03/07/2016 The Papers


03/07/2016

Similar Content

Browse content similar to 03/07/2016. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!

Transcript


LineFromTo

Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

:00:00.:00:16.

With me are Jenny Anderson - author and reporter on Quartz.com,

:00:17.:00:18.

and the Political Commentator James Millar.

:00:19.:00:26.

Welcome to you both, thank you for being with us. Let's take you

:00:27.:00:29.

through what we have. The Observer leads with

:00:30.:00:31.

the Conservative leadership race, saying the final choice will be

:00:32.:00:33.

between Home Secretary Theresa May The Sunday Express front page

:00:34.:00:38.

is devoted to the Queen's call for calm reflection in the wake

:00:39.:00:46.

of the vote to leave The Sunday Telegraph has

:00:47.:00:49.

with an interview with Conservative leadership candidate Andrea Leadsom,

:00:50.:00:52.

in which she claims she can be The Mail on Sunday headline accuses

:00:53.:00:55.

Andrea Leadsom of hypocrisy The Sunday Post claims that medics

:00:56.:00:59.

are planning to emigrate as a result The Sunday Mirror front page has

:01:00.:01:09.

a tribute to Caroline Aherne, the comedy actress and writer

:01:10.:01:14.

who passed away earlier today. And it's back to the race to be

:01:15.:01:19.

the new Prime Minister on the front of The Sunday Times -

:01:20.:01:22.

the paper says senior Tories are uniting to stop Theresa May

:01:23.:01:25.

being installed in the top job So let's kick off then. With of

:01:26.:01:40.

course the Conservative Party leadership, James, this bid to stop

:01:41.:01:45.

any kind of coronation of Theresa May. Yes, this one... It's an

:01:46.:01:49.

interesting day because everything has been happening so fast. It's

:01:50.:01:54.

great for the Sunday papers, you take stock and try to move the story

:01:55.:01:56.

on. It feels slightly like The Sunday

:01:57.:01:59.

Times have got so many good lines, they don't know which one to go with

:02:00.:02:03.

them that come with this idea that Theresa May wants a coronation, so

:02:04.:02:07.

she would have the face the competition. I'm not aware that

:02:08.:02:11.

Theresa May has said she wants a coronation or that there's a lot of

:02:12.:02:16.

evidence of it. But clearly she is the hot favourite at the moment and

:02:17.:02:21.

the other candidates are manoeuvring this weekend to try and stop her, so

:02:22.:02:27.

we have got Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, both doing interviews and

:02:28.:02:33.

putting things out to their supporters to try and undermined

:02:34.:02:37.

Theresa May. They are claiming that she is trying to stitch things up,

:02:38.:02:42.

yet she hasn't said that. And the rather nasty mention of her health,

:02:43.:02:47.

this is already getting dirty and could get dirtier. To what you make

:02:48.:02:51.

of it all as an American living in the United Kingdom? It was not that

:02:52.:02:55.

long ago that the US was that kind of political basket case, the

:02:56.:02:59.

sclerotic Congress and this primary race that would never end, but we

:03:00.:03:04.

have two candidates another UK is kind of the political basket case of

:03:05.:03:07.

the world. There is a sense that maybe we did it to ourselves here,

:03:08.:03:11.

this didn't have to... Have to happen as much. We brought this on.

:03:12.:03:16.

I think there is a sense of disbelief for sure. It's interesting

:03:17.:03:21.

that we could end up with a race in the Tory Party are tween two women

:03:22.:03:27.

for the leadership. We've got" Merkel in Germany, we could have

:03:28.:03:31.

Hillary Clinton in the US, and then here. If are looking for silver

:03:32.:03:39.

linings, feminism might be one. James, how do you see the vocally?

:03:40.:03:43.

We have got important developments coming up this week. Its heart, the

:03:44.:03:48.

Golden rule of Tory leadership is the favourite never winds. Well, the

:03:49.:03:52.

favour was Boris Johnson and he's uneven in the race anymore. Theresa

:03:53.:03:57.

May is now the favourite. Andrea Leadsom is certainly making the

:03:58.:04:01.

running this weekend. In other papers, to the extent that some

:04:02.:04:05.

papers are feeling the need to gun her down already. Some papers are

:04:06.:04:10.

building her up. Certainly the moment, it looks like it will be

:04:11.:04:14.

