25/09/2016 The Papers

Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

With me are the Political Commentator Vincent Moss

and Ian Birrell who's a contributing editor at the Mail on Sunday.

The Sunday Telegraph interviews the former

Prime Minister Tony Blair, who says inquiries into alleged

abuses by British troops should never have been ordered.

David Cameron's former spin doctor is quoted in the Mail on Sunday,

where he reveals divisions sprang up between Cameron and Theresa May

in the Sunday Times that divisions in the Labour party

The Sunday Express says the detective who brought double

murderer Christopher Halliwell to justice believes he may also

have killed the missing chef Claudia Lawrence.

And the Sun reports that Zoe Ball and Norman Cook are separating

Jeremy Corbyn's victory is the Observer's lead.

It says Labour's leader intends to give more power

Let's look at that story first. More power to the members, not the

members of Parliament but the members of the party. This is his

dilemma. A huge victory. MPs have strategically blundered over this

but how is he going to communicate with the rest of the people who are

not members of the Labour Party? That is a big challenge. What the

Observer is talking about is trying to win back the PLP, get them back

on board. They seem to be insisting on wanting Shadow Cabinet elections.

Jeremy Corbyn and his allies realised they could lose a lot of

the power within the centre of the party if that happens. Talk about

giving the power to the members, he is talking about giving the people

who voted for him a chance to have a say in Shadow Cabinet elections. All

those people who quit Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow cabinets, who helped

him run the show, will they come back and support and work with them?

The big thing you will see today at the Labour conference, is that very

few big hitters have yet said that they are prepared to go back and

work with them. That is very significant. Looking out at the

other way, they have suffered a huge reverse occurs they look weak and on

the wrong side of party history. They're in a weaker position now

than they were before hands. They have not just failed but fails

badly. Some of them will crawl back into the shadow cabinets, others

won't. None of the issues have been resolved. The only difference is

that Jeremy Corbyn is in a slightly stronger position than he was before

the coup. Now I think they're... Jeremy Corbyn will go on and MPs

have to make a decision to stick with this, split, joint and unify

behind the party and realise that the party has changed. You never

hear any adjusting policies coming from the mainstream labour movement.

For all their talk of wanted to control the party and talk of the

centre ground, which is obviously correct because you win elections in

the centre, it's hard to think of any adjusting policies coming out of

these whingeing Labour MPs. On that point, whingeing MPs or otherwise,

also in the Observer, John McDonnell, Shadow Chancellor, claims

Labour's summer of vitriol is behind it. The party must be said for a

snap election. We are supposed to have a fixed term parliaments, but

you could see a scenario where Theresa May says she needs the

support of the country, because she has never been elected as Prime

Minister through a national mandate. Exit of the biggest decision of our

lifetimes, maybe she have to go to the country next year because there

are my Brexit plans and please endorse them. McDonald might be

right. There is always a possibility but with MPs, you have for years job

security until 2020. You won't see many MPs endorsing snap elections.

You will see that pressure in a media and certain Labour characters

talking about that, because there is a theory that if you want to get rid

of Jeremy Corbyn you do that quickest through a snap election,

which means that if Labour loses, he would presumably have a new leader.

John McDonnell also recognises that people are talking about these

things and they has to get ahead of it. I take some issue with what he

said about the backbenchers in the Labour Party. A lot of those have

done very good work on things like immigration. Yvette Cooper. I think

you are right about what you say about the policy vacuum. Normally

there would be a grid of stories for any party conference but this is all

about process and power in the Labour Party. Corbyn and John

McDonnell have little to say about policy and this would normally be a

rich scene of stories on the BBC and in the media, different minister on

everyday talking about the new policy. The in higher vacuum there

because all the focus is on these internal matter nations. And also at

a time when Britain is reshaping its relationship with the world over the

next two or three, or for five years. We don't have a functioning

opposition which is challenging the government. Conservative MPs have

expressed to me their concern about this, I do feel that they need

somebody to offer a decent opposition. Sadiq Khan, again on the

same kind of story, about process. Sunday Times, Sadiq Khan, Corbyn

purge could kill Labour. The Corbyn mood music is absolutely not of a

purge., rows and have a chat. Yes, that it would be strange if the mood

music was about a purge. Sadiq Khan is for an away the most credible

challenger to Corbyn and positioning himself very skilfully as a

potential alternative leader, who has a record of success and could

unify to some extent the party. I think that's what this is about, it

is Sadiq Khan reminding us that he is in play and he is there. You got

more votes than Jeremy Corbyn among the general electorate of London.

