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Welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will bring us tomorrow.

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Our guests this evening are Henry Bonsu and Kieran Dixon former Trade

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Minister Lord Digby Jones. Nice to see you both. Front pages, starting

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with the Metro, dedicating its front page to be HS going into liquidation

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with the expected loss of 11,000 jobs. The FT goes with the same

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lead. The Daily Express goes with a health story, reporting that doctors

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now believe are obese people with type two diabetes can quadruple

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their chances of survival with weight loss surgery. The Guardian

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focuses on David Cameron asking the UK not to commit self harm by

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leaving be you. The Daily Mail says the UK is failing to expel foreign

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criminals and this has undermined the case for Britain to remain in

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the EU. The Daily Mirror claims boxing legend Muhammad Ali has been

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rushed to hospital after suffering from breathing problems. Let's start

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with a famous name on the high Street, 88 years in business and now

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British home stores has gone into liquidation. Here it is on the

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Metro. The shutters finally come down on BHS. We have heard a lot of

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people, Digby, saying they are sorry to see it closing, but we are

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shocked. The significance of the liquidation is overplayed in the

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press. These people's jobs are no more or less insecure than

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yesterday. The differences, it is an admission that no one wants to buy

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it, so no longer will it be a going concern, no longer can somebody say

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they will pay money and buy a business that opens every day, so

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there is an admission that no one wants it. The problem you have is

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how much of this is a commentary on the world going past BHS. Dear one

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Woolworths went? What it was about was that the product, the offering,

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people didn't want any more, and if that is the case, the best thing we

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can do with 11,000 people is put the effort into Skillings and finding

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the mother worked rather than saying, this is dreadful and we

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ought to keep BHS open, because it is probably the offering to the

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public is what they want to buy. Even if that is the case there have

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been criticisms of previous owners and how they have treated them, lack

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of investment, taking money out. Especially when you consider the

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person who became a billionaire when he bought be HS 16 years ago, Sir

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Philip Green, he was a darling of a number of newspapers, seen of the

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great British buccaneer of the high Street. Some people including Labour

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MP Frank Fielding want to drag him before select committees, I think is

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going before one in parliament and a couple of weeks, and I sat -- some

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people are floating the idea of removing him. We will be in violent

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agreement about this, but you are mixing up two things. One thing is,

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11,000 people out there who tomorrow morning are working for a company

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nobody wants to buy its products, therefore the whole issue should be,

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how do we find work for 11,000 people. That is different from how

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did we get here. We are looking at the coverage area, it is the paper

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reviews. Let's look at the FT. Last-ditch efforts fail to save BHS,

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fruitless scrabble to find a buyer. On the point of how people behave

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when they buy companies, surely it should be against the law to take so

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much money out that the future of that company is imperilled. Except

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of course. If you have this amount of profit you have made and it is in

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the company called reserves, you are entitled as a shareholder to eat

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into the reserves as long as you can pay the debts. You Anae can argue

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about whether that is morally right or what it does to the stability of

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the business, but the concept of it being illegal, no matter how morally

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we might have a view, you have to be very careful. Indeed we must but we

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talk about being ethical, we hold summits in this country on

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corruption, we preach on it... What I am saying is, the brand of Britain

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and business and ethics is famous throughout the world so we need to

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hold ourselves to a high standard. Business people in this country need

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to. But if you own the company you only assets in it. Including the

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people, it would appear. There are two distinct things here. Yesterday,

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the people running it say, no one wants to buy this business, 11,000

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good people will lose their jobs. Let's have a maximum effort to try

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to find the mother work. That is a different argument to, how did we

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get here. In the first bit, that is what the paper review is about. The

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second bit, how did we get here, I am in agreement with you, we have to

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be careful about using certain words. I am pulling back... The

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people who buy large did nothing illegal, although morally there is a

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big issue. The question is, what should the select committee be able

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to do. They will ask questions Philip Green and Dominic Shepherd. I

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have appeared before a select committee, the people asking

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questions don't knows much as you do so they grandstand and try to ask

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questions that say, look at me, whereas the people being questioned

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now the subject. The real sport would be, will Philip Green keep his

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temper. Will presses buttons? We have to move on, I'm so sorry! Let's

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look at the Guardian, Cameron, let us not roll the dice on Britain,

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voting to leave the EU would be economic self harm, the Prime

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Minister insists. Angela Merkel also, saying, if you want to change

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the rules on how the EU operates, staying. She is making it very clear

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that although Brexit supporters say the Germans want to sell BMW to us,

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the French sell champagne to us, there is no way they will wreck good

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established relationships over decades. Angela Merkel is saying

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clearly, you might find it very chilly outside the European Union,

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so don't be foolish. Cameron is echoing that in the first of the set

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piece discussions on sky earlier this evening, and Faisal Islam was

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the presenter, really pushing him hard on the issue of migration, and

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also project fear, and apparently Cameron came unstuck on the issue of

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keeping immigration down to the tens of thousands. I am quite pleased

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that the Prime Minister, for once, hasn't often does death of the

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first-born, plague of frogs and blood in the street if we leave the

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EU. He is finally being asked to address certain issues. I did say,

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the Prime Minister behaving in a statesman-like fashion, which I

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think has been lacking. The other side have been doing much the same

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sort of stuff. What I find interesting is, I am worried about

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this nation hitching its wagon to a train that is marching towards 1917.

