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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are the political editor of the Sunday Express,

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Caroline Wheeler, and the political commentator Jo Phillips.

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The Sunday Telegraph has an interview with former

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Prime Minister Tony Blair, in which he says inquiries

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into alleged abuses by British troops should never

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David Cameron's former spin doctor is quoted

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in the Mail on Sunday, where he reveals divisions sprang up

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between Cameron and Theresa May during the Brexit campaign.

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London's mayor Sadiq Khan claims in the Sunday Times that divisions

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in the Labour Party could lead to a split.

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The Sunday Express says the detective who brought double

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murderer Christopher Halliwell to justice believes he may also have

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killed the missing chef Claudia Lawrence.

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And the Sun reports that TV presenter Zoe Ball and her DJ

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husband Norman Cook are separating after 18 years together.

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Let us begin and start with the Sunday Times. Following on from the

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big story of the day, Jeremy Corbyn's re-election of the Labour

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leader. Sadiq Khan saying that a purge by Jeremy Corbyn could kill

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Labour. You think there will be a purge? I think I am not alone in

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thinking that the call for unity and wiping the slate clean up going to

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be very hard to deliver with the people involved and who are

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supporting Jeremy Corbyn. He has got huge support, he has an increased

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majority, beating Owen Smith comp reactively. He has got a mandate

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from the hundreds of thousands of people who have joined the Labour

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Party, but the question is, are they actually going to work with the

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shadow cabinet and the MPs in Parliament? Because without the

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support of the MPs in Parliament he hasn't actually got an effective

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opposition. He is just a leading protest group. Caroline, you have a

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story from the Sunday express. And you are saying there could

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effectively be a shadow cabinet in exile, so Labour moderates will be

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on the backbenches running a sort of shadow, shadow cabinet? Exactly. If

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you have spoken to any senior voices with a Labour Party recently they

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have been scratching their heads about where they can go next. They

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tried this fairly dramatic coup, which has backfired. It has made

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Jeremy Corbyn stronger, rather than weaker. It hasn't now he is in a

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position to start purging the party using boundary changes, as an

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opportunity to get rid off moderates. You think he will do

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that? Those are the indications we have been given, Batty has this

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opportunity to reintroduce shadow cabinet elections and doesn't look

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like he's desperately inclined to do that, which basically means he will

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be appointed cabinet. It remains to be seen whether he will be able to

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muster enough MPs to sit in at shadow cabinet and fulfil those

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roles, but we understand, and I've spoken to numerous moderates, who

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say actually they still think they have a role in the party, although

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not necessarily within the Jeremy Corbyn camp to hold Theresa May's

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government to account and they say they are various ways in which they

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can do this, one of them is sitting in internal policy committees,

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coming up with new ideas and in essence generating a kind of

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ulterior agenda for the Labour Party, even potentially an ulterior

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whipping system where they can counter selective education and

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bandwidth there are moderate MPs to vote in a certain way. It's a

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fascinating proposal. It is, but the question that you have to ask is why

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don't you put your tribalism to one side and actually go in with the

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Liberal Democrats? And just worry about the name later. I know a lot

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of Labour people would think that is madness, but everything is there,

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the structure is there. Just do it, because then you would automatically

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then become the opposition. You ask a question about the moderates

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regularly. There is this movement by Paddy Ashdown which is trying to

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unite the left and become a centrist party and get when you speak to any

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of the moderates and ask whether this is something they are

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considering, the answer usually comes back that no decision Labour

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Party and they aren't prepared to move away from that, but will limp

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on as they are under Jeremy Corbyn. Moving from divisions within the

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Labour Party to divisions within the Conservative Party. The Mail on

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Sunday have what they called the explosive book by Number 10's

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insider, David Cameron's former spin doctor. Watch the you make of these

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revelations in which apparently David Cameron begged Theresa May to

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come off the fence over Brexit but she refused so often. One of

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Cameron's allies asked if she was secretly an enemy agent. Really? It

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is colourful language and explosive, a Mail on Sunday serialisation of a

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book. They paid a lot of money for it because it probably won't sell

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many books, but you would think that these people had something better to

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do than keeping meticulous notes or reading other people's text messages

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but this bombshell exposures... David Cameron has a book, everyone

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else has a book. Tim Shipman is a journalist! Exactly. This is all

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really about, as Caroline said before, this wouldn't be about

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Theresa May if she wasn't the Prime Minister. They've picked on the bits

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about her apparently failing to support David Cameron on 13 separate

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occasions which are then detailed in large print. Her sphinxlike approach

