04/09/2016 The Papers


04/09/2016

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In football it's also a big day for three of the Home Nations. England,

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Scotland, and Northern Ireland al play their first World Cup

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qualifiers - we'll have more on those throughout the day, plus news

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of the final cricket one day international between England and

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Pakistan. But that is all of the sport for now. Now, the papers.

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Welcome to the Sunday morning edition of the newspapers. Joining

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me, Robert Fox, defends editor for the London Evening Standard, and

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Eleanor Mills, editorial director of the Sunday Times. Front pages:

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The Observer reports that a British warship is on its way to Libya to

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intercept and arrest people smugglers aiding the flow of

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migrants trying to cross the Mediterranean. The Mail On Sunday

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claims that migrants from the Calais Jungle camp are causing crashes, on

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the roads to the French port, as they try to get to Britain. The

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Sunday Express says the Prime Minister has been warned to get

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"undressed under the duvet" to avoid being snooped on by Chinese spies at

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the forthcoming G20 summit. The mind boggles on that one! The Sunday

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Telegraph covers news that the number of youngsters diagnosed with

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cancer has by 40 per cent in the last sixteen years, apparently

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because of air pollution, pesticides and poor diet. The Sunday Times

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reports on the revelation by Scotland's First Minister, Nicola

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Sturgeon, that she suffered a miscarriage six years ago in the

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early stages of pregnancy. And there are allegations in the Sunday Mirror

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that the Labour MP, Keith Vaz has paid for the services of male

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escorts. Let's begin, the Sunday Times.

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Theresa May is in China at the G20, we have a story about a new Chinese

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security row, the company called global switch, owned by the Rubens

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Brothers, at the top of the Rich list. They basically they are hosts

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of computer networks. -- Global Switch. Networks of banks and

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government, everything that makes the Internet work. They Chinese

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companies trying to buy a 50% stake. All sorts of questions being raised

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about security issues surrounding that. Also hanging over the head of

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Theresa May, Hinkley Point, that she allowed the Chinese to invest in

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that? There is a growing row about the strategic importance of China,

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how much do we let China into our most precious secrets, our most

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precious resources, energy, Internet, all of that, how far can

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we trust them? There is the new Prime Minister, in the middle of all

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of that. The suspicion of China is what is coming three all of that. --

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coming through all of that. Important trip, warnings coming out

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that Brexit is not only mean Brexit but also means poorer, she is

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desperate to get investment, talks of trade deals with Australia, you

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may as well wait for the time that the moon turns to green cheese

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before you will get special deals! China is with her, for two reasons,

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one, as Eleanor has flagged up, it is a big security question, massive

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security question, this is just a symptom of it, particularly over

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Hinkley Point, if they get into Hinkley Point, they get into what a

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friend of mine has called the British version of the big state,

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nuclear, the nuclear military, the nuclear civil, they weave in and

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out, which even for people who have been watching it for decades,

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dinosaurs like myself, they find it very difficult to know what is going

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on, there is real alarm about it, but back to Brexit and money, there

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is two large economies which are stacking up huge surpluses, how do

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we get into it? We are faced with dreadful figures, one is Germany,

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the other is China. China do not like foreign companies buying in.

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This week, all of the statistic post Brexit have been up, it is

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manufacturing up, house prices up, you say to his huge headwinds, I

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think, looking at the facts over the last few weeks, it has not been

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gloom and doom. But that is quotidian news, it is what is coming

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down the news. -- coming down the line. As we were talking about, real

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problems within the EU,. Talk of real strong trade deals with

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a lot of partners who find it difficult to negotiate with the EU.

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Who is going to do the deals? LAUGHTER

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Nobody knows how to do them. You mention Hinkley Point, right up

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there on the agenda, a lot of this, what happens now, particularly with

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China, and the new Prime Minister, will set the tone, will set the

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relationship, whether that is going to be an abrasive relationship or a

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religion ship that can come to something. Such wariness around

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China as well. Seem to be opened or five years ago, we worried about

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what is going on in the Pacific, the South China see, the atolls, very

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powerful, aggressive phase, where they are saying, not that they want

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to take over the world military but they will not be bossed around and

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criticised. -- South China Sea. They do not care about human rights

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agenda, we are seeing this right through the piece, very disturbing

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things like the book-sellers of Hong Kong, relatively small in

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themselves, but indicative of a whole lot more. A huge amount to get

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through, you guys have been very diligent with your look, moving to

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the Observer. Talking about Brexit, whatever got here? -- what have we

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got here? This says that Brexit, Margaret Thatcher would be very

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against Brexit, this was run back in my newspaper, back in February, this

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has been massively denied, in fact, Bill Cash said he had a letter from

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Thatcher saying that the project was contrary to British interests and

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damaging to Parliamentary democracy, and she wanted to get out, I don't

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quite understand why the Observer are using this story, putting this

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story on the front page again, this is an old story, Charles Powell

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saying that Thatcher would be anti-Brexit, a lot of Thatcherites

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completely dispute that. Current story, people smugglers being

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targeted. This is the apparent... We are going to send a fleet of

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ships... The HMS is going to go to Libya, to try to catch 100 people

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smugglers. We had 3100 deaths this year, people coming in from Libya on

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boats, 13,000 people came over last week, a real problem, and it seems

