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Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

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With me are the Political Commentator Vincent Moss

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and Ian Birrell who's a contributing editor at the Mail on Sunday.

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The Sunday Telegraph interviews the former

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Prime Minister Tony Blair, who says inquiries into alleged

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abuses by British troops should never have been ordered.

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David Cameron's former spin doctor is quoted in the Mail on Sunday,

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where he reveals divisions sprang up between Cameron and Theresa May

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in the Sunday Times that divisions in the Labour party

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The Sunday Express says the detective who brought double

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murderer Christopher Halliwell to justice believes he may also

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have killed the missing chef Claudia Lawrence.

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And the Sun reports that Zoe Ball and Norman Cook are separating

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Jeremy Corbyn's victory is the Observer's lead.

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It says Labour's leader intends to give more power

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Let's look at that story first. More power to the members, not the

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members of Parliament but the members of the party. This is his

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dilemma. A huge victory. MPs have strategically blundered over this

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but how is he going to communicate with the rest of the people who are

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not members of the Labour Party? That is a big challenge. What the

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Observer is talking about is trying to win back the PLP, get them back

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on board. They seem to be insisting on wanting Shadow Cabinet elections.

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Jeremy Corbyn and his allies realised they could lose a lot of

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the power within the centre of the party if that happens. Talk about

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giving the power to the members, he is talking about giving the people

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who voted for him a chance to have a say in Shadow Cabinet elections. All

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those people who quit Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow cabinets, who helped

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him run the show, will they come back and support and work with them?

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The big thing you will see today at the Labour conference, is that very

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few big hitters have yet said that they are prepared to go back and

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work with them. That is very significant. Looking out at the

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other way, they have suffered a huge reverse occurs they look weak and on

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the wrong side of party history. They're in a weaker position now

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than they were before hands. They have not just failed but fails

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badly. Some of them will crawl back into the shadow cabinets, others

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won't. None of the issues have been resolved. The only difference is

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that Jeremy Corbyn is in a slightly stronger position than he was before

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the coup. Now I think they're... Jeremy Corbyn will go on and MPs

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have to make a decision to stick with this, split, joint and unify

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behind the party and realise that the party has changed. You never

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hear any adjusting policies coming from the mainstream labour movement.

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For all their talk of wanted to control the party and talk of the

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centre ground, which is obviously correct because you win elections in

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the centre, it's hard to think of any adjusting policies coming out of

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these whingeing Labour MPs. On that point, whingeing MPs or otherwise,

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also in the Observer, John McDonnell, Shadow Chancellor, claims

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Labour's summer of vitriol is behind it. The party must be said for a

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snap election. We are supposed to have a fixed term parliaments, but

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you could see a scenario where Theresa May says she needs the

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support of the country, because she has never been elected as Prime

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Minister through a national mandate. Exit of the biggest decision of our

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lifetimes, maybe she have to go to the country next year because there

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are my Brexit plans and please endorse them. McDonald might be

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right. There is always a possibility but with MPs, you have for years job

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security until 2020. You won't see many MPs endorsing snap elections.

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You will see that pressure in a media and certain Labour characters

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talking about that, because there is a theory that if you want to get rid

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of Jeremy Corbyn you do that quickest through a snap election,

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which means that if Labour loses, he would presumably have a new leader.

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John McDonnell also recognises that people are talking about these

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things and they has to get ahead of it. I take some issue with what he

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said about the backbenchers in the Labour Party. A lot of those have

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done very good work on things like immigration. Yvette Cooper. I think

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you are right about what you say about the policy vacuum. Normally

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there would be a grid of stories for any party conference but this is all

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about process and power in the Labour Party. Corbyn and John

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McDonnell have little to say about policy and this would normally be a

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rich scene of stories on the BBC and in the media, different minister on

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everyday talking about the new policy. The in higher vacuum there

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because all the focus is on these internal matter nations. And also at

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a time when Britain is reshaping its relationship with the world over the

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next two or three, or for five years. We don't have a functioning

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opposition which is challenging the government. Conservative MPs have

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expressed to me their concern about this, I do feel that they need

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somebody to offer a decent opposition. Sadiq Khan, again on the

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same kind of story, about process. Sunday Times, Sadiq Khan, Corbyn

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purge could kill Labour. The Corbyn mood music is absolutely not of a

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purge., rows and have a chat. Yes, that it would be strange if the mood

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music was about a purge. Sadiq Khan is for an away the most credible

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challenger to Corbyn and positioning himself very skilfully as a

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potential alternative leader, who has a record of success and could

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unify to some extent the party. I think that's what this is about, it

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is Sadiq Khan reminding us that he is in play and he is there. You got

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more votes than Jeremy Corbyn among the general electorate of London.