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is becoming difficult. You know... We knew all of that, didn't we? We

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knew she was playing a clever game which in the end paid off. But also

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is his thing about personalities. There was never a sense that there

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was any warmth between Theresa May and David Cameron. The fact that she

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is the longest serving Home Secretary since the Second World War

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and is actually regarded to have done a very good job and been a

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steady pair of hands on many things, but she has made some quite

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devastating attacks on the public school boys. That said David Cameron

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was involved in it. It is also about rewriting history, knowing now that

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we have Theresa May as the Prime Minister. At the relegation that are

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more interesting are not the ones about Theresa May, but those that we

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picked out before, this idea that Boris Johnson said these text

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messages just nine minutes before he said he was going to campaign for

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the leadership. Essentially saying, don't worry, David, I will campaign

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for Leave, but we will be crushed. There's no chance will win. This

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kind of duplicitous as is staggering. Tim Shipman has a book

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as well. Briefly run through what that is saying about what happened

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between David Cameron and Theresa May. It is the same sort of thing.

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David Cameron branded Theresa May livid after he said she would drop

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plans of immigration. This goes back to 2014 when David Cameron was

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planning to make a speech. He wanted to come in with a very tough deal,

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and emergency brake on the number of EU migrants, but it was well-known

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that Angela Merkel wouldn't have accepted that, and so David Cameron

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did a deal which was cutting the benefits to new arrivals. But again

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this is sort of rewriting history slightly to say that because Philip

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Hammond, who was the then Foreign Secretary, and Theresa May refused

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to back David Cameron, but what they did say is that you would look a bit

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of it it if you stand up there and say this and then Angela Merkel

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says, don't be ridiculous! The final point while we are on internal

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divisions, David Cameron and Michael Gove, who were huge friends, and the

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men and their wives have been close for more than a decade according to

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the Sunday Telegraph. And they haven't spoken since Brexit,

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apparently. I am not desperately surprised by that at all. It is well

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known they were close, and the Prime Minister did feel an enormous sense

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of betrayal and felt Michael Gove was going to have his back in this.

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He knew he was a Brexiteer and as far as understand Michael Gove had

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led him to believe he was going to play a more genial role in the

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campaign and the Prime Minister was genuinely staggered to find out that

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he was then going to be the sort of many head of Leave and was going to

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lead the campaign and that came as a blow to him. But of course there

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were other unsavoury things said, all about their relationship in

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various newspaper columns by Michael Gove's wife that wouldn't have gone

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down well. There was apparently an attempt by Michael Gove to make

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ridges with Boris Johnson, although I understand some of those overtures

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have been rejected. The bridges have not been built. I imagine Boris

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Johnson would delight in saying he is too busy. But of course he has

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actually done quite well out of it. Boris Johnson has had the second

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life as the Foreign Secretary and is doing quite well. And Michael Gove

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less so. Less so. He does cut quite a lonely figure these days. I am

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sure you choose him up when we say hello. We just a cost everybody we

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see. You will talk to anybody! You should be careful! Talking about

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some of the more important issues, like what will happen to The Great

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British Bake Off. The Sunday Times says the BBC are turning off the

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heat with a rival programme, the gloss of course they have got three

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of the stars still, but you wonder whether that is allowed under the

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copyright rules. Yes, I presume the copyright belongs to the company

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that came up with the format. The BBC did it, took a gamble, it has

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been hugely successful and the company had sold that format. That's

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what happens in television. It seems the BBC is cooking up something. In

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terms of a rival show. You won't have to do much, because they have

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got the main ingredients. You just need to tinker with the format a

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little bit, change the name, Strictly Come Baking. What else did

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we come up with? It could be the Hairy Bakers. Absolutely. And let's

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talk about Strictly. Poor old Ed Balls made his debut and it didn't

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go too well. Maybe this is where Michael Gove should go. This is

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about careers for politicians, when life beckons beyond... They do like

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to line these people up. We all love an underdog and generally we could

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see that a mile off, that he made bigger said underdog. But it is the

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British thing of thinking he is a good sport, he doesn't mind making a

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full lock himself. After the debut, he is bottom of the leaderboard, I'm

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afraid. They said he was quite conservative. I must say the

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trousers look very uncomfortable. He is apparently madly disappointed.

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I'm not sure what he was expecting. I would have thought that even in

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your wildest dreams you are not going to be top. Good sport for

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trying. He will be in panto somewhere this Christmas. This is

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where politicians and up. And Celebrity Big Brother and all those

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other things. Coming up next, it's

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The Film Review.

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