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Welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will bring us tomorrow.


Our guests this evening are Henry Bonsu and Kieran Dixon former Trade


Minister Lord Digby Jones. Nice to see you both. Front pages, starting


with the Metro, dedicating its front page to be HS going into liquidation


with the expected loss of 11,000 jobs. The FT goes with the same


lead. The Daily Express goes with a health story, reporting that doctors


now believe are obese people with type two diabetes can quadruple


their chances of survival with weight loss surgery. The Guardian


focuses on David Cameron asking the UK not to commit self harm by


leaving be you. The Daily Mail says the UK is failing to expel foreign


criminals and this has undermined the case for Britain to remain in


the EU. The Daily Mirror claims boxing legend Muhammad Ali has been


rushed to hospital after suffering from breathing problems. Let's start


with a famous name on the high Street, 88 years in business and now


British home stores has gone into liquidation. Here it is on the


Metro. The shutters finally come down on BHS. We have heard a lot of


people, Digby, saying they are sorry to see it closing, but we are


shocked. The significance of the liquidation is overplayed in the


press. These people's jobs are no more or less insecure than


yesterday. The differences, it is an admission that no one wants to buy


it, so no longer will it be a going concern, no longer can somebody say


they will pay money and buy a business that opens every day, so


there is an admission that no one wants it. The problem you have is


how much of this is a commentary on the world going past BHS. Dear one


Woolworths went? What it was about was that the product, the offering,


people didn't want any more, and if that is the case, the best thing we


can do with 11,000 people is put the effort into Skillings and finding


the mother worked rather than saying, this is dreadful and we


ought to keep BHS open, because it is probably the offering to the


public is what they want to buy. Even if that is the case there have


been criticisms of previous owners and how they have treated them, lack


of investment, taking money out. Especially when you consider the


person who became a billionaire when he bought be HS 16 years ago, Sir


Philip Green, he was a darling of a number of newspapers, seen of the


great British buccaneer of the high Street. Some people including Labour


MP Frank Fielding want to drag him before select committees, I think is


going before one in parliament and a couple of weeks, and I sat -- some


people are floating the idea of removing him. We will be in violent


agreement about this, but you are mixing up two things. One thing is,


11,000 people out there who tomorrow morning are working for a company


nobody wants to buy its products, therefore the whole issue should be,


how do we find work for 11,000 people. That is different from how


did we get here. We are looking at the coverage area, it is the paper


reviews. Let's look at the FT. Last-ditch efforts fail to save BHS,


fruitless scrabble to find a buyer. On the point of how people behave


when they buy companies, surely it should be against the law to take so


much money out that the future of that company is imperilled. Except


of course. If you have this amount of profit you have made and it is in


the company called reserves, you are entitled as a shareholder to eat


into the reserves as long as you can pay the debts. You Anae can argue


about whether that is morally right or what it does to the stability of


the business, but the concept of it being illegal, no matter how morally


we might have a view, you have to be very careful. Indeed we must but we


talk about being ethical, we hold summits in this country on


corruption, we preach on it... What I am saying is, the brand of Britain


and business and ethics is famous throughout the world so we need to


hold ourselves to a high standard. Business people in this country need


to. But if you own the company you only assets in it. Including the


people, it would appear. There are two distinct things here. Yesterday,


the people running it say, no one wants to buy this business, 11,000


good people will lose their jobs. Let's have a maximum effort to try


to find the mother work. That is a different argument to, how did we


get here. In the first bit, that is what the paper review is about. The


second bit, how did we get here, I am in agreement with you, we have to


be careful about using certain words. I am pulling back... The


people who buy large did nothing illegal, although morally there is a


big issue. The question is, what should the select committee be able


to do. They will ask questions Philip Green and Dominic Shepherd. I


have appeared before a select committee, the people asking


questions don't knows much as you do so they grandstand and try to ask


questions that say, look at me, whereas the people being questioned


now the subject. The real sport would be, will Philip Green keep his


temper. Will presses buttons? We have to move on, I'm so sorry! Let's


look at the Guardian, Cameron, let us not roll the dice on Britain,


voting to leave the EU would be economic self harm, the Prime


Minister insists. Angela Merkel also, saying, if you want to change


the rules on how the EU operates, staying. She is making it very clear


that although Brexit supporters say the Germans want to sell BMW to us,


the French sell champagne to us, there is no way they will wreck good


established relationships over decades. Angela Merkel is saying


clearly, you might find it very chilly outside the European Union,


so don't be foolish. Cameron is echoing that in the first of the set


piece discussions on sky earlier this evening, and Faisal Islam was


the presenter, really pushing him hard on the issue of migration, and


also project fear, and apparently Cameron came unstuck on the issue of


keeping immigration down to the tens of thousands. I am quite pleased


that the Prime Minister, for once, hasn't often does death of the


first-born, plague of frogs and blood in the street if we leave the


EU. He is finally being asked to address certain issues. I did say,


the Prime Minister behaving in a statesman-like fashion, which I


think has been lacking. The other side have been doing much the same


sort of stuff. What I find interesting is, I am worried about


this nation hitching its wagon to a train that is marching towards 1917.


