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Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

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With me are Jenny Anderson - author and reporter on Quartz.com,

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and the Political Commentator James Millar.

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Welcome to you both, thank you for being with us. Let's take you

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through what we have. The Observer leads with

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the Conservative leadership race, saying the final choice will be

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between Home Secretary Theresa May The Sunday Express front page

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is devoted to the Queen's call for calm reflection in the wake

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of the vote to leave The Sunday Telegraph has

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with an interview with Conservative leadership candidate Andrea Leadsom,

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in which she claims she can be The Mail on Sunday headline accuses

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Andrea Leadsom of hypocrisy The Sunday Post claims that medics

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are planning to emigrate as a result The Sunday Mirror front page has

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a tribute to Caroline Aherne, the comedy actress and writer

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who passed away earlier today. And it's back to the race to be

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the new Prime Minister on the front of The Sunday Times -

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the paper says senior Tories are uniting to stop Theresa May

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being installed in the top job So let's kick off then. With of

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course the Conservative Party leadership, James, this bid to stop

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any kind of coronation of Theresa May. Yes, this one... It's an

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interesting day because everything has been happening so fast. It's

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great for the Sunday papers, you take stock and try to move the story

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on. It feels slightly like The Sunday

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Times have got so many good lines, they don't know which one to go with

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them that come with this idea that Theresa May wants a coronation, so

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she would have the face the competition. I'm not aware that

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Theresa May has said she wants a coronation or that there's a lot of

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evidence of it. But clearly she is the hot favourite at the moment and

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the other candidates are manoeuvring this weekend to try and stop her, so

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we have got Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, both doing interviews and

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putting things out to their supporters to try and undermined

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Theresa May. They are claiming that she is trying to stitch things up,

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yet she hasn't said that. And the rather nasty mention of her health,

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this is already getting dirty and could get dirtier. To what you make

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of it all as an American living in the United Kingdom? It was not that

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long ago that the US was that kind of political basket case, the

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sclerotic Congress and this primary race that would never end, but we

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have two candidates another UK is kind of the political basket case of

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the world. There is a sense that maybe we did it to ourselves here,

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this didn't have to... Have to happen as much. We brought this on.

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I think there is a sense of disbelief for sure. It's interesting

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that we could end up with a race in the Tory Party are tween two women

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for the leadership. We've got" Merkel in Germany, we could have

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Hillary Clinton in the US, and then here. If are looking for silver

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linings, feminism might be one. James, how do you see the vocally?

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We have got important developments coming up this week. Its heart, the

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Golden rule of Tory leadership is the favourite never winds. Well, the

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favour was Boris Johnson and he's uneven in the race anymore. Theresa

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May is now the favourite. Andrea Leadsom is certainly making the

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running this weekend. In other papers, to the extent that some

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papers are feeling the need to gun her down already. Some papers are

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building her up. Certainly the moment, it looks like it will be

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Theresa May and Andrea Leadsom going forward on Thursday, they do it

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quickly in the Tory Party, they don't hang around. The electorate of

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the Conservative Party membership is in some ways a little bit

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unpredictable. You can know what MPs then but it's much harder to assess

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what the 150,000 members out there thing. Absolutely, and in over

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marketable moment as we had so many in the past week, a banker is now

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the top... How far have become, in 2008 or 2010, it wouldn't seem that

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perhaps now we have to reach out side the realm of politics for some

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expertise. But it think you are right, at this point if there is

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something that we've all learned him and it is true in the US and the UK,

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anything can happen. We will see that out takes us. Wizardly suspect

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that the Tory membership is Eurosceptic and that is part of this

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trying to stop Theresa May is to get people, a secular candidate, the

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membership may have well flopped. As another heavyweight front page

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focusing on Andrea Leadsom and an Theresa May, they are set to fight

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the Tory poll 4pm. They say Michael Gove's bid fades. Is it too early to

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say that? I don't think it is to sin. He doesn't have the votes,

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that's one thing, and it sort of his active political Treasury, that will

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hang over him, it will not go away to four days. I don't think he has a

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very good shot. But we are in a strange position where we have

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Theresa May who voted to remain but it is being accused of wanting to

