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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be


With me are the broadcaster, Shyama Perera and the lawyer, Andrew Kidd.


As we have them at the moment. The Financial Times reports on the


possible purchase of Twitter. Both Google and Salesforce are in talks


to buy the social media platform. The independent reports on the


Labour leader, saying that polls reveal many are not keen on Jeremy


Corbyn. The Daily Mail claims doctors can work in the UK without


safety checks. The Times reports on a ledge at passport fraud on the


dark web. A new British Bill of Rights will ensure that service men


and women will no longer be subject to European human rights laws on the


battlefield. The Daily Express calls the mind blowing arrogance of


European president Martin Schulz. The Guardian says one in seven


takeaway restaurants fails basic hygiene tests. We're going to be


talking about a few of those stories, but let us kick off with


the Defence Secretary talking about British troops being the victims of


a witchhunt, and that a legal cases being brought against them from


things that have happened on the battlefield. Iraq and Afghanistan,


particularly. This really captures people's attentions, and people feel


strongly about this. Rightly, that our service men and women are doing


a job protecting our country and then they are being dragged through


the courts in these really difficult cases. And Michael Fallon here is


saying that it's going to come to an end. I think a lot of people will


support that. And he is saying that the European legislation will be


replaced by a British Bill of Rights and there will be a limitation


period, so there will be a long stop date after which these cases cannot


be brought. So pleased that will give certainty to these service men


and women -- so at least that will. So pleased that is a positive thing.


Some people will say that soldiers have to have legal constraints. Of


course they do, and that is what separates us. We fight fair, we have


rules that we and our soldiers stick to. The problem is not that there is


a rich witchhunt, the problem is that there are lawyers like Andrew,


presumably, there are loopholes in the law that allow them to chase


after soldiers and accuse them of stuff. As has been suggested


recently, almost perniciously. One company has closed down as a result


of that. It is not actually a rich witchhunt, it is an expert


annotation of fair laws -- it is not actually a witchhunt, it is an


exploitation. It's not what we do that is wrong, it is the way that we


have been doing it. One point Michael Fallon makes is that it's


not only worrying, intimidating to use his words, for soldiers who


retrospectively think they might be prosecuted for something. But also


for people who are serving now. They are worried about in the future,


they could possibly be prosecuted for something. So does have an


impact potentially on morale, I suppose? Inevitably. There has to be


accountability. Nobody is saying we remove accountability. It is just


striking the right balance between accountability and allowing our


service men and women to do their job. At the end of the day, we're


giving them a weapon and telling them to go into a war zone. And keep


us safe. Has that balance been tilted too much? It seems to me...


Human rights gets a bad press in the UK, let's face it. But it's our


observance of human rights which separates us from the bad guys.


Absolutely. We can't contemplate bad use of good laws with morality. Did


that bad guy deserves a beating? Yes, we probably all think secretly


and some publicly that he did. But should our soldiers have done it?


Well, you know, that is what separates us from the other side. I


notice very interestingly that Michael Fallon is quoted at the end


talking about the Russians and what's going on in Syria. He says if


it was a mistake, Russia should apologise. If it was deliberate,


then the Russian commanders should be turned in for prosecution.


Actually, that's all that's happening here. When somebody has


transgressed, they are being turned into a prosecution. What has upset


us is that people are exploiting this to make what appeared to be


pernicious allegation against individual. Let us go on The Times.


A different story about the dark web, saying that forged British


passports and things like driving licences, even GCSE certificates,


are being sold on hidden Internet websites in the so-called dark web


or the deep Web, whatever you want to call it. We have known for a long


time that all sorts of things and weapons and drugs, whatever, are


sold on the dark web. Children. Everything. Is that, not a


particularly shocking revelation perhaps? I suppose not. We were


saying before, we weren't entirely sure the dark web was. Rewound


absolutely sure the story was, either. We have just come from all


of those, you know, my daughters when they were younger got fake


driver 's licenses. It didn't cost them ?100, it cost them ?20. Maybe


get a better class of false driving licences if you go on the dark web.


