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And welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are Jim Waterson, who's the politics editor

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at BuzzFeed UK, and Rosamund Urwin, a columnist for the Evening

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The i says Labour leader, Jermy Corbyn, has been rocked

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by a walk-out of his shadow cabinet, and has a helpful column of pictures

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of all those members who've quit today.

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The Metro comments on the political chaos following the Referendum vote.

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"The lights are on at Westminster," it says, "but nobody's home."

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The Express says the Prime Minister's coming under pressure

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to leave Downing Street early to foil what it calls a plot to stop

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The Guardian says Jeremy Corbyn is determined to stay as Labour

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leader despite his shadow cabinet disintegrating.

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The Telegraph also leads on the Labour mutiny,

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but its front page is dominated by a quote from its exclusive

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While the FT says Britain is facing what it calls the "stark reality"

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of the international consequences of its vote to leave the EU.

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And the Times says Jeremy Corbyn faces a leadership ultimatum.

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But it also has a story about George Osborne who,

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the paper says, is mulling over whether to back Boris Johnson

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That is where we will start. The Times. Jeremy Corbyn faces

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leadership ultimatum. Labour hit by a wave of frontbench resignations.

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It was like dominoes. It was hour I hour. -- by. They pause for the

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football to let the match run out and then as soon as the whistle

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went, another resignation. That shows what they were concentrating

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on. The most interesting one is Tom Watson. The Times says Tom Watson is

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ready to tell Jeremy Corbyn to quit. This is make or break if Jeremy

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Corbyn survives tomorrow, then the EU will survive until the next

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election. If he tips the balance tomorrow that might be the end of

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one of the most bizarre and shortest periods of any Labour leader ever.

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Tom Watson went to Glastonbury for the weekend after the events

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Thursday and Friday, which might make people raised an eyebrow, but

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he is back now. -- raise. He is back now. He got the train yesterday.

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People were trying to catch on the train on the way back. We had a

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reporter at the station where he had to change trains. She said, I can't

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see him, so we don't know how he got back from London. He got a train

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from Glastonbury and somehow got back to London. Grassroots support

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for Jeremy Corbyn is strong. He may have the backing of enough people

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not to leave his shadow cabinet. People are coming out tomorrow to

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protest his... What do we call this? The series of resignations as a

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series of rebellions. There is also this campaign now to make Labour MPs

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keep him. Art, I can't see who he is going to put in his shadow cabinet

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now. -- but. So many people are coming out in support of him. We

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have 16 MPs saying they still support him. You really do feel how

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on earth he can possibly take on this role. It is ludicrous. The

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Labour Party doesn't have a good manual for getting rid of leaders.

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The Tories can do it with a no-confidence vote. But with Labour,

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it is unclear with the process. Clearly, a substantial amount of

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Labour MPs want him gone, but the mechanism for doing it benefits

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Jeremy Corbyn. Why are they doing it now? Diane Abbott says this has been

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planned for ages. The referendum is just an excuse. There were

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mutterings of it when they knew he was going to win the leadership.

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Before he won. He will do it for a bit, we will get a caretaker leader,

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and the next election will have a fresh face. That was before he even

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had won it. That has always been a desire a Monday. He is so -- among

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them. They are going to have a complete nightmare. And he Jeremy

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Corbyn Labour MPs I was talking to on Monday said they will not succeed

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but keep going at it. -- anti. Now it seems they may actually do it.

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With the view of there being a General Election? They just want to

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get rid of him now. I don't think at that point they were hopeful. Now we

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are at the tipping point. John McDonnell ruled himself out this

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morning, of course, very the hammer early. -- vehemently. That is

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interesting that he has fully put his weight behind Jeremy Corbyn as

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someone who could do it. The Times. George Osborne looks at a deal for

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Prime Minister. Here is a man who was right at the front of the Remain

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campaign now thinking, we are told by this, to be weighing up whether

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he can support Boris Johnson to become the next Prime Minister. This

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is extraordinary to me. If politicians... If we want to have

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any faith in them having the set of beliefs and standing by their

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decisions, how can he possibly, what credibility would be seriously out,

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if he... If it had been eight Remain win David Cameron would still be

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Prime Minister, he may have brought in Boris and other leaders to put a

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party together. --A. He had Boris in the first place. The message we have

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seen today from the Gove-Boris camp is to try to unify the party by

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bringing in someone from the Remain side. They need someone from there.

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George Osborne, for him, this would seem... He is so reduced. They have

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the fact that the moral and he is coming out to make a statement in a

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bid to calm the markets. -- tomorrow morning. That is a big expectation.

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The most intriguing thing for me is there is no mention of the fact that

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George Osborne was once considered the obvious succession to David

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Cameron. People went around as part of the European negotiation in

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August, it was almost expected that he was ready to take over in a

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couple of years' time. Instead, he is now not even considering running.

