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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be | :00:13. | :00:15. | |
With me are business academic, Melanie Eusebe, and David Williams, | :00:16. | :00:24. | |
Political Editor of Wales Online and The Western Mail. | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
Good evening and thank you for being with us. | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
The Daily Mail leads with a story on grammar schools. | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
The front page article is dedicated to Theresa May's own | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
The same story on the The Daily Telegraph front page, together | :00:38. | :00:46. | |
with the iconic image of a naked girls running away from | :00:47. | :00:48. | |
The image from 1972 and the current controversy with Facebook taking it | :00:49. | :01:02. | |
It is one of the most iconic pictures in war photography. | :01:03. | :01:11. | |
The newspaper calls Facebook an "anti-social network" even though | :01:12. | :01:14. | |
the photo was reinstated after a global outcry. | :01:15. | :01:17. | |
The Express writes about West Midlands police constable | :01:18. | :01:20. | |
provoking anger after suggesting that officers could wear burkas. | :01:21. | :01:32. | |
The Times reports that the trade secretary Liam Fox has made an | :01:33. | :01:40. | |
attack on UK business leaders. He says the previous success has made | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
them "Lazy and fat" according to the Times. They lead on the second | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
accuser demanding to re-examine the sex abuse case involving Sir Cliff | :01:50. | :01:57. | |
Richard. Spokesmen for the singer say a quote from cliff reaffirms his | :01:58. | :01:58. | |
innocence. We will start with the Daily Mail | :01:59. | :02:07. | |
and they have the story about the grammar schools which has dominated | :02:08. | :02:11. | |
the stories for two or three days. This is particularly Theresa May's | :02:12. | :02:16. | |
personal depth of grammar schools -- personal debt. She was educated for | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
a while in a grammar school. The intent is to fix the apparent | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
unfairness in the school system today. I love to measure it by the | :02:26. | :02:32. | |
intent. However, there has been an outcry. This has been the most | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
controversial outcry since she has come into Government. | :02:37. | :02:43. | |
In a way, it has been her first big domestic policy pronouncement and it | :02:44. | :02:46. | |
has been controversial. I know it has. If you are going to | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
pick something which will inflame tensions in every direction, this is | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
the perfect issue. The Government only has a majority of 12 and yet | :02:56. | :03:01. | |
there is deep unease in the conservative ranks. Nicky Morgan is | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
raising deep concerns... The former Education Secretary. She | :03:06. | :03:08. | |
is quoted in one of the papers tomorrow saying it is we heard -- it | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
is weird. That is quite a condemnation. | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
That has probably done more to unify Labour ranks than anyone on the | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
opposition benches in weeks. Well it's break a popular chord with | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
the public and voters? There are few things lacking about | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
it. It seems to have come out of left field. One of the claims people | :03:32. | :03:35. | |
make is that, where is the mandate for this? It was not in the | :03:36. | :03:38. | |
manifesto so where did it come from? Number two, where is the data? If we | :03:39. | :03:44. | |
look at other countries, we do not necessarily know for certain at | :03:45. | :03:50. | |
grammar schools, will aid fixed in equity and unfairness in our school | :03:51. | :03:53. | |
system? Without that, it feels like it has come out of left field and I | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
am not sure how it will be received by the general public. | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
David, you enter a grammar school in Northern Ireland when there are a | :04:03. | :04:04. | |
lot of grammar schools. Yes, it is a part of the system. I | :04:05. | :04:11. | |
went to a grammar school there. I don't think I have done an exam | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
since the age of 11 when I felt such terror. It was as if life would be | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
determined by what would happen in the exam. | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
Does it work in Northern Ireland, that system? | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
The system used to be pretty much written in the 1950s and early | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
1960s. It has been shaken up and everyone of my generation says it is | :04:32. | :04:40. | |
a mess. There is a deep sense that it is neither fish nor fowl. | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
You talked about the terror of doing the 11 plus, which I failed, so you | :04:45. | :04:52. | |
have one on me there. The Mail asked out of interest, about the 11 plus, | :04:53. | :04:59. | |
they have given 11 plus questions. Let us ask the viewers and you guys | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
if you wish to take part. I will ask you one of the questions from the | :05:04. | :05:05. | |
English section because we were doing this in the office and people | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
were filling miserably. Question two, and I will come back at the | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
very end of this paper review. If you watch at home, this is your | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
question. Which of these four words is closest in meaning to Cingular? | :05:20. | :05:26. | |
It is a multiple-choice answer. Which of these words is closest in | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
meaning to Cingular? Is it a, strange? B, loud, C, quiet, D, | :05:33. | :05:40. | |
lonely. Which of those words is closest in meaning to singular? | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
Strange, loud, quiet or a lonely? That is your starter for ten and I | :05:46. | :05:48. | |
will come back at the end for an answer. Embarrassing if you do not | :05:49. | :05:56. | |
know. Let us get onto the Express, away from grammar schools. This is | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
fury at police in burqas. The Express say that the West Midlands | :06:03. | :06:09. | |
Chief Constable has been widely condemned by suggesting police | :06:10. | :06:12. | |
officers could wear a burqas. Where do you stand? | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
Let's be clear. All he said was that, I am not going to rule it out. | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
Yes. That is all he said and there has | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
not been an instance of a woman who has applied wearing a burqa. He is | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
