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suspicions of Mr Witcher. She has turned her attention to another

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real-life Victorian murder case for her latest book, the Wicket Boy. --

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wicked. With me are the Iraqi-British

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journalist Mina Al-Oraibi, and the Political Columnist

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for The Independent Steve Richards. Tomorrow's front pages,

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starting with... The Metro reports on what it calls

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a 'security blunder' at Old Trafford, after the discovery

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of a training device led to Manchester United's

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match being abandoned. A disappointed pair of United fans

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is the image on the Guardian, which also reports on fears

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of a shortage of armed The Telegraph also focuses

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on the bomb scare in Manchester and also has a picture of the Queen

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at the 90th birthday party. The backlash facing Boris Johnson

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for his comments about Hitler and EU And sticking with the referendum,

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the Express claims three point two billion pounds is spent

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on educating children from the EU -- three 2p. -- three 2p. A mix of

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stories tomorrow, and a bit of a scramble as well, for many editors

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and newsrooms tonight. Trying to get the latest information on the

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Manchester United game? Sunday afternoon is normally a quiet time.

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Everyone is winding down! This was busy because it was one of those

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stories where you have vivid pictures a high drama, of... I think

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it is the first time a premiership football match has been stopped out

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of fear of a security risk. Then you have the unravelling of what was the

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cause of it. Later on, some of the additions were still like the

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Telegraph headline, footballs bomb scare sparks Euro 2016 fears,

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referring to the championship, not France. Now it has been established

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it was completely innocent. They had to really work hard to get to that?

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Let's have a look at The Guardian newspaper, I would imagine some of

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the pictures have changed, there is a picture here they sobbing fan,

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hugged by his dad. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't if you want the

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emergency services... The pictures could have been so different. It

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could have been, it is an emotive picture to have this little boy

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crying, you can imagine the sadness and frustration for the little boy

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but you can imagine the relief of the father that they are OK. They

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had to come you have no choice, if there is a suspect package you have

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to take that measure. This is what I mean, they would have been OK if it

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was a real bomb? The emergency services reacted quickly tonight.

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They did Saint 5000 people were evacuated, there was no getting hurt

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or panic, but the person in charge of the device, they got rid of it

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somewhere in the stadium, after the drill of last week, -- 75,000.

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Manchester was, last week, the Centre of what it would be like if

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there was a mass scale attack from extremist terrorists. You have the

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remainder of the device, there would be questions asked of the person who

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disposed of it, it is ridiculous. But the photo is telling, it did

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scare people, you can imagine those moments when they say it is code

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red. It works on so many elements, I heard an interview coming in this

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evening with someone who had come from Australia or something to watch

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the match. They now won't be seeing it, in fact it was safe there. You

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have that level, everything with football is hyped up anyway, but

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also you have, we should all have thought about this ever since the

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terrible events in Paris which included a football match being

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disrupted, and international football match, what would happen if

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it ever happened here? It has not today, but what did happen at Old

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Trafford, this is a direct consequence, there is now such a

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fearful attention to any potential threat that this is going to happen

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again. The good thing that it is that than the other side. The Metro

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newspaper's headline is "Security blunder". Many papers are basically

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taking the view that it is a blunder, not a success.

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Retrospectively, some of it seems very silly, you can make a dark

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comedy out of what has happened but I still think it is better that way

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around, I don't know about you, but it is interesting to have the

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debate. It could be dodgy, let's keep them all in here... One of the

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problems is, the terrorists didn't even have to do anything and people

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panic. There is a way is the thing off, you have the Telegraph saying

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"Bomb scare for Euro 2016". No one has done anything and yet they can

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create panic, but better safe than sorry, if you are responsible and

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calling the shots you have all of that pressure. To make sure people

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are say. There will be more headlines in France. I remember

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before the Olympics here, one of the big issues was the terror threat.

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Even though it did not materialise, the fact it was spoken about shows

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it is a constant in all our lives. It is an interesting debate about

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whether the newspapers have it right, but having said that, there

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are more serious blunders after terror attacks, people thought to be

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carrying weapons that word, people thought to be suspects who weren't,

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the authorities get very jittery. It could have been more serious than

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disposing of a device that was used as a training aid. Yes. It could.

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There is no science to dealing with this. There will be mistakes, it was

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a fast moving story. It is interesting is seeing the first

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editions of the papers coming in, they are quickly catching up with

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the whole sequence. This week, it was the cafe in Iraq that was

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bombed, there were real Madrid supporters watching the game and 12

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people died. La Liga, the Spanish league, had at the beginning of

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their game a moment of silence. If you think about it, people around

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the world have to deal with this possible threat. But you are right,

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every time we go somewhere like the cinema or theatre, you think there

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are enough if you dare, security forces should be able to dismantle

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it before you get that far. To have a bomb in place. The threat in Iraq

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is greater than the UK, how do the people in Iraq cope with it every

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day? It becomes a new sense of normal, you have heightened

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security, think about our sense of normal since we've had a taxi in

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2005. It's robust -- attacks in 2005. Iraq is the same. They get on

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with it as if it was OK? Not like it is OK, it wears you down eventually,

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but you take precautions. If you think you will be attacked, you take

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different routes. It is constant readjustment, and at the moment we

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are seeing a decimation of attacks. I've only been to Kabul, I found

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Kabul very tense. Is the same kind of thing, the local people get on

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with it, they are vigilant but get on with it. They love it when they

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see foreigners because it means perhaps you have some trust to be

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there. They know that you're taking a risk to be there and you are

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welcome, that could be the next step. We see stadiums of tighter