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Not even being put forward. The referendum got in the way in a way.

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An exclusive interview with Boris Johnson. Please excuse me if you

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already had this. It is interesting. We must be proud and positive, build

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bridges, because it is clear some have feelings of dismayed and loss

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and confusion. This climate of apprehension is understandable given

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what people were told. It is based on a profound understanding of what

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has taken place. At home and a broad the negative consequences have been

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overdone and the other side is being ignored. It is not attributed to

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anybody. What people were told during the campaign, and we have

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just had a rush of admissions, not from Boris Johnson, he hasn't been

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around, but other Leave campaign is that... What do they say? The

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promises were possibilities. That is not anyone's understanding of what a

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promise means. For many people, clearly, who have had time to think

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about it, and who voted Leave, they are still happy with their decision,

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they have made the right choice, they don't want Britain to be part

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of the EU. But, Boris Johnson, if he will be the man who negotiates this,

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he is talking about make it is surely realistic, that we have to

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co-operate with the EU. We need a deal out of this. What you will find

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if there is no way that you can ignore many Leave people will be

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disappointed with not getting what they were promised. Boris Johnson

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wrote to The Telegraph saying, I wonder if he will become Prime

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Minister, he will have to take a pay cut to pay for things. If you have

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an exclusive with the man who has just won the most successful

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campaign in British political history, I would not put it like

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that. Inside, he says a lot about how 48% of people did not vote for

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this and we need to look at that. It isn't clear-cut, not a total

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victory. There is already a lot of sounding about compromise. That'll

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be interesting to see, how many of the core people in that Leave and

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the bout that. According to Reuters, the pound has fallen again.

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Investors are still at a loss about what happens again. Markets are

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skittish. Dimensions in the article about where the pound is. It is in

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that bad, he says. -- he mentions. It has had a good run up until this

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period. But by the time this is rather it could be worth. The Asian

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markets are trying to digest these columns and making bets on the

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pound. No one knows what comes next. The best we can go on is what the

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Conservative leader says will happen. He is already talking about

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trying to calm people down and explained. That is what people want

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from leaders. They don't want more hysteria. We have had so much

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hysteria. We have had an extraordinary divisive campaign. He

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has switched from being Henry V, it is all war, this is great, to being,

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it is all friendly again. That has happened in a few hours from

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Thursday to Friday. Extraordinary. How many people trust him? In

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London, which voted, obviously, in this, completely to Remain, he could

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win London. He has so much personal popularity. There are so many

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stories of people blindly loving him. I have been on the campaign

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trail with him all over the country. Iowa is done in Cornwall when he

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grabbed some asparagus. --I was Serbia is said, Boris Johnson, are

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you going to buy some asparagus, he said, right, I have my photo shoot,

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and then he was being quirky and passed it around and the crowd

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adored him. Absolutely. And we are cynical hacks, so we

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pursue him. He was booed, and he had some negative responses. One thing

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about this is that the favourites tend not to win Tory leadership

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elections. They almost always, you know, Iain Duncan Smith was not the

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favourite. It is rarely the guy who starts in the lead and David Cameron

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is probably not minded to help them right now. The planned to quit the

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UK, one in five edition business leaders suggesting they might move

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some business outside of the UK. We were told there would be a mass

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exodus. One in five seems a huge number for me. Maybe three out of

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five don't have any overseas operations. So they are stuck here.

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A lot of companies are stuck here. Bigger businesses tended to back the

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EU but smaller businesses were often the ones who are smaller

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manufacturers in the north. You often saw them backing Brexit. They

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didn't like the red tape. It is an industrial estate which you would

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see an owner come out in favour of Brexit, whereas the banks who have

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10,000 employees were the most strongly in favour of the EU. A name

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check for Yarm tonight. I haven't been there in a very long time. They

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might not move too much out because we don't know what the deal will be

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yet. It might be that they will stick around in Britain. It could be

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that the deal struck is favourable enough for them to do it. I am sure

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some will but at the same time it creates extraordinary uncertainty.

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And I know of banks and law firms who are talking about reducing their

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headcount in London. Who are talking about, obviously, beforehand, how

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they can possibly justify keeping their European HQ would however many

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workers here. I do think there is real cause for concern here. The FT,

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political turmoil and isolation, the UK confronting the new reality. The

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FT has issued some pretty stark warnings. Vary in favour of remain,

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reflecting its readership I am sure. In the very first entered is of this

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is written facing the stark reality of crumbling influence on the world

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stage, which is incredibly stark. Yes, it is not an up the read. There

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is a lot of doom and gloom in this front page and warnings about how we

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don't have the negotiating teams required to do these deals, how even

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if we do could do the negotiations, we don't have the leverage over the

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EU. Their story focuses on a lot of the more gritty parts of how Brexit

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will actually work in reality. The conclusion of their story is we

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don't know. And it is likely to be very complicated because a lot of

