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Welcome to look ahead to what the papers will be bringing tomorrow.

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Welcome back both of you. The front pages, the EgyptAir flight seeing

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the terrorist attack is the most likely cause. The Telegraph says a

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fool privacy law has been created after the Supreme Court ruled an

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injunction with the married celebrity can stand. The metal beads

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with the report of Britain Richard Osman who is feared to have died in

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the plane crash. The Guardian says 100 new child sex abuse cases are

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being referred to the police every month. Fears over aviation safety in

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the wake of the EgyptAir disaster. And the times charts the final

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movements of the flight. And the FT leads with the German

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company Bayer making a takeover bid for the agricultural company

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Monsanto. And let's begin with how the times

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are reporting this plane crash because a very shocking headline,

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passengers spinning to their deaths. Terrorists suspected. And then it

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talks about this strange manoeuvre that the plane seems to make. This

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is a really horrific story. You don't want to jump to premature

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conclusions but like lots of people are now seeing, it looks like it

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possibly could have been mechanical but the likelihood is a terrorist

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problem, more likely. Incredibly distressing, 66 people on board and

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the thing I think people will be looking at is the fact that Egypt's

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has had already issues with security, there was a plane and the

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issue of a man directing a flight which eventually led to Cyprus but

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it was from Egypt. There are one issues about security in Egypt and

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the US use and I think one of the worries is that Egypt is a country

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that really relies on to those and that will be draining away,

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something that you only will make it more susceptible to terrorist

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attacks. The whole thing is deeply worrying. You wonder why they stuck

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their necks out and said it was a terrorist attack when Elliott and

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the day they seems to have found some wreckage and others said they

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haven't. It is upsetting as it is for family and friends? At this

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point nobody knows and as far as we can tell there is a plane in the sea

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but you interviewed an expert and he said earlier on, how do you tell if

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a particular piece of wreckage that you find in the sea is from the

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plane which has disappeared today or from another plane or something else

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completely. It was the Egyptian Minister who was giving a press

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conference this afternoon saying we think it is probably a terror attack

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rather than mechanical failure at this point. Presumably he is basing

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that on some kind of expertise. Maybe mechanical failure would mean

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communication... They don't want to look like they are somehow

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complacent in terms of trying to suppress the fact it is a terrorist

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attack. All the early evidence is pointing to that and the air that

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the stage where they don't want to look as if they are covering it up.

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Let's look at the Guardian. Huge scale of child sex abuse shocks

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police. 100 new cases every month referred for investigation. In

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Australia when they have this commission, they had so many people

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come forward and it looks like it could be the same here. The police

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officer in charge predicts that by 2020 the police will be

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investigating 200,000 cases of historic child sex abuse. It makes

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you wonder that the police will have time to do anything else by that

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time, especially given cuts and police budgets. This enquiry is a

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statutory enquiry with power to bring witnesses. It is a big deal.

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Obviously a couple of false starts when British cheer people resigned

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because they felt they were close to institutions and individuals who

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might be being investigated. We now have Zealander in charge and it

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seems to be full throttle. What this is highlighting is that for decades

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we had a culture of victims, particularly young victims, not

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being believed and so not coming forward. What we are going to have

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to see is a big cultural shift in terms of... It has been happening in

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terms of how the police deal with these cases and how the criminal

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justice system deals with these cases but quite often, it has been

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somebody any position of authority and power and normally a young

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person who has been unclear or who is vulnerable, there has been a lot

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of power play, but the classic feature has been the victim not

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being believed and that will have to be a big cultural shift. And it

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would imply people feel more confident about coming forward. The

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Daily Telegraph, judges create UK privacy law. This is the Supreme

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Court upholding an injunction against a celebrity. Here we have a

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ruling from these judges that the injunction should stand which is not

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what the newspaper wanted. Why does that it to the creation of a law?

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Because the Supreme Court, and the clue is in the name, what they say

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is law until another Supreme Court decision or parliamentary decision,

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an act of Parliament overrules it, so once these judges have spoken,

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the word is law and what it said in the leading judgment today was that

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the privacy of the individual should trump... They are two writes in the

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European rights Convention which are competing, the right to freedom of

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expression in the right to privacy and family law. The judge said that

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the right to privacy is trumps the right to freedom of expression

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unless there is a public office which can't be properly taken out,

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somebody in the public eye who can do their job properly because of

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what is going on because of their private life, or if they have

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created a misconception in the public mind about their private

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life. Some people might say that getting married, as this coupled

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dead, creates an impression on the public mind that they will be

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faithful to each other. But privacy and the right to a family life, who

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is to codify what shapes that family life because people do all sorts of