Theresa May and Andrea Leadsom going forward on Thursday, they do it

:04:15.:04:16.

quickly in the Tory Party, they don't hang around. The electorate of

:04:17.:04:21.

the Conservative Party membership is in some ways a little bit

:04:22.:04:24.

unpredictable. You can know what MPs then but it's much harder to assess

:04:25.:04:29.

what the 150,000 members out there thing. Absolutely, and in over

:04:30.:04:33.

marketable moment as we had so many in the past week, a banker is now

:04:34.:04:39.

the top... How far have become, in 2008 or 2010, it wouldn't seem that

:04:40.:04:42.

perhaps now we have to reach out side the realm of politics for some

:04:43.:04:46.

expertise. But it think you are right, at this point if there is

:04:47.:04:49.

something that we've all learned him and it is true in the US and the UK,

:04:50.:04:53.

anything can happen. We will see that out takes us. Wizardly suspect

:04:54.:04:58.

that the Tory membership is Eurosceptic and that is part of this

:04:59.:05:01.

trying to stop Theresa May is to get people, a secular candidate, the

:05:02.:05:13.

membership may have well flopped. As another heavyweight front page

:05:14.:05:20.

focusing on Andrea Leadsom and an Theresa May, they are set to fight

:05:21.:05:28.

the Tory poll 4pm. They say Michael Gove's bid fades. Is it too early to

:05:29.:05:31.

say that? I don't think it is to sin. He doesn't have the votes,

:05:32.:05:37.

that's one thing, and it sort of his active political Treasury, that will

:05:38.:05:40.

hang over him, it will not go away to four days. I don't think he has a

:05:41.:05:44.

very good shot. But we are in a strange position where we have

:05:45.:05:48.

Theresa May who voted to remain but it is being accused of wanting to

:05:49.:05:52.

leave against Andrea Leadsom who voted to leave and is quoted today

:05:53.:05:58.

as saying... You know, everything is moving, everything is shifting, no

:05:59.:06:03.

position is set in stone. Andrea Leadsom is the unknown candidate at

:06:04.:06:06.

the moment to the large extent, which helped David Cameron last

:06:07.:06:11.

time. He came in off the rails. We believe that Andrea Leadsom tomorrow

:06:12.:06:14.

will set out her stall. She is riding high because you don't know

:06:15.:06:18.

anything about her at the moment. A little bit more about her in the

:06:19.:06:23.

Sunday telegraph, in that paper she is quoted as saying I can be the new

:06:24.:06:26.

Margaret Thatcher, which will presumably go down quite well with

:06:27.:06:32.

the Tory Party membership out there. Tory catnip, to say he would be the

:06:33.:06:35.

new Thatcher. But what is it really mean? She is obviously invoking

:06:36.:06:40.

Thatcher because she knows it will go down with the Tory membership.

:06:41.:06:42.

She also talks about her strong Christian faith and elsewhere talks

:06:43.:06:48.

about family comes first. She is very much ticking the boxes for the

:06:49.:06:54.

Tory faithful. At cooking the Sunday roast, she added that as well. How

:06:55.:06:58.

far have we come with feminism? I'm not sure. And her person personal

:06:59.:07:04.

warmth, sheep combines toughness with personal warmth. I have dealt

:07:05.:07:07.

with her when I was in Westminster and she does have personal warmth,

:07:08.:07:11.

that does count for something. It is fair to say she is not widely known

:07:12.:07:15.

around the country, not exactly a household name, is she? Second be

:07:16.:07:22.

both... In asset and a negative. If she does go forward with Theresa

:07:23.:07:26.

May, we'll get to know her a lot better over the next few weeks.

:07:27.:07:30.

Somebody who definitely is a household name, Boris Johnson, of

:07:31.:07:34.

course, let's go on to talk about the drama revolving around Boris

:07:35.:07:40.

Johnson and Michael Gove. So the Mail on Sunday, they have a piece by

:07:41.:07:48.

Boris Johnston's sister Rachel Johnston, saying that Boris was

:07:49.:07:52.

blown up by a political psychopath. Quite strong! Quite strong, and it

:07:53.:07:59.

honestly tells you where radar in terms of leadership right now

:08:00.:08:02.

because this is not what we need. We don't need more psychodrama, we

:08:03.:08:06.

don't need a tax, we don't need people call each other psychopaths.

:08:07.:08:10.

The country is in crisis, Bigfoot just have to get me move forward.

:08:11.:08:14.