And he is also a winner which is the key thing. He has shown how to do

that and how Labour can do that. Albeit it's a metropolitan area that

he has all the recipe for success. He is warning in this piece about

the risk of the party 's blessing. This is a plea to the moderates,

don't go away, we don't want a repeat of the 1980s and the FTP.

This is a plea for unity from a different wing and a more successful

point of view than the same messages coming out from... I think it feels

very different from the 1980s. Jeremy Corbyn is no Michael foot,

for a start. It is a much more fever of media, different electorate. More

fundamental differences. I think the chances of success in a multiparty

system, which could emerge out of all the various things happening in

politics, or more profound. Labour is clearly becoming a protest

movement of the left in the way it has changed in the last 1.5 years.

There is a role for a body of centre-left social Democrats,

possibly even sharpening -- possibly chant beginning...

This is the view of Mr Corbyn's supporters, if they stop whingeing

and complaining, some of the policies being developed in the

party would get more air time on programmes like this. That might

happen but despite -- despite this talk of unity, what does MPs will

want to see if they're practising what they preach and an end to what

has been the bullying and imitation across social media. The leadership

will make more noise on that but Labour MPs have had to have their

locks changed as security alarms installed because of this and

anti-Semitic anger from people who have supported the Corbyn. Until

they see the leadership living up to what it's talking about, they will

be very sceptical not only about the bullying but also the threats of

what they see as deselection. There are a serious differences because

there is the issue. Jeremy Corbyn is very open to things like immigration

of refugees, supports to refugees but you are seeing a lot of Labour

MPs becoming, echoing the Little England rhetoric of Ukip is talking

about trying to end free movement and stop free movement and things

like that. There are real differences there. It has to resolve

who it is speaking to, the Metropolitan people in Liverpool,

London, Bristol, or is it speaking to the disengaged as disenchanted

electorate, voters in places like Rochdale at Bolton and Sunderland?

They say revenge is a dish best served cold or better served up on

the mail on Sunday. How to read at repeated

And expose the book lifts lid on murder of betrayal over Brexit.

Boris said Lee would lose. On the inside, Boris will be crushed like a

toad. He seems to come out of this worse than anybody. Boris Johnson.

I'm not sure. I think what you see here is the anger that still

remains, the desire of some angry with what happens to them, with

Theresa May's machinations with people like Michael Gove, Boris

Johnson will stop this is then getting in quickly with their

version of history. Clearly, when you read the detail here, the anger

towards Michael Gove is extraordinary. The anger towards

Boris Johnson is in a way more than pathetic. He seems all over the

place at Carnegie 's mind up. Years the Foreign Secretary. We have wars

in Syria, and the potential of a trump presidency. He can't make up

his mind on the biggest issue of the day. Changes in mind and then joins

the campaign he says he hopes will lose. It is depressing. I am no fan

of Boris and I think ye of the ludicrous choice to be Foreign

Secretary. He is a ludicrous figure in many ways. What you are seeing

here is the anger of the race towards Theresa May as well for the

way she played the whole Brexit debates. A cholera submarine because

she kept below the surface, kept refusing to contribute and come out.