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things. I think personally society has moved on and we are not that

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interested in these kinds of stories. Newspapers sell as a result

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of it. I think what is interesting is whether UK politicians will want

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to change their sense that you because we had a huge brouhaha over

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leathers and a couple of years ago. One of the things that came out of

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that was the working to keep this type of law away from statute and

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Parliament, so it will be interesting to see whether they be

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asked to go back and amend that because you could open it up to

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other press regulation coming in and that would open up a row. The other

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thing that is significant is this only applies in England and Wales

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and in Scotland, for example, the original injunction and it doesn't

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apply so anyone can find out. And that is one of the great

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distinctions in the sense you have broadcasters, newspapers playing by

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the rules, but then there is jurisdiction beyond that in terms of

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digital, and that is where the law is very difficult to enforce and

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privacy. We could talk about this longer but we must move on. Let's go

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back to the times, the Shadow Minister for Europe called a voter

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racist and she has had to come out very quickly with an apology. I

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can't personally explain why. I think there are two rules of

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politics at the moment, don't talk about Hitler and adored Colville

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says Rhesus. That is quite basic. -- don't call voters racist. These are

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the two camps and it will get heated and ugly in the remaining weeks. The

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The main campaign are focusing on jobs and growth and the economy.

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People are focusing on the economy and it is really ramping up. Pat

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Glass has been caught out, the resource such thing as off the

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record if you are politician and Gordon Byron famously learned that.

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-- Gordon Brown. Emily Thornberry lost her position in the shadow can

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do it because of the treat. We have to be able to have sensible

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discussion about immigration without it either feeling into dog whistle

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racism but at the same time not dismissing fears about racism. The

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person she spoke to said was a horrible racist and never wanted

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comeback. She said she was talking about a particular family, not

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immigrants entirely. This voter was talking and apparently about a local

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family believes to be on benefits. As if that is some kind of crime in

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and of itself. I think it is interesting, this is the third time

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that a prominent Labour politician has been caught out effectively

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smearing at the voters that the support to be representing. They

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seemed to be sneering at the house with a flag of St George when

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campaigning against Ukip, Gordon Brown with the bigoted woman, and

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now Pat Glass, and the Labour Party in particular need to use the

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phrase, get a grip, on how... Can I say in hard defence, I don't think

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anyone can question how working-class background is. But

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just to put that in another perspective, I spoke two days ago to

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Nigel Farage, a perfectly reasonable debate, and he took it into an early

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on immigration which had a nasty racial undertone, so both sides have

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got to be quite careful. He isn't here to explain what he meant so I

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will move on. The Guardian, a group of celebrities on the front page,

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most of them actors and actresses, or they are all actors. Vivian

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Westwood and Hillary Mantell, why are they on the only front-page?

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They have written a letter to the Daily Telegraph in favour of

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remaining in the European Union and as the Telegraph front-page's story

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points out, that might not have the effect that they want it to have,

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because the views of so-called luvvies may have great currency in

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Metropolitan London but out in the real world, the places Pat Glass is

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going back to, wherever they are, people can be quite contrary about

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being told what to do by people with lots of money. Or might they look at

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these people and say they trust them as much as a politician. You have

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people like Ian Botham coming out, but the serious business case and

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the creative industries in this country are doing really well in

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Britain and they rely on that and do well around the world but

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particularly the European market, so I think Bill is probably a business

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case they are alluding to. Most of the cultural traffic economically as

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transatlantic. Finally, back to the Muirfield when in's members ban.

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This is the golf club that has said that the carry on insisting they

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will not let women become members, they can just be guests visitors and

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now Peter Alice has agreed with them! It is depressing and they need

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to move on. -- Peter Alliss. You have a situation with a female First

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Minister and the reason they give is the said women golfers play too

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slowly and with the room lunch. Come on! That was the rationale from the

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club. I think Peter Alliss has said... Insisting they would never

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want to pay the fees anyway, these women! These women! I love it! My

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view on this simple, it is a private club and that its members want to

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keep women out, just as if a female club wanted to keep men out, that is

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their right. It is not a decision agree with, it is a decision I

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object to, but that is the right, and if then the nation wants to take

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the open away from them that is the thing to do. And that is the right

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thing to do. As Sinead O'Connor said, I do not want what I cannot

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have. That is the papers for tonight, can we roll up the autocue?

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Thank you. The pages are all online and you can see them on the website.

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Goodbye. You can also watch us because tonight's edition is on that

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page also and also on I player. Coming up next. The weather.

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Good evening. The weather has been unsettled over the last few days

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with fluctuation in the temperature around rain at times. Some heavy

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thunderstorms to end the day in Belfast and once the year

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