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And he is also a winner which is the key thing. He has shown how to do

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that and how Labour can do that. Albeit it's a metropolitan area that

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he has all the recipe for success. He is warning in this piece about

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the risk of the party 's blessing. This is a plea to the moderates,

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don't go away, we don't want a repeat of the 1980s and the FTP.

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This is a plea for unity from a different wing and a more successful

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point of view than the same messages coming out from... I think it feels

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very different from the 1980s. Jeremy Corbyn is no Michael foot,

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for a start. It is a much more fever of media, different electorate. More

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fundamental differences. I think the chances of success in a multiparty

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system, which could emerge out of all the various things happening in

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politics, or more profound. Labour is clearly becoming a protest

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movement of the left in the way it has changed in the last 1.5 years.

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There is a role for a body of centre-left social Democrats,

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possibly even sharpening -- possibly chant beginning...

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This is the view of Mr Corbyn's supporters, if they stop whingeing

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and complaining, some of the policies being developed in the

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party would get more air time on programmes like this. That might

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happen but despite -- despite this talk of unity, what does MPs will

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want to see if they're practising what they preach and an end to what

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has been the bullying and imitation across social media. The leadership

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will make more noise on that but Labour MPs have had to have their

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locks changed as security alarms installed because of this and

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anti-Semitic anger from people who have supported the Corbyn. Until

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they see the leadership living up to what it's talking about, they will

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be very sceptical not only about the bullying but also the threats of

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what they see as deselection. There are a serious differences because

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there is the issue. Jeremy Corbyn is very open to things like immigration

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of refugees, supports to refugees but you are seeing a lot of Labour

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MPs becoming, echoing the Little England rhetoric of Ukip is talking

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about trying to end free movement and stop free movement and things

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like that. There are real differences there. It has to resolve

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who it is speaking to, the Metropolitan people in Liverpool,

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London, Bristol, or is it speaking to the disengaged as disenchanted

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electorate, voters in places like Rochdale at Bolton and Sunderland?

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They say revenge is a dish best served cold or better served up on

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the mail on Sunday. How to read at repeated

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And expose the book lifts lid on murder of betrayal over Brexit.

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Boris said Lee would lose. On the inside, Boris will be crushed like a

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toad. He seems to come out of this worse than anybody. Boris Johnson.

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I'm not sure. I think what you see here is the anger that still

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remains, the desire of some angry with what happens to them, with

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Theresa May's machinations with people like Michael Gove, Boris

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Johnson will stop this is then getting in quickly with their

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version of history. Clearly, when you read the detail here, the anger

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towards Michael Gove is extraordinary. The anger towards

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Boris Johnson is in a way more than pathetic. He seems all over the

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place at Carnegie 's mind up. Years the Foreign Secretary. We have wars

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in Syria, and the potential of a trump presidency. He can't make up

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his mind on the biggest issue of the day. Changes in mind and then joins

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the campaign he says he hopes will lose. It is depressing. I am no fan

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of Boris and I think ye of the ludicrous choice to be Foreign

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Secretary. He is a ludicrous figure in many ways. What you are seeing

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here is the anger of the race towards Theresa May as well for the

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way she played the whole Brexit debates. A cholera submarine because

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she kept below the surface, kept refusing to contribute and come out.