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leave against Andrea Leadsom who voted to leave and is quoted today

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as saying... You know, everything is moving, everything is shifting, no

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position is set in stone. Andrea Leadsom is the unknown candidate at

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the moment to the large extent, which helped David Cameron last

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time. He came in off the rails. We believe that Andrea Leadsom tomorrow

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will set out her stall. She is riding high because you don't know

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anything about her at the moment. A little bit more about her in the

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Sunday telegraph, in that paper she is quoted as saying I can be the new

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Margaret Thatcher, which will presumably go down quite well with

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the Tory Party membership out there. Tory catnip, to say he would be the

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new Thatcher. But what is it really mean? She is obviously invoking

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Thatcher because she knows it will go down with the Tory membership.

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She also talks about her strong Christian faith and elsewhere talks

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about family comes first. She is very much ticking the boxes for the

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Tory faithful. At cooking the Sunday roast, she added that as well. How

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far have we come with feminism? I'm not sure. And her person personal

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warmth, sheep combines toughness with personal warmth. I have dealt

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with her when I was in Westminster and she does have personal warmth,

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that does count for something. It is fair to say she is not widely known

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around the country, not exactly a household name, is she? Second be

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both... In asset and a negative. If she does go forward with Theresa

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May, we'll get to know her a lot better over the next few weeks.

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Somebody who definitely is a household name, Boris Johnson, of

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course, let's go on to talk about the drama revolving around Boris

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Johnson and Michael Gove. So the Mail on Sunday, they have a piece by

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Boris Johnston's sister Rachel Johnston, saying that Boris was

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blown up by a political psychopath. Quite strong! Quite strong, and it

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honestly tells you where radar in terms of leadership right now

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because this is not what we need. We don't need more psychodrama, we

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don't need a tax, we don't need people call each other psychopaths.

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The country is in crisis, Bigfoot just have to get me move forward.

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This I don't think it's us anywhere. Clearly things have been said and

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done but I think it is a reliever Merkel statement that at this point

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you can still go down this route of petty name-calling and fighting in

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the papers when what is confronting Britain is quite serious. And this

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piece come actually, is focusing on Michael Gove's wife Sarah Vine and

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that leaked e-mail saying... Boris blown up by a political psychopath

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but it was Mrs. Michael Gove who detonated the bomb. Nothing they

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love more than a woman being horrible by another woman. It is the

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most odd piece, it just... The Johnstons are such a bizarre family,

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they have all their arguments in public and the wind each other up in

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public and eight regarded as their playground, the rest of us just

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happened to be sharing it. The language that Rachel Johnson uses,

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it's all about Michael Gove as an ideological ninja, borderline

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bunkers. It's just from a different fun it. What it really illustrates

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that is her description of Michael Gove as a sort of Westminster

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suicide bomber. There's a lot of talk in the papers today of wars and

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suicide bombers and all that sort of stuff and frankly it's quite

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distasteful. It's the bubble kind of forgetting... It's just politics at

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the end of the day, but they regarded as a war. The other big

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story in the bubble, the Westminster bubble, is that Labour leadership.

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The Observer, they are covering that as well. They're talking about

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Jeremy Corbyn... What are they saying. It felt... We were talking

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at this, it felt like a nothing story. He's going to offer a peace

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deal. I don't think... They tried to oust him, so trying to offer AP

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still is a little bit too little too late. He didn't feel like there was

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a lot of substance. Do you think it is too late for him to survive? It

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feels that way, absolutely. There was a clear vote of no-confidence

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there for him. The fact that he cannot be in the same room as one of

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his top lieutenants because he's afraid of being bullied. Are we in

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year four, are we in professional politics? That does not look good.

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This is a huge opportunity for the Labour Party. They should be

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stepping forward, lining up, filling the gap. The Conservatives are

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hardly covering themselves in glory. And yet... This is the other side.

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There could conceivably be a general election within months. Absolutely.

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I think it's an amazing story. Jeremy Corbyn wants to be Prime

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Minister, apparently. Yet he cannot be in the same room as his deputy.