This I don't think it's us anywhere. Clearly things have been said and

:08:15.:08:17.

done but I think it is a reliever Merkel statement that at this point

:08:18.:08:21.

you can still go down this route of petty name-calling and fighting in

:08:22.:08:25.

the papers when what is confronting Britain is quite serious. And this

:08:26.:08:30.

piece come actually, is focusing on Michael Gove's wife Sarah Vine and

:08:31.:08:37.

that leaked e-mail saying... Boris blown up by a political psychopath

:08:38.:08:40.

but it was Mrs. Michael Gove who detonated the bomb. Nothing they

:08:41.:08:45.

love more than a woman being horrible by another woman. It is the

:08:46.:08:53.

most odd piece, it just... The Johnstons are such a bizarre family,

:08:54.:08:57.

they have all their arguments in public and the wind each other up in

:08:58.:09:00.

public and eight regarded as their playground, the rest of us just

:09:01.:09:03.

happened to be sharing it. The language that Rachel Johnson uses,

:09:04.:09:10.

it's all about Michael Gove as an ideological ninja, borderline

:09:11.:09:12.

bunkers. It's just from a different fun it. What it really illustrates

:09:13.:09:20.

that is her description of Michael Gove as a sort of Westminster

:09:21.:09:23.

suicide bomber. There's a lot of talk in the papers today of wars and

:09:24.:09:27.

suicide bombers and all that sort of stuff and frankly it's quite

:09:28.:09:32.

distasteful. It's the bubble kind of forgetting... It's just politics at

:09:33.:09:37.

the end of the day, but they regarded as a war. The other big

:09:38.:09:41.

story in the bubble, the Westminster bubble, is that Labour leadership.

:09:42.:09:44.

The Observer, they are covering that as well. They're talking about

:09:45.:09:49.

Jeremy Corbyn... What are they saying. It felt... We were talking

:09:50.:09:54.

at this, it felt like a nothing story. He's going to offer a peace

:09:55.:09:59.

deal. I don't think... They tried to oust him, so trying to offer AP

:10:00.:10:03.

still is a little bit too little too late. He didn't feel like there was

:10:04.:10:06.

a lot of substance. Do you think it is too late for him to survive? It

:10:07.:10:10.

feels that way, absolutely. There was a clear vote of no-confidence

:10:11.:10:14.

there for him. The fact that he cannot be in the same room as one of

:10:15.:10:18.

his top lieutenants because he's afraid of being bullied. Are we in

:10:19.:10:22.

year four, are we in professional politics? That does not look good.

:10:23.:10:28.

This is a huge opportunity for the Labour Party. They should be

:10:29.:10:32.

stepping forward, lining up, filling the gap. The Conservatives are

:10:33.:10:37.

hardly covering themselves in glory. And yet... This is the other side.

:10:38.:10:41.

There could conceivably be a general election within months. Absolutely.

:10:42.:10:49.

I think it's an amazing story. Jeremy Corbyn wants to be Prime

:10:50.:10:53.

Minister, apparently. Yet he cannot be in the same room as his deputy.

:10:54.:10:56.

This is a man who presumably wants to be able to walk into a room with

:10:57.:11:01.

flatter or Putin or Obama or Clinton or whoever, but he cannot be with

:11:02.:11:04.

his own number two because he might be bullied. Someone who might jog

:11:05.:11:10.

his finger at him, his aides are saying we've got a duty of care,

:11:11.:11:14.

he's a 70-year-old man. He's not actually a 70-year-old man, Dave got

:11:15.:11:18.

that wrong. There's a culture of bullying. Just when you think things

:11:19.:11:23.

can't get more bizarre... You can't make it up! And the Sunday mirror

:11:24.:11:27.

also have Jeremy Corbyn piece off to MPs. Do you think there could be any

:11:28.:11:33.

sort of deal, agreement? It's an interesting one, the Sunday mirror,

:11:34.:11:38.

like a phrasing that he threw down the olive branch. A nice turn of

:11:39.:11:42.

phrase. They are representing it that he has reached out to his rebel

:11:43.:11:48.

MPs, if you like, and said you can have more say over policy. Others

:11:49.:11:53.

would present that same offer as the MPs saying to him there will still

:11:54.:11:59.

be a mechanism whereby MPs, the leader doesn't have too much power.

:12:00.:12:05.

Either way, it suggests they are inching towards some sort of... Page

:12:06.:12:10.

seven of the mirror says, let's do a deal. Do you think that's possible?

:12:11.:12:15.