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security like Iraq and Afghanistan and Israel, places like that. The

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Daily Telegraph point that way, football bomb scare sparks Euro 2016

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fears... How secure will our stadiums be during 2016? The show,

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you can guarantee security will be intense. It will cost a fortune --

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for sure. People will have to arrive early at the grounds. This has

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happened to a Spurs ticket holder, we are now told that we will get

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e-mails from Spurs, saying to arrive much earlier, your bags will be

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searched and queues will be longer. There is a kind of search bags, but

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these big stadiums with thousands of people coming. It is difficult to

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control this. Do we wanted to go as far as it has done in other

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countries? Where there are armed guards at stadiums and shopping

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centres and cinemas? I agree. Especially in the UK... Then the

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terrorists are winning because we are losing freedom? In the UK we are

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lucky that we do not have to have visible armed police. You see it at

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Heathrow and other airports, but for France, the fact that they have had

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two major incidents in the last 12 months means there is extreme

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pressure on their services, on their police and the army, to be involved.

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I think they've taken it into account, what happened today will

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definitely heightened pressure and people's sense of danger, that this

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could be the case. Shall we move onto other stories? There are some

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others around, this is kind of related. You want to go back to The

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Guardian, there is another story on the front pages, police fear a

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shortage of armed officers. It follows the announcement at the

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start of the year that we will get more armed officers in London, now

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there is a shortage? Yes, it's interesting. You are right, there

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was an announcement of more... How many, 6000? 1500 more, they want

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3000 volunteers because they have two vet them. You might get 1500

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saying they would do it but they have not been vetted. Police

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officers had to volunteer to carry a gun. It's a classic thing, you get

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an announcement and huge headlines about it, all of the rest of it, the

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implementation then takes ages, and clearly it is still not happening at

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the moment. 5647 firearms officers currently in major cities like

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London, that is in The Guardian, but they need more than that? An extra

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1500. It's what you were saying earlier about the balance between

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security and not being so has been transformed whether threat, wherever

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you go there aren't officers. It has been generally accepted you need

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more. I remember when the announcement was made, I don't think

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there was any dispute, I don't think the opposition were saying, what are

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you doing, arming more officers? But there is an announcement and months

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later nothing has happened. According to The Guardian, officers

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answered getting forward to say that they want to do it. The law is, if

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you have to use your firearm in the UK, it is taken very seriously. The

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US has a huge problem that it you use your firearm, police aren't

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always held responsible, here it is stringent. The interview with the

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deputy police constable says they had to make sure that the law

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protects police officers. If they carry a gun, they may have

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to use it. What does it mean for the laws here? And the fears of

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something going wrong? It's interesting, you mentioned America.

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There have been radio debates on this, it is not scientific but very

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much half and half, people are formal protection, some don't want

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to see more guns. If the police arming themselves, the criminals and

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terrorists then arm themselves, that is the big issue in America.

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Politics on the front pages, I say politics, Boris Johnson...

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He is politics! Unfortunately, this is what politics has come down to!

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1-storey dominates, it is The i newspaper, the front page, he is

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under fire for an EU Hitler jibe, and more reaction? -- one story. The

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out campaign has become the focus on him. Certainly in the media, and

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elsewhere. It has been since he Out, nobody knew what he was doing.

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The level of scrutiny in my view committee has not come out of it

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well, he has never been a cabinet minister and had to outside London

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frame an argument over a sustained period of time. Scrutinised hour by

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hour by political opponents and the media, some are synthetic to him. I

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think he is coming out of it badly so far -- sympathetic to him. The

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Hitler thing, he was trying to make an argument about a superstate, a

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European superstate, and arguing that Hitler did it, now this lot are

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trying to do it. Being a journalist he would have known it would have

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taken off in a particular way. I think it is misjudged, I think it is

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a sign that in this desperate bid for winning the headline war they

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are worried they aren't winning it so far, we have had him attacking

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Obama for being half Kenyan, whatever he said about him when he

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was here, this is another example. The argument is valid and

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interesting, I disagree it will become and intimidating superstate,

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but he undermines it, why is he raising Hitler and we are in Ken

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Livingstone territory again? It's a persistent theme, he is dominating

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the campaign and getting front-page attraction, but if he is winning

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over the doubters? I wonder. Some people he is resonating with, and he

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knows it. He is tapping into fear as well as fact, the remain camp are

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becoming just as a motive and passionate, less about fact and more

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about how they desperately feel strongly that we should stay in the

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EU. This is at a time when we are 40 days away, you have undecided voters

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at nearly a third at the moment. According to the polls, but we don't

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know these days. Of course, they are trying to get people are emotional

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and push them out there. It happened for the Scottish referendum? Yes, it

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was a motive towards the end, economic arguments have been laid

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there. Mark Carney came under fire as governor of the Bank of England

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and getting involved. It is a miscalculation from Boris Johnson

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saying that the EU is like Hitler and Napoleon, the idea is that the

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Remain Campaign is all about the EU, it is crucial for peace. His

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colleagues arguments, and his argument, is that it is hot off the

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back of the Remain Campaign, putting it into historical context as well.

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That is why the referendum is bonkers, frankly, there's another 40

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days of this, there will be another thing tomorrow, you will be ?30,000

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a year worse off, or ?30,000 better off if we stay... The whole thing is

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hyped up, there are so many bigger issues facing Britain and what

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should be on the front pages. And we are having a debate about Hitler and

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the superstate? Thank you very much for taking us

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through the newspapers. And thank you for tuning in, join us

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at 11:30pm for our second round. Now, it

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