although not modern politics because Wales is


still very much Labour country, Labour has been the biggest part in


the assembly since devolution, in 1999, they formed the government


every time, they've got a 17 year and interrupted record on running


the NHS, -- non-interrupted record, and running the economy and because


of that record the expect a relatively difficult night night.


They currently have 30 of the 60 seats in the SEnedd. If you go back


further than knives could be out for the world leader Carwyn Jones. So


which of the opposition parties will benefit most from the Labour losses?


They could increase the number of seats they have in the Senedd in


every election but will they suffer from internal EU referendum strife


or could they built on the momentum they built up during the general


election last year when they still some seats from Labour in the gala


-- when they sneaked some seats from Labour in some areas? Those seats


could turn blue tonight. Other seats to watch as Cardiff North, the Vale


of Glamorgan, and Wrexham, in north-east Wales. As for Plaid


Cymru, they can only look enviously at their sister party, the SNP in


Scotland because the Nationalists in Wales are currently in third place


and according to the polls and discussions are fired tonight with


party officials, their best bet is potentially taking second place just


ahead of the Tories. They've called themselves the government in waiting


throughout the campaign but that seems fanciful at the present time.


Big battles for them, their leader, Leanne Wood, taking on a big Welsh


Labour beast, Cabinet Minister Leighton Andrews in the Rhondda. Can


she make in droves into the Labour strongholds? And learn the which has


been seesawing back between Plaid Cymru and Labour -- levy. As for the


Lib Dems, it's all about survival, how many of their five members will


be returned? Another story is the presence of the Ukip party for the


first time in the Senedd. A dash of purple to the political palate. They


are expecting at least five regional seats, potentially up to seven. We


expect the hang assembly with Labour the biggest party and Willie have


enough seats to go it alone will have to form a coalition? There's


been one parliamentary by-election in Wales today for the Ogmore seat


which is returned a Labour MP in every single election since 1918 and


we're not expecting that to change tonight. James Williams, in Cardiff,


thank you. Back to the papers reveal. The Financial Times. An


interesting story, Ian, it says that there are these terrible wildfires


in Canada, they could increase petrol prices and they are already.


The pictures have been very dramatic. We've seen astonishing


pictures of the whole city forced to evacuate, 25,000 people airlifted


out and they say it is so severe that it will put up oil prices which


says something. Oil prices have been creeping up. This would suggest that


because of this this could have a significant effect. It could be so.


Is suspected to be relatively marginal in the big scheme of


things. The story, I suppose ultimately is the human disaster.


All those people having to move and not being able to get back to their


homes on the fire is raging to this extent. A big test for the new Prime


Minister. His first big test domestically. Will come back to


James in a moment. The other main Financial Times story says most EU


citizens in the UK would not meet work visa rules. This has been done


by Oxford University, this research. But the main thrust of the argument,


they are tackling certain sectors. They have done their own study. This


is a very reputable body, says essentially that three out of four


of the people working here would not meet the visa requirements for


non-EU workers if Britain left the European Union. However, it's a bit


of a scare story. Because it implies -- implies that it will come


straight home, it makes it clear that people here will be able to


carry on working and there will be a new negotiated settlement which


would allow for some toing and froing. It's interesting and a


little quirky but I don't think it is the best story they've ever had


on this! Martin? I agree. The people who are here will probably be able


to stay legally even if the country wants to remove them. In a Brexit


scenario I don't think there will be a great desire to object all non-EU


citizens, it's a bit fanciful. And all the British coming back from


Spain! And of course we can set our own Visa regime and adapted so if we


want people here, and if we want to recruit more people to fill those


low skilled jobs, we can. James, European migration and the


referendum coming up, on people's minds today during the voting. It's


quite a story. The key is that we don't know what the rules would be


if Britain left the EU. It is not likely that we would suddenly throw


out all these people! The nature of the work force is that we will


constantly need more people to replace them. And there's no clarity


about the way that would work. This is the migration observatory. These


are not the usual suspects. Not anti-EU crackpots, very respectable


organisation, there is more to this than the others are suggesting. Will


agree to disagree. Let's go to Newcastle. We have our


correspondent, Richard Moss, at the count. Newcastle might be one of the


first to declare. Yes, they are in a race with Sunderland. A rivalry


between these two cities and football and whether they can count


the votes quickly enough. No real threat to Labour control, yet in a


way the north-east symbolises Jeremy Corbyn's big problem as leader


because there's nothing left to gain. Take South Tyneside. Labour


hold 52 of the 54 seats in the council, not much left for them to


win, they to be shot at, challenges for the parties, the Lib Dems used


to run the council, there be looking to stop the haemorrhaging of seats


in the region in the last couple of years, the damage done by the


coalition is, for the Tories they've got ambitions in Carlisle to remove


the Labour control of the council. And here they have limited


ambitions, they want to win a seat. They haven't had a seat on Newcastle


City Council for 20 years. They are desperate to get one back. The Ukip


target is Hartlepool because they believe they can get good results


there. They've got two or three targeted seats. There's not much to


gain full Labour and there's plenty to lose. Thank you, we will wait to


teach as the first count comes in. Thank you for that. Sadly that is it


for The Papers. We'll be back at 11th and EPM. Thanks to Ian and


Martin and to James in Edinburgh. Coming about it 11 o'clock we'll


have more about the elections as the counting gets under way. First, the


weather with Nick Miller. The much advertised warm at this


under way as temperatures in


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