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to be that they are saying they will send people down there to catch the

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people smugglers in Libya. I would say that is practically impossible,

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when you get there, you will deny that they were our people smugglers,

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the people smugglers themselves do not even get on the boat, they put

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the refugees on the boats and they tell a refugee that if they are in

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charge, steering the ship, with the mobile phone, they can get their

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half-price. The premise is what needs to be targeted. Stop those who

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are smuggling in the first place. Will it make any difference? There

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is a very bad record on this, we will always going to get the missed

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a bigs, especially when we had the scandal of the people coming across

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the Aegean Sea, we said that we were going to get smugglers back to

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Somali pirates and the Indian Ocean and all of that. -- Mr Bigs. What

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are they really doing, HMS Diamond will just have to pick up people

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because that is what the law of the sea is. And the Charter of human

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rights. They are not getting anywhere near it. What is very

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dangerous, this is turning into a 3-way contest, because there is a

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bit of shooting going on from what there is, and goodness knows who

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they really answer to, of the Libyan Navy. At the same time, you have

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American warships and an American led flotilla flying off to attack

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Isis, I think this is an awful lot of window dressing. The bit they

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have not got into, you are right, ten to 13,000, it is a large number

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being picked up, they are being shipped off to Sicily. Not hearing

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nearly enough about this, what happens? Lampedusa, Malta,

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completely overcrowded, moving them to the other big islands, like

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Sardinia, I do not know what will happen there will stop Corsica,

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relatively underpopulated. This is where they disappear and this is

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where numbers are quite boggling. They managed to close down the

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route, so they are going around the other way... As we were discussing

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before coming on air, this is a very different dynamic but it is a global

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phenomenon, and it is going on for a long time. Yes, we understand why

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ships are being sent down but it is not going to work. Leaving that,

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moving on to the Telegraph, modern life is killing children. This is

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one of those stories, of course it is all for that cancer rates among

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under 16s are up 40% but it makes you feel a bit despairing. Modern

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life is killing children. Bernd barbecues, electric fields, power

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lines, hairdryers... It really could not... It could not be any more

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depressing, air pollution, solvents, obesity, basically everything that

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any of us have ever used. Could it just be really good cancer

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detection? Very possible. This is a statistic story, it has come from

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statistics, from professor Dennis Central of Bristol University, his

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statistics are showing something that is alarming, up annually from

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ten children, contracting serious cancer, out of 100,000, up to 14,

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even in some areas 60. -- 40, 60. Improved detection we thought we

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were getting to a better stage of getting it early earlier on. This is

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worrying. From a journalistic point of view, it is written in a mad way,

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it is everything, apparently, you should not decorate your baby 's

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room, there is a danger for the paint, whatever you do, and yes, you

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should send them to school, playgroups, very early on, that is

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the way that they will contract diseases! Would you believe it, that

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is good for their immune system. That is a shopping trolley of a

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story. Especially when you read the list there are, a lot of people will

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be affected! It is not anything that anybody can do anything about. It is

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a despair story. Looking at the mail, this story here, Calle, very

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briefly, I want to get onto your story of Nicola Sturgeon, very

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worrying, quite frightening. Congratulations, the BBC has done

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some superb reporting. In a life-threatening situation, an

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accident caused by one of these gangs, of the refugees, from the

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jungle at Calais, moving along through their windscreen, collided

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with a truck, driven by a Hungarian, and I think that it is really...

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There is a crisis blowing up with the jungle, because the French

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Minister of the interior has said that they intend to close it down,

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they will do that soon, they have been talking about it for weeks. Not

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much time left, Nicola Sturgeon. The story in your magazine this week.

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I'm the editor of the Sunday Times Magazine, we have this moving story

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about Nicola Sturgeon, she had a miscarriage back in 2011, she has

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let the story come out because there has been so much around female

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politicians being childless, allegations levelled at her that she

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was too ambitious to have a family and she sees herself as a role model

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and would like young women to know that she wanted to have children and

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it did not happen for her, and that having a family is not

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irreconcilable with being First Minister. Very strong woman. All

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strong women, as we know, can also be vulnerable, this is a very

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personal story, but it is interesting and to her credit that

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she would like people to know this. There may also be some politics in

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this, in that... It is... Second referendum coming up, if she could

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win the deficit. I thought that sweetness and light was the order of

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the day with Brexit and Scotland. She does wonderfully well for this.

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Fascinating interview. She shows that she is a real politician. The

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fascinating thing about this, Ruth Davidson, it is not that they let it

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all hang out, they are real people, in a way that we are lacking in the

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village of Westminster. Not afraid to tell you, either. Lovely piece.

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Theresa May can learn something from the incredibly skilful way in which

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Nicola Sturgeon handles the media. Good of you both to come in for the

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newspapers, thank you very much. We will see you again soon. Don't

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forget, we have the newspapers every night here on BBC News. Now we will

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go to the Vatican, more than 100,000 pilgrims are gathering to watch Pope

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Francis, who has just formally declared Mother Teresa a saint.

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Mother Teresa, the nun who dedicated her life to helping the poor and

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sick in India. She is now Saint Teresa of Calcutta.

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Plenty more on all of that after the top of the hour, but here is the

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weather. On the whole, a better day for

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today, fantastic weather watchers

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