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In Asia's century, I don't see much reform in Europe. Some people like

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me are saying, I don't want to leave it but I wanted to reform. For my

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grandchildren's sake I am beginning to think it should be right to come

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out. What Cameron is saying, for your grandchildren's circuit would

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be right to stay in. I think the long-term issue is the one not being

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talked about. I think economic turbulence will happen and I believe

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Europe is not competitive, but it is what will happen 30 years down the

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line. The trouble is, that you can't deal with that. I can't forecast in

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the morning, nor can the Treasury. I am so sorry, there is too much to

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talk about! I am trying to be rational about those. The Daily

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Mail, we fail to deports... Human rights being blamed here, Digby,

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there is a mechanism for deporting criminals. The issue, in the text

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they do with the issue quite well, the problem is always with this sort

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of newspaper, the headline has little to do with the merits of the

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case. They are saying, you have at the moment the right for people to

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come into Europe without defence. Some will be criminals. If they

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commit a certain crime there is in place in agreement, you can deport

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them, and we have 5000 people walking around in the communities

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who have already committed offences, waiting to go home. You can blame

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Brussels for a lot but you cannot blame Brussels for this. This is

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about the UK Government, and I guess it is all parties, and they are

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saying, we can deport you but we haven't got round to it yet. That is

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not Europe's fault. Exactly. We are not going to agree again?! These

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people are sewn dangerous, surely you don't release them from prison

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until you are ready to deport them. You release these people unlicensed

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because you think they are no longer dangerous, you call them back if you

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think they have breached the terms of their licence. If you think they

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shouldn't be in Britain you should hold them until deportation. They

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are dealing with 5789 living in the community. I was going to throw

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water on you! The Times, page two, hospital delays leave thousands

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waiting outside in ambulances. I am one of these people who say

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obviously the NHS needs more money but can we have the money better

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spent, more efficiently. I don't mean privatisation, I just mean,

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everybody knows this, it is just no one will say it, a lot of the money

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in the NHS is wasted. The system so often doesn't deliver, not that

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there is not enough money because often it needs more money, not that

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wit hasn't got good people, it has, the system isn't right. In this

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article you have three different people from vested interests saying

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the same thing, the reason this is happening is beds are full, beds are

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full because too often we have linked up there with social care so

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there is not enough in the community to get them out there, secondly we

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have a bad system in the way we get them in, people wait, and thirdly

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there isn't enough money. Those things together, I thought this

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article was fair because you have people from vastly different areas

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talking about this. Let's quote Norman Lamb the former Lib Dem came

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minister, a very serious sky in this area, and says we are projected to

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spend a reducing percentage of our national income on health, so even

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though people like Digby complain about too much waste, we have to

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spend money to get the system right, and every government that comes in

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reconfigure the system. It takes four or five years to bedding and we

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change it every time we have a new government, that is part of the

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problem. It is persistent, not the money. It is both, I know a bit

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about this, it is both. I am questioning what I have just heard?

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How much longer have I got? Three minutes. Crikey, we could have

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carried on talking about something else. Not to worry. There is a link

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between this and Brexit. Your people claim... Hold your breath! The

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Brexit supporters say if we leave the European Union, that ?350

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million a week that we currently sent to the EU, a significant

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proportion can be spent on improving the NHS. That is what their election

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broadcast was about two nights ago. If you engaged brain before... Oh!

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OK! On the Brexit bus they have this thing on the NHS and I think they

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are wrong to do it. Hello! Just because a view conflicts with yours,

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why are you derogatory about it? Stop! Time out! We're going to move

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on. I am going to move the song, Digby. Digby thinks he is

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presenting! He's not the only one who comes on here and behaves in

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this fashion, but he is always so smartly dressed. The Financial

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Times, the gender pay gap starts young as boys force a better deal on

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pocket money, Henry. Who knew indeed, this 12% difference in the

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current round, so boys receive an average of ?6.93 per week, versus

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girls getting ?6 16 per week. As with use, so with adults, because we

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know there is a pay gap between women and men, and apparently boys

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are more abstract Brezovan girls... I find that difficult to believe.

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Can you imagine Digby asking his parents for more money? Does the

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article suggests we should get girls to practice asking for more money

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when they are little? It is a good point in that respect,

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assertiveness, self-respect and self esteem are some of the biggest

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barriers to improvement in the job market, and using education

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properly, because people don't feel they can because they don't have

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that... Or assertiveness. Assertiveness in women is

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interpreted differently from that of men. What is important is if in the

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domestic, trusted environment of pocket money, if you could get a

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young woman to start thinking intensive, I am worth it, then

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possibly in the job market in years to come that filters through to a

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better and more balanced society. Or it might be that parents and

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employers are sensitive enough to be issued having been on training to

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spot this, and if they see a young woman not raising her hands... I

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think I need to go home and reassess what pocket money everybody gets! I

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lacked for your daughters. She will be very pleased! That's it for you

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didn't -- for tonight. You can see a detailed review of the papers seven

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days a week on our website. You can see us thereto with each night's

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edition posted on the page shortly after each addition. Thank you,

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Henry and Digby, it's always good fun. Coming up next, it's the

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weather. Once again on the weather front

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today it was a case of all of nothing. You either had clear blue

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skies and sunshine across many western areas

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