Eventually, according to this book, Cameron got so fed up that he

basically lost his temper as told to come out and say something and she

reluctantly did. We know that she got rid of my she cleared out all of

the Cameroonians from governments. What you were beginning to see is

the warring that may emerge and continue to destabilise a party with

a very slim majority for some time. To me it feels were anally like what

happens with the Blairite Father Brown nights. Whereby the Blairites

just never gave up and their campaign of attrition. It is a great

story. And will be pages more about it next week. One of the most

fascinating things is the swift anger of the Cameroonians against

Theresa May. A bit like all politicians of all colours, she was

as -- has gone on a walking holiday with her husband. Let's move on to

the Sunday Telegraph. Blair demands an end to army which aren't. This is

about alleged abuses. I have a slight problem with anything with

the word liar in the middle of it. It's hard to take seriously. His

desire to wheedle his way back into popularity. He is in typical fashion

jumping on the bandwagon. Have been a lot of stories all week in the

Daily Mail adds to a lesser extent the Telegraph, on these abuses and

the legal claims against the Army. This is Blair basically jumping on

the bandwagon and saying, I am with you, lads. There are a lot of

unresolved issues. This is a very sensitive issue. We send people to

do business abroad which involves violence, and then some people feel

these people have been let down. Whatever you think of the politics

behind it, these are people that are doing something in our name. That's

right. I think the problem is that you will have a situation where you

get no want to sign up for the military, if they think every time

they face public prosecutions. War crimes should always be taken

seriously, but the theory is that many of these are contested, but

there is now a big industry in taking these people through the

courts. Tony Blair .org in terms of saying, I don't think this process

should ever have been put in place and I'm sorry that soldiers and

families have been through through this ordeal. It's important to

remember that he does have a vested interest because there are many out

there that would like to see him prosecuted. In some ways, I'm sure

he is doing what he believes that there will be an element of him

thinking, if people start successfully prosecuting soldiers

and commanders, how long is it before I get a knock on the door?

That move onto the American election, which you cover tomorrow

night in the big debates. How to deal with Donald Trump is the Sunday

Times's take on this. It must be very difficult, how can Hillary

prepare for a debate like this? Is political theatre at its greatest. A

terrible candidate to many people question why she is the best person

to represent the Democrats, against a character, a maverick character

like Donald Trump, he was managed to upset the many people in the past.

The two of them go head-to-head for 90 minutes. The first of three

debates. They think 300 million people will watch it. More than the

Super Bowl! And is probably more entertaining. Both of them, both of

the protagonists are people that make mistakes and debates. It will

be riveting to watch. It could be win or lose. This could be the

moment one emerges as the person that is going to win. Very much so.

America shares this be borrow nature of politics where anything can

happen, any mistake could cost than in the whole contest. And purples

are probably as reliable as we have seen our polls recently. In reality,

we probably have no idea what's going to happen and it's very hard

to judge. America is even more fractured than we are. Is impossible

to predict what will happen. I have had people from both sides of the

debate, but is politicians, who has said Trump has got it in the bag.

Other people say Clinton has in the bag. Goodness knows what will

happen. Let's move on to a little bit of light relief. Stirchley come

dancing. Ed thinks straight to the Boston with his... He turned out to

lack predatory instincts. I don't know whether you saw the programme,

but Ed Balls is breaking that might at least he is brave enough to have

a go! I was hoping you wouldn't ask me. He is one of those politicians

which, someone has a different public image to his private image.

He has a rather unpopular public image but privately is a very

different character. Is a very likeable character. The hope is that

people can see he is a more rounded, nice character. Rounded might be the

wrong word! You looks like he's losing weight. You would if you were

doing this. He did very badly, really, and the judge said it was

very pedestrian, darling. I think they would have given him about five

or six points. He may not win it but he has the scope to achieve a lot.

Can you see a career in this? Not really! It's part of his political

rehabilitation. It seems to be working so far. And he was launching

his books, he said to the audience that he got those sorry for his

dance partner. He said I had never seen anything that false. I feel

sorry for her. She is doing a good job. The British people like him, we

like people who drive. Just a reminder we take a look

at tomorrow s front pages every Time for a look at the

weather with Phil Avery. I will start by showing you a couple

of weather watcher pictures which came in earlier on. There was a

chance of Sunrise further east but notice that grey shield of cloud

over the top of that C. It was obviously thick enough