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This is a man who presumably wants to be able to walk into a room with

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flatter or Putin or Obama or Clinton or whoever, but he cannot be with

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his own number two because he might be bullied. Someone who might jog

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his finger at him, his aides are saying we've got a duty of care,

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he's a 70-year-old man. He's not actually a 70-year-old man, Dave got

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that wrong. There's a culture of bullying. Just when you think things

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can't get more bizarre... You can't make it up! And the Sunday mirror

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also have Jeremy Corbyn piece off to MPs. Do you think there could be any

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sort of deal, agreement? It's an interesting one, the Sunday mirror,

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like a phrasing that he threw down the olive branch. A nice turn of

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phrase. They are representing it that he has reached out to his rebel

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MPs, if you like, and said you can have more say over policy. Others

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would present that same offer as the MPs saying to him there will still

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be a mechanism whereby MPs, the leader doesn't have too much power.

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Either way, it suggests they are inching towards some sort of... Page

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seven of the mirror says, let's do a deal. Do you think that's possible?

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It suggests we are getting close to it. To be quite honest, I don't

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know, nobody knows. Nobody knows what's going to happen tomorrow in

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politics at the moment. Even Angela Eagle and Owen Smith are deciding

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who's good to be the candidate, they can't even decide on a candidate to

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challenge him. It's anybody's guess what's going to happen. Because last

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much longer. Amidst all the turmoil, the express have reported a message

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from Her Majesty saying... Hit commentary on? Emblazoned on every

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mug carried back to America from all around the world, but the plea for

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calm could be applied to everything at this point. It could be applied

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to politics, finance, the markets are unraveling, to Wimbledon, we've

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lost Novak Djokovic, it could be applied to football. A sad state of

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affairs that we need the Queen to weigh in, but she did in a very

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mild... Is a controversial message or noncontroversial message? It's

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always the case to keep calm, but he said it at the official opening of

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the Scottish Parliament after the election in May and the Scottish

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people regard this as a comment on the possibility of a second

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referendum, which in the 70s and during the last referendum she

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hinted that you would rather Scotland stays part of the UK. The

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English newsrooms are seeing as a common on Brexit more widely. Which

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one she is referring to, I don't know. It is both cases, keeping, is

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probably best. Apart from Brexit and all the political shenanigans in the

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leadership of the two parties, we have also got memories of Caroline

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Aherne, whose death was announced yesterday. A fantastic comedian. She

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was. His line was so powerful, mother told me only special people

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get cancer, I must be very special. Alcoholism, depression, cancer, yet

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but we watch these clips of her, her humour was brilliant. A real

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tribute, she had a tough life, a lot of nice tributes to her today. A

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very nice spread in the Sunday mirror. A lovely picture. Now the

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tributes will concentrate on her comedy, I hope, because it was

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interesting, there was a certain distaste about the royal Queen, they

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documented all her personal problems and gory details throughout. She was

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very interesting as a comedian, which got lost amongst all the

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personal drama sometimes. She did the Mrs. Merton stuff, that was some

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of the first critique of the sort of celebrity culture, celebrities

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would, knowing that they would get torn to bits, but they would keep

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coming. And then of course she dumped that because it actually

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wasn't... You got to be the cover they did the royal family, which I

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think was completely different. And The Sunday Times having on their

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page five, demons lurking behind. It's actually surprisingly often

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comedians have quite dark personal lives. Robin Williams was a great

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example in the state. There are so many examples, I think. There is a

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sense that humour as armour, right? You rely on that humour to protect

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yourself and to get out there, but she clearly had that. And the other

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element of it, it continues the year of death. The number of celebrity

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deaths, and the idea that it's the baby boomers, she was only 52, she's

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not part of the baby boom or generation, neither was Prints. So

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many this year. Were just getting old. That's part of it as well. Or

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is it just coincidence? I know what you mean. I suppose there are

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celebrity deaths every year, but huge names. So many! I can assume

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it's just perfectly normal but we're noticing and more. But it's having a

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strange effect. Good to hear from you both, to get your views on the

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papers. Many thanks to both of you. And just a reminder that we will be

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taking a look at world's front pages every evening at 10:30pm and 11:30pm

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here on BBC News. Good morning. This will probably be

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the better

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