Takes a bit of a sinister tone if you read the article. Jihadists are


known to be adept at using the technology and share guides on how


to do it. They share weapons and class a drugs and those things are


stoically late in the stop rather -- are circulating. These things are


circulating across the world. They all things like Islamic state. A lot


of criminals. Just to explain to anyone who doesn't know the dark web


is, it's like the Internet, but below the surface, isn't it? And it


is encrypted, that is the key. That is the key. There is a degree of


secrecy involved. Journalists might not use the dark web, but they will


use those levels of encryption. They delete that kind of onion state


which doesn't allow people to access what they are doing. In that sense,


it is a sole source for good. Brilliancy, it can be figured. Here


is being used for bad -- previously can be for good. You're not


impressed with that for a front page from The Times. I prefer the picture


of Jeremy Paxman above it. He says he hated his dad, at least he knew


him! We weren't going to too much detail about Jeremy Paxman's father.


It is featuring exclusive extracts from his autobiography. Now, the


Guardian newspaper is looking ahead to the Labour Party conference. We


are going to get the leadership result tomorrow. Will it be Evan


Smith? Will it be Jeremy Corbyn? All money seems to be an Jeremy Corbyn.


This is another story that is very interesting, stating the obvious,


Labour's divisions will become irreconcilable and the damage to the


putty terminal if it enters another bitter year infighting. -- to the


party turn terminal. That is from someone who is not a Corbyn fan as


such. He got dispatched as part of that initial leadership... Is this


paper says, he has remained neutral during the leadership race. He is


saying Labour will only be able to heal if there are serious


concessions from the leader. He is looking for some sort of compromise


between the two wings of the party. Mr Corbyn has said there is an olive


tree outside his office. Not so much an olive branch, but he is prepared


to offer some softening on his policies. But it remains to be seen


what form that will take. You would have a hard time arguing that he was


trying his best in terms of communications. His approach to


Brexit was along similar lines, or his approach to campaigning for a


Remain. If you put as much effort into bringing the party back


together as he did for that,... 7.5. It looks like he will win. What is


your perception of that what will mean for the Labour Party? The next


election it will be touch and go for the Labour Party. I would have said


two months ago if they carry on like this, they will lose the next


election without question. Now that Theresa May has started pushing her


own agenda, I actually think it could be 50-50 by the time we get to


the ballot box. They will both lose ground. You a Jeremy Corbyn Labour


Party could win the next election? I think if the Tories carry on in the


way they have the last couple of weeks, yes. OK. On that subject of


the Labour Party, have a cartoon in the Telegraph. We like to feature


these cartoons because they are so good. It is just a very simple


policeman being asked for directions in Liverpool. To the Labour


conference, says the policeman, turn left, then further left. I should be


doing this on this girl 's accent! Then much more left, and it's on


your left. -- in a Scouse accent. Your crimes staggered that she


thinks that Mr Corbyn has any chance. -- I am just staggered. Look


at the evidence, look at the polls. He can't even bring his party


together, and nevertheless the country. I think that she is somehow


crippling the Tories. She has just brought in to much that was not on


the manifesto. She's taking them off somewhere else together, grammar


schools. What did she do this we? I forgotten already, but she keeps


taking them off message. That's not going to be enough to hand victory


to Corbyn, let's face it. I think you get a 50-50, I think you'd get


another coalition. Or a demolition, I think it would be! Not a coalition


between Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn, I don't think. The Financial