It suggests we are getting close to it. To be quite honest, I don't

:12:16.:12:22.

know, nobody knows. Nobody knows what's going to happen tomorrow in

:12:23.:12:26.

politics at the moment. Even Angela Eagle and Owen Smith are deciding

:12:27.:12:29.

who's good to be the candidate, they can't even decide on a candidate to

:12:30.:12:33.

challenge him. It's anybody's guess what's going to happen. Because last

:12:34.:12:38.

much longer. Amidst all the turmoil, the express have reported a message

:12:39.:12:42.

from Her Majesty saying... Hit commentary on? Emblazoned on every

:12:43.:12:47.

mug carried back to America from all around the world, but the plea for

:12:48.:12:51.

calm could be applied to everything at this point. It could be applied

:12:52.:12:57.

to politics, finance, the markets are unraveling, to Wimbledon, we've

:12:58.:13:00.

lost Novak Djokovic, it could be applied to football. A sad state of

:13:01.:13:06.

affairs that we need the Queen to weigh in, but she did in a very

:13:07.:13:15.

mild... Is a controversial message or noncontroversial message? It's

:13:16.:13:18.

always the case to keep calm, but he said it at the official opening of

:13:19.:13:20.

the Scottish Parliament after the election in May and the Scottish

:13:21.:13:26.

people regard this as a comment on the possibility of a second

:13:27.:13:32.

referendum, which in the 70s and during the last referendum she

:13:33.:13:34.

hinted that you would rather Scotland stays part of the UK. The

:13:35.:13:39.

English newsrooms are seeing as a common on Brexit more widely. Which

:13:40.:13:42.

one she is referring to, I don't know. It is both cases, keeping, is

:13:43.:13:47.

probably best. Apart from Brexit and all the political shenanigans in the

:13:48.:13:50.

leadership of the two parties, we have also got memories of Caroline

:13:51.:13:54.

Aherne, whose death was announced yesterday. A fantastic comedian. She

:13:55.:14:03.

was. His line was so powerful, mother told me only special people

:14:04.:14:07.

get cancer, I must be very special. Alcoholism, depression, cancer, yet

:14:08.:14:12.

but we watch these clips of her, her humour was brilliant. A real

:14:13.:14:17.

tribute, she had a tough life, a lot of nice tributes to her today. A

:14:18.:14:22.

very nice spread in the Sunday mirror. A lovely picture. Now the

:14:23.:14:27.

tributes will concentrate on her comedy, I hope, because it was

:14:28.:14:30.

interesting, there was a certain distaste about the royal Queen, they

:14:31.:14:37.

documented all her personal problems and gory details throughout. She was

:14:38.:14:41.

very interesting as a comedian, which got lost amongst all the

:14:42.:14:46.

personal drama sometimes. She did the Mrs. Merton stuff, that was some

:14:47.:14:51.

of the first critique of the sort of celebrity culture, celebrities

:14:52.:14:53.

would, knowing that they would get torn to bits, but they would keep

:14:54.:14:57.

coming. And then of course she dumped that because it actually

:14:58.:15:00.

wasn't... You got to be the cover they did the royal family, which I

:15:01.:15:03.

think was completely different. And The Sunday Times having on their

:15:04.:15:11.

page five, demons lurking behind. It's actually surprisingly often

:15:12.:15:16.

comedians have quite dark personal lives. Robin Williams was a great

:15:17.:15:21.

example in the state. There are so many examples, I think. There is a

:15:22.:15:26.

sense that humour as armour, right? You rely on that humour to protect

:15:27.:15:30.

yourself and to get out there, but she clearly had that. And the other

:15:31.:15:37.

element of it, it continues the year of death. The number of celebrity

:15:38.:15:42.

deaths, and the idea that it's the baby boomers, she was only 52, she's

:15:43.:15:45.

not part of the baby boom or generation, neither was Prints. So

:15:46.:15:52.

many this year. Were just getting old. That's part of it as well. Or

:15:53.:15:56.

is it just coincidence? I know what you mean. I suppose there are

:15:57.:16:00.

celebrity deaths every year, but huge names. So many! I can assume

:16:01.:16:07.

it's just perfectly normal but we're noticing and more. But it's having a

:16:08.:16:13.

strange effect. Good to hear from you both, to get your views on the

:16:14.:16:17.

papers. Many thanks to both of you. And just a reminder that we will be

:16:18.:16:22.

taking a look at world's front pages every evening at 10:30pm and 11:30pm

:16:23.:16:24.

here on BBC News. Good morning. This will probably be

:16:25.:16:42.

the better

:16:43.:16:43.

Download Subtitles

SRT

ASS