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Eventually, according to this book, Cameron got so fed up that he

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basically lost his temper as told to come out and say something and she

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reluctantly did. We know that she got rid of my she cleared out all of

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the Cameroonians from governments. What you were beginning to see is

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the warring that may emerge and continue to destabilise a party with

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a very slim majority for some time. To me it feels were anally like what

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happens with the Blairite Father Brown nights. Whereby the Blairites

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just never gave up and their campaign of attrition. It is a great

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story. And will be pages more about it next week. One of the most

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fascinating things is the swift anger of the Cameroonians against

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Theresa May. A bit like all politicians of all colours, she was

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as -- has gone on a walking holiday with her husband. Let's move on to

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the Sunday Telegraph. Blair demands an end to army which aren't. This is

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about alleged abuses. I have a slight problem with anything with

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the word liar in the middle of it. It's hard to take seriously. His

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desire to wheedle his way back into popularity. He is in typical fashion

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jumping on the bandwagon. Have been a lot of stories all week in the

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Daily Mail adds to a lesser extent the Telegraph, on these abuses and

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the legal claims against the Army. This is Blair basically jumping on

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the bandwagon and saying, I am with you, lads. There are a lot of

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unresolved issues. This is a very sensitive issue. We send people to

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do business abroad which involves violence, and then some people feel

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these people have been let down. Whatever you think of the politics

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behind it, these are people that are doing something in our name. That's

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right. I think the problem is that you will have a situation where you

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get no want to sign up for the military, if they think every time

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they face public prosecutions. War crimes should always be taken

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seriously, but the theory is that many of these are contested, but

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there is now a big industry in taking these people through the

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courts. Tony Blair .org in terms of saying, I don't think this process

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should ever have been put in place and I'm sorry that soldiers and

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families have been through through this ordeal. It's important to

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remember that he does have a vested interest because there are many out

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there that would like to see him prosecuted. In some ways, I'm sure

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he is doing what he believes that there will be an element of him

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thinking, if people start successfully prosecuting soldiers

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and commanders, how long is it before I get a knock on the door?

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That move onto the American election, which you cover tomorrow

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night in the big debates. How to deal with Donald Trump is the Sunday

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Times's take on this. It must be very difficult, how can Hillary

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prepare for a debate like this? Is political theatre at its greatest. A

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terrible candidate to many people question why she is the best person

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to represent the Democrats, against a character, a maverick character

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like Donald Trump, he was managed to upset the many people in the past.

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The two of them go head-to-head for 90 minutes. The first of three

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debates. They think 300 million people will watch it. More than the

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Super Bowl! And is probably more entertaining. Both of them, both of

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the protagonists are people that make mistakes and debates. It will

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be riveting to watch. It could be win or lose. This could be the

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moment one emerges as the person that is going to win. Very much so.

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America shares this be borrow nature of politics where anything can

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happen, any mistake could cost than in the whole contest. And purples

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are probably as reliable as we have seen our polls recently. In reality,

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we probably have no idea what's going to happen and it's very hard

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to judge. America is even more fractured than we are. Is impossible

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to predict what will happen. I have had people from both sides of the

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debate, but is politicians, who has said Trump has got it in the bag.

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Other people say Clinton has in the bag. Goodness knows what will

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happen. Let's move on to a little bit of light relief. Stirchley come

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dancing. Ed thinks straight to the Boston with his... He turned out to

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lack predatory instincts. I don't know whether you saw the programme,

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but Ed Balls is breaking that might at least he is brave enough to have

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a go! I was hoping you wouldn't ask me. He is one of those politicians

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which, someone has a different public image to his private image.

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He has a rather unpopular public image but privately is a very

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different character. Is a very likeable character. The hope is that

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people can see he is a more rounded, nice character. Rounded might be the

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wrong word! You looks like he's losing weight. You would if you were

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doing this. He did very badly, really, and the judge said it was

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very pedestrian, darling. I think they would have given him about five

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or six points. He may not win it but he has the scope to achieve a lot.

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Can you see a career in this? Not really! It's part of his political

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rehabilitation. It seems to be working so far. And he was launching

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his books, he said to the audience that he got those sorry for his

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dance partner. He said I had never seen anything that false. I feel

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sorry for her. She is doing a good job. The British people like him, we

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like people who drive. Just a reminder we take a look

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at tomorrow s front pages every Time for a look at the

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weather with Phil Avery. I will start by showing you a couple

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of weather watcher pictures which came in earlier on. There was a

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chance of Sunrise further east but notice that grey shield of cloud

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over the top of that C. It was obviously thick enough

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