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And before 11 o'clock, Meet The Author with Rose Tremain.

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Welcome to our look at what is going to be in the papers tomorrow. With

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me, the political commentator Lance Price, and the columnist Tony Green.

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That's why you through the front pages we have them at the moment.

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The Daily Telegraph leading on Britain accusing Bush of being

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guilty of war crimes with its bombing in Syria. The Times claims

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that bombing includes the use of napalm by the Russian-backed Syrian

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government. Metro focuses on the Labour Shadow Chancellor John

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McDonnell's refusal to apologise after saying that former

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Conservative disabilities minister estimate -- Esther McVey should be

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lynched. In the i, allegations that Theresa May failed to properly back

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the Remain campaign. The decision to leave the EU is also dominating the

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Financial Times, reporting fears in the City of London that the

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Government is leaning towards a so-called hard Brexit rather than a

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soft Brexit, which it says would damage business confidence. The Sun

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splashes on its exclusive interview with England footballer Jamie Vardy

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and his room or over racially abusing a student. And Prince George

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and Princess Charlotte adorn the front page of the Daily Mail. So,

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let's kick off. Lance Price, we've got these accusations still rumbling

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on about Theresa May being delivered, a series of accusations

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from people close to David Cameron and a reply now from people close to

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Theresa May - a war of words within the Tory party? It is an

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extraordinary battle which is being fought out so soon after Theresa May

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taking over, between her and friends of her predecessor David Cameron.

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Sparked off by a book by his former director of communications, now Sir

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Craig Oliver, which set the cat amongst the pigeons by suggesting

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that Theresa May was not perhaps batting for Brexit as much as she

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should have been, and as much as David Cameron wanted her to be. But

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now we have got an argument over how strong she was on controls on

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migration. Downing Street itself, or friends of the new pram minister,

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actually issuing memos pointing out that she was arguing for much

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stronger rules on migration than David Cameron's not saying that she

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was. So, David Cameron's friends trying to protect his legacy, trying

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to share some of the blame for the Brexit defeat. And Theresa May of

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course is absolutely determined that her image as an incoming Prime

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Minister is not going to be painted by others, and certainly not by her

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predecessor. So,, Tony, no love lost, it seems? Absolutely and why

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would there be? We talk about her being Prime Minister, but actually

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she is not