just saying, let us not rule it out right now. But the response is | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
quite... Quite uniformly no in this article. They said they went to the | :06:38. | :06:44. | |
Muslim Council of Britain and said it would be against female officers | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
wearing full face burqas. Not necessarily just race or religion | :06:50. | :06:55. | |
-based outcry by it, you know what? Women who are wearing burqas | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
probably would not want to apply to the police in the first place. I | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
agree with Mr Thomson. He said, in the instance that it may occur, let | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
us not just say no. Let's talk about it. | :07:09. | :07:11. | |
Let's think about it and deal with the issue when it comes up. | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
The Police Federation spokesman said, any piece of uniform must be | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
fit for purpose and not obstruct or hinder an officer in carrying out | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
normal duties. Do you think the burqa would hinder a police officer | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
from their duties? One example somebody raises in this | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
interrogation situation is good to see a person's face? Unimaginable. | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
In some ways, the Chief Constable is probable sitting right now thinking, | :07:39. | :07:46. | |
what did I say? However, the force is apparently on a drive to recruit | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
800 officers of which they went 30% to be from ethnic minorities. If you | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
are looking to get a massive storm of publicity, it has been | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
successful. You could imagine somebody applying | :08:01. | :08:03. | |
to the police and saying, I would like to wear a burqa. | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
Yes, exactly it is not inconceivable. If we go back to our | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
recent history. In several countries, we used to have an outcry | :08:13. | :08:22. | |
or protest around Sikh officers being allowed to wear turbans and be | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
part of the force. What is needed in the capability of a police officer | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
and police staff? If it means my face needs to be visible in regards | :08:32. | :08:38. | |
to interrogation or temerity relations, let's talk about it. | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
That should be the only criteria? Yes, what is the core capability? | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
Will be burqa remind us from performing that job. | :08:49. | :08:50. | |
You are just back from holiday on the continent, right? There is a | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
story in the Guardian you might be interested in which is an end to | :08:56. | :09:02. | |
these free travel in Europe, potentially, according to the | :09:03. | :09:11. | |
Guardian. -- visa - free travel in Europe. | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
Did not make much of it because I thought, is it news? | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
It is in a newspaper, it must be! Surprise, surprise. That is | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
happening everywhere else in the world. Being a joint Canadian and | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
United Kingdom citizen, just because I am part of Canada, I know I can | :09:31. | :09:37. | |
travel for free into the US. But as a UK citizen, I would have to get a | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
Visa. It is a form of prescreening so that we know who is crossing | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
borders. And it is happening everywhere else in the world, so it | :09:48. | :09:50. | |
is a consequence of the vote we have taken that we are adhering to. | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
Surprise, surprise. It is not a huge deal. | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
The font does not need to be so big on that story. | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
Not as big a story is the grammar school story which they relegated to | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
second story. What do you make of the visa- free travel, an end that? | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
Really waking up to the fact that Brexit is pulling at the string at | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
the jumper of Europe. No one knows how this will unravel. | :10:20. | :10:29. | |
A very good analogy. And the Telegraph, that is also on the whole | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
Brexit theme. They have a story saying that Brussels believes it can | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
make Britain beg. Britain says there Europe editor has become completely | :10:42. | :10:44. | |
lost since the Brexit vote, according to European Commission | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
officials. It can eventually be expected to plead for a deal when it | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
realises the wickets of its position at the negotiating table. Is that a | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
likely scenario? -- when it realises the weakness of its position. | :11:00. | :11:06. | |
Again, I think it is more a surprise, surprise a story for me. | :11:07. | :11:17. | |
We... It seems quite... In terms of making Britain beg... Again, going | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
back to our story in regards to the visa required for travel, this is | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
the... What did we think was going to happen? We are splitting apart | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
from the rest of the EU. People want to move on, whether you voted yes or | :11:32. | :11:39. | |
no Mac. -- whether you voted yes or no. I need to hear the context of | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
the comments. What we do know is once article 50 | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
is triggered there are a two years of negotiations, whether that | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
includes begging or making everybody beg... | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
There is a narrative building of a European Commission which is trying | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
to tell other countries, don't even think of negotiating with Britain a | :12:03. | :12:08. | |
separate trades deal if you want one with us. It is like a Mafia jungle | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
situation. They do not want other countries to | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
do their own version of Brexit. It is in their interest to make it not | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
too easy. They cannot make it too easy. But we | :12:22. | :12:30. | |
do have to be careful in... Right now, no one has done anything and | :12:31. | :12:36. | |
there is a lot of talk. I think there is a time when we have two is | :12:37. | :12:43. | |
Dart talking and I understand everyone, particularly the EU is | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
saying... Look, we have a vote, and even though you were not well | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
prepared, these are the consequences. Let's keep it moving. | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
We do not want the UK to be able to negotiate in advanced trade terms | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
with other countries. Of course, because we are still united in a | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
certain sense, it will impact the continent. | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
OK... It is a tough situation. | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
The Telegraph had this picture which is such an iconic picture from | :13:12. | :13:14. | |
Vietnam. Many people will be familiar with this back from 1972 | :13:15. | :13:22. | |
and the napalm attack on a young girl, naked, running away from the | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
napalm attack. The row is that Facebook banned it or wanted it | :13:27. | :13:35. | |
pixilated. There was a protest against them and is now Facebook | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
have backed down. What do you make of this? It is one of the most | :13:39. | :13:45. | |
famous examples of Great War photography ever, is it not? | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
Yes, this is the image photojournalists regard as one of | :13:51. | :13:53. | |
the defining images where it turned popular opinion conclusively, in | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
many areas. Against the war, it was turned. The idea that napalm was | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
being dropped and had this effect on innocent people. It shipped foreign | :14:05. | :14:07. | |
and domestic policy. Are Facebook showing their | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
ignorance? They do not understand the difference between a picture | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
like that and is a great historic importance and just a naked picture | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
of a girl? 99% of the stories Facebook find | :14:22. | :14:28. | |
themselves in fronting as when they shouted at for not taking things | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
down. You can see why they would have a blanket policy that | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
occasionally leads the situation -- to this type of situation. You can | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
feel an element of sympathy. Do you feel like that? | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
I think it is about how you monitor and legislate against intent. It is | :14:48. | :14:53. | |
difficult, with the amount of users Facebook has on its platform, there | :14:54. | :14:58. | |
has to be some sort of blanket protection against, you know, to | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
protect vulnerable parts of our population, including children. I | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
understand why, initially, there would be a ban. But once the Prime | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
Minister of Norway says, wait a minute, what are you doing here? | :15:17. | :15:22. | |
Then they backed down. And reasonably quickly. | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
On the other hand, we do know that neither is Facebook or Twitter or | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
other social media platforms... They could be taking more activity in | :15:34. | :15:35. | |
terms of legislation and monitoring inappropriate content. At the end of | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
the day, I think that with the technology, it is not sophisticated | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
enough to measure what is in peoplepeople's heart. | :15:46. | :15:51. | |
This image of photojournalism, right now, run the world lots of people | :15:52. | :15:57. | |
are not official journalists but just civilians who happen to have | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
camera phones. If they take the equivalent picture that is in front | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
of them, how is that going to be adjudicated? | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
A word about the Times. An interesting front putting Liam Fox, | :16:10. | :16:14. | |
trade Secretary, caught in an off-guard moment according to the | :16:15. | :16:21. | |
Times. Making an attack on British business leaders, saying they are | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
too lazy and fat. Apparently... | :16:26. | :16:28. | |
He will not make friends with that kind of comment. | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
There is some suggestion that what is at play here is... There is a | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
debate about post-Brexit Britain. Do we want to do everything we can to | :16:38. | :16:40. | |
stay in the single market? We know how it works and it is cosy and | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
safe. There will be plenty challenges but the rules of the game | :16:46. | :16:52. | |
are understood. There are the First Ministers of parts of the UK | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
including Wales saying, essential to stay in. Then there are the | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
buccaneering 's free-market people who hate any idea of that and love | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
the idea of Britain going it alone on the ocean waves. The perception | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
is that, perhaps, Liam Fox is closer to that. | :17:11. | :17:13. | |
And he says people need to stop thinking about exporting as an | :17:14. | :17:15. | |
opportunity and start thinking that it is a duty. That is the thought of | :17:16. | :17:24. | |
Liam Fox. Let's take you back to the 11-Plus quiz, which I know our | :17:25. | :17:29. | |
viewers have all done very well with our little quiz. One question. Which | :17:30. | :17:33. | |
of these words is closest in meaning to singular? Strange, loud, quite a | :17:34. | :17:40. | |
lonely? I was hoping you had forgot. | :17:41. | :17:46. | |
As a man who... I said lonely. | :17:47. | :17:54. | |
You said lonely? OK. I am leaning in the same direction. | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
OK, you think lonely as well. OK. The answer, I'm afraid, because you | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
passed your 11-Plus but would have filled this one, it is strange. | :18:05. | :18:11. | |
Strange is the word that is closest in meaning to singular. A single | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
man, a single woman... That is difficult. A singular | :18:17. | :18:20. | |
instance would be... A tricky one at age 11. You both | :18:21. | :18:28. | |
failed but you passed the discussion on The Papers. | :18:29. | :18:30. | |
Don't forget all the front pages are online on the BBC News website | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
where you can read a detailed review of the papers. | :18:36. | :18:37. | |
It's all there for you - 7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers - | :18:38. | :18:40. | |
with each night's edition of The Papers being posted | :18:41. | :18:45. | |
on the page shortly after we've finished. | :18:46. | :18:46. | |
Thank you, Melanie Eusebe and David Williams. | :18:47. | :18:49. |