Times have a story about Twitter. I don't know if you guys are on


Twitter, but it looks like it could be up for sale with Salesforce and


Google in talks to buy it. What you think that? Well, yes. We were


reading this before. I was just surprised at how much bigger


Facebook is then Twitter. I used Twitter so much more than I use


Facebook. But it says here that Facebook is 24 times larger than


Twitter. And snapped at also has a higher valuation. Twitter have been


flat-lining and struggling to get new users. They have been talk about


loosening the 140 characters. At the moment, I like it. It's snappy,


punchy. If you turn it into a blog, where there is no character limit,


that may make it... What's a lot? May be daily, I tweet. It's a great


way of interacting. I think there is a big difference between Twitter and


sites like Facebook. Facebook is about the heart, people obsessing or


pining. Twitter is about the head. Little thoughts that come out,


pieces of news, information. It's not really a conversation. Do you


like Twitter? I love Twitter and I don't like Facebook. I much prefer


sharing what in my head than what's in my heart. I think this is


interesting. You're doing both tonight 's. So you think! I think


this is interesting, because where does Twitter go? They won't monetise


Twitter, they won't put ads in. The Financial Times is saying it is


valued at $16 billion. Which is brilliant money. There are 70


people. There must be a way to actually start influencing those


people. -- there are so many people. We will see what happens to Twitter.


Will it be sold, will it not? The Daily Mail have a question for EU


doctors. They say thousands of EU doctors can work in the United


Kingdom without basic state if the checks, according to a watchdog


warning today. -- basic safety checks. Is that a worry? The


headline is a worry. I mean, the Daily Mail supported Brexit and they


are sort of continuing with that line. Niall Dickson, the head of the


GMC is saying that the loophole needs... General medical Council.


The he says there is a genuine worry when it comes to protecting the


public. We can't check their competencies and EU policy rules.


Language can't be tested. -- EU equality rules. The body call for


this loophole to be closed. Yeah, on the facts that we have here, it is


worrying. I know, but what they are not saying is why this is an issue


at this minute. Is it because European doctors are accidentally


knocking us all off and we're all disappearing from GP surgeries


because we no longer exist? Or we are all in hospital beds that, you


know, and it's down to European GPs not to diagnosing us? Or is it just


another bit of fluff? It's relevant now because we're all talking about


article 50 and when will it be invoked. The Daily Mail is keeping


the Brexit... Dickson is a former BBC correspondent. He's obviously,


you know. Let us stick to health. The Guardian have something


potentially alarming. If you're watching this on a Friday


night a takeaway on the sofa, you might be a bit alarmed to know that


one in seven take aways fail hygiene tests, according to the Guardian


analysis. The ten worst areas, apparently, are the London boroughs


of new, Edinburgh, Shetland Islands, Islington, Lancashire, Harrow


Midlothian, Luton and Ealing in west London. They are full of fried


chicken shops! I thought this was quite fun and also very worrying.


I'm sure we've all got kids who come in late at night with things in


plastic containers that really don't look edible at all. Not just the


kids! I live in Islington and I'm certainly not having a takeaway on


the way home. I'm very choosy where I get my take aways. I think you


have to be very careful. I used to frequent a Chinese restaurant a lot


near where we lived. And suddenly in all the newspapers was a photograph


of a mouse in their sweet and sour sauce, running up the wall. The


photograph was taken by food hygiene inspectors which closed the


restaurant down City months, and it is still going strong. I have to


say, it really made us think as a family unit. -- down for two months.


You fiend then? Trying to eat healthy. But inevitably... Do you


like a takeaway curry? Occasionally, yes. Occasionally I indulge. It's


not a crime! You don't need to be so defensive. It's allowed. Fish finger


sandwiches. If you're watching at home, enjoy your takeaway. Thank you


so much for being with us, very good to have you on the programme.


Don't forget all the front pages are online on the BBC News website


where you can read a detailed review of the papers.


It's all there for you - seven days a week at bbc dot co uk


with each night's edition of The Papers being posted


on the page shortly after we've finished.


Thank you to our guests. And from me, goodbye.


It's been a fine Friday for many of us, but the weather's been on the


turn across the North West of Scotland. It is quite wet here from


this weather front. This very long weather front extends way out from


the Atlantic. On either side of it,


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