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legislation needs to be unpicked and replaced. There are a lot of things

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that I didn't think of nearly enough, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar,

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I heard hardly anyone mention Gibraltar. They are very firmly in

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favour of remaining in the EU. I was astonished they found over 800 to

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vote leave. And another frontier of Calais and whether it is now at

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Dover. I have a feeling many things were not adequately discussed and

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were not given the weight they should have been in this debate, and

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now suddenly as this article says, we are sort of... A lot of people

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said that they didn't feel from the newspapers and the media generally

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they didn't get the answers they wanted beforehand. I think one of

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the things in this referendum has been that people normally know who

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they trust and who they refer to. If you read this paper you get those

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that. A lot of people got very confused because the traditional

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boundaries of who they looked to for advice broke down and then you were

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left with people saying we don't know the facts. Actually what they

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were instead saying is I am getting bombarded with so much I can't tell

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them apart. And they just didn't quite know how to Brexit trust. The

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Daily Mail reporting on a plot to block Brexit. That's brilliant.

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Wouldn't any losing side B... They are saying if it was incredibly

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close on the other direction they would call for a second referendum.

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And Nigel Farage is saying this is absolutely ludicrous. And this

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petition which was started which has 2 million signatures, which may not

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all have been signed in this country, but it was actually started

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before the vote by a pro- leave campaigner who was worried that it

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would be a close result and he would want a second referendum. He says it

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has been hijacked after the event. At in what way is the paper arguing

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that the exit could be blocked? -- but in what way. They have this

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broad coalition of Nicola Sturgeon, some MPs and Tony Blair, who have

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all said separately that a rethink was needed. Now that the

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consequences of quitting the Brussels club are here. That is the

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perfect Daily Mail concoction, Tony Blair, Nicola Sturgeon, and senior

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MPs. In terms of the paper's editorial line that is the absolute

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dream people to be up against. If you have voted to leave and that is

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what the outcome was, however big or small the margin, you would expect

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that result to stand. You would expect us to be leaving the EU. Well

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we could technically have a general election where one party stands and

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says they are standing on a platform of us remaining in the EU. So that

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would be a new mandate either to stay... I can't imagine that that

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would happen. I think from all sides no one is claiming the referendum

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was fixed, it might have been run in very a pleasant terms, but I can't

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see us not exiting the EU now. But there clearly are people who think

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there are obstacles in the way. There could be a new election with

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so many runs on a pro-EU ticket. But I don't think we have enough time

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for that to happen either. Those who voted for leave would feel they

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could never trust the process again. I think there will be an enormous

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betrayal narrative. I think there will be a lot of people who had hope

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of change for the first time in a very long time who have voted for

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leaves and finally celebrated victory when they have been ignored

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for years and there is a risk that they feel that they haven't got what

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they wanted. And many find themselves in a worse position.

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Let's look at the Metro, the lights are on but nobody's home. The

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illuminated Palace of Westminster with a set of statements underneath.

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Nicola Sturgeon on the fight to stay in the EU, 3 million signing the

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petition you mentioned and Brussels wants us to start leaving now, well,

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some do and some don't. Is the one in the middle we haven't really

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talked about, the idea that Nicola Sturgeon talking today saying there

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is that push, that desire for the referendum on Scottish independence.

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But before we even get to that point, because of the way it

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devolution is... It could be blocked by Scotland saying hold on, we are

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tied into the EU. I can't see that happening. I just think she would be

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bowled over attempting that. How would she be? I think the argument

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is that in theory the Scottish Parliament, I am no expert in

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Scottish constitutional law so forgive me but I think the argument

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is that there is a theory that they would have to give their approval

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but I don't think that is enough to stop it. Scotland could avoid

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ratifying the leave move, but that power ultimately goes to the centre.

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To stop all of those wranglings, and for those people who don't want to

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see the breakup of the United Kingdom, somebody somewhere needs to

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get a move on with these negotiations, whether or not they

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invoke Article 50 sooner or later. The best way not to leave the EU is

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not to do anything. If we don't invoke Article 50 any time soon that

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we don't leave the EU. We need to leave the EU with decent enough

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terms to satisfy leave supporters and also good enough to appeal to

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Scotland to stay with the United Kingdom. They have all just said,

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the majority of them want to stay with the EU. It would be fascinating

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if in a hypothetical world we had a Prime Minister Boris Johnson who

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wear -- when he went to Germany, said he had a good deal. I can't

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imagine it. There is probably a British solution to it somewhere.

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They do think that there is a point, I have listened to a lot of my

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friends in Scotland and they feel that they have been tipped over by

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this from being very pro- remaining in the union to thinking that now if

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we are leaving the EU they want to go into the EU and not be part of

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written. We need to brush up on our constitutional law, a bit of

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homework for everybody -- part of Britain. Nice long papers, hope you

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enjoyed it. Coming up next, the weather forecast.

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