In Asia's century, I don't see much reform in Europe. Some people like


me are saying, I don't want to leave it but I wanted to reform. For my


grandchildren's sake I am beginning to think it should be right to come


out. What Cameron is saying, for your grandchildren's circuit would


be right to stay in. I think the long-term issue is the one not being


talked about. I think economic turbulence will happen and I believe


Europe is not competitive, but it is what will happen 30 years down the


line. The trouble is, that you can't deal with that. I can't forecast in


the morning, nor can the Treasury. I am so sorry, there is too much to


talk about! I am trying to be rational about those. The Daily


Mail, we fail to deports... Human rights being blamed here, Digby,


there is a mechanism for deporting criminals. The issue, in the text


they do with the issue quite well, the problem is always with this sort


of newspaper, the headline has little to do with the merits of the


case. They are saying, you have at the moment the right for people to


come into Europe without defence. Some will be criminals. If they


commit a certain crime there is in place in agreement, you can deport


them, and we have 5000 people walking around in the communities


who have already committed offences, waiting to go home. You can blame


Brussels for a lot but you cannot blame Brussels for this. This is


about the UK Government, and I guess it is all parties, and they are


saying, we can deport you but we haven't got round to it yet. That is


not Europe's fault. Exactly. We are not going to agree again?! These


people are sewn dangerous, surely you don't release them from prison


until you are ready to deport them. You release these people unlicensed


because you think they are no longer dangerous, you call them back if you


think they have breached the terms of their licence. If you think they


shouldn't be in Britain you should hold them until deportation. They


are dealing with 5789 living in the community. I was going to throw


water on you! The Times, page two, hospital delays leave thousands


waiting outside in ambulances. I am one of these people who say


obviously the NHS needs more money but can we have the money better


spent, more efficiently. I don't mean privatisation, I just mean,


everybody knows this, it is just no one will say it, a lot of the money


in the NHS is wasted. The system so often doesn't deliver, not that


there is not enough money because often it needs more money, not that


wit hasn't got good people, it has, the system isn't right. In this


article you have three different people from vested interests saying


the same thing, the reason this is happening is beds are full, beds are


full because too often we have linked up there with social care so


there is not enough in the community to get them out there, secondly we


have a bad system in the way we get them in, people wait, and thirdly


there isn't enough money. Those things together, I thought this


article was fair because you have people from vastly different areas


talking about this. Let's quote Norman Lamb the former Lib Dem came


minister, a very serious sky in this area, and says we are projected to


spend a reducing percentage of our national income on health, so even


though people like Digby complain about too much waste, we have to


spend money to get the system right, and every government that comes in


reconfigure the system. It takes four or five years to bedding and we


change it every time we have a new government, that is part of the


problem. It is persistent, not the money. It is both, I know a bit


about this, it is both. I am questioning what I have just heard?


How much longer have I got? Three minutes. Crikey, we could have


carried on talking about something else. Not to worry. There is a link


between this and Brexit. Your people claim... Hold your breath! The


Brexit supporters say if we leave the European Union, that ?350


million a week that we currently sent to the EU, a significant


proportion can be spent on improving the NHS. That is what their election


broadcast was about two nights ago. If you engaged brain before... Oh!


OK! On the Brexit bus they have this thing on the NHS and I think they


are wrong to do it. Hello! Just because a view conflicts with yours,


why are you derogatory about it? Stop! Time out! We're going to move


on. I am going to move the song, Digby. Digby thinks he is


presenting! He's not the only one who comes on here and behaves in


this fashion, but he is always so smartly dressed. The Financial


Times, the gender pay gap starts young as boys force a better deal on


pocket money, Henry. Who knew indeed, this 12% difference in the


current round, so boys receive an average of ?6.93 per week, versus


girls getting ?6 16 per week. As with use, so with adults, because we


know there is a pay gap between women and men, and apparently boys


are more abstract Brezovan girls... I find that difficult to believe.


Can you imagine Digby asking his parents for more money? Does the


article suggests we should get girls to practice asking for more money


when they are little? It is a good point in that respect,


assertiveness, self-respect and self esteem are some of the biggest


barriers to improvement in the job market, and using education


properly, because people don't feel they can because they don't have


that... Or assertiveness. Assertiveness in women is


interpreted differently from that of men. What is important is if in the


domestic, trusted environment of pocket money, if you could get a


young woman to start thinking intensive, I am worth it, then


possibly in the job market in years to come that filters through to a


better and more balanced society. Or it might be that parents and


employers are sensitive enough to be issued having been on training to


spot this, and if they see a young woman not raising her hands... I


think I need to go home and reassess what pocket money everybody gets! I


lacked for your daughters. She will be very pleased! That's it for you


didn't -- for tonight. You can see a detailed review of the papers seven


days a week on our website. You can see us thereto with each night's


edition posted on the page shortly after each addition. Thank you,


Henry and Digby, it's always good fun. Coming up next, it's the


weather. Once again on the weather front


today it was a case of all of nothing. You either had clear blue


skies and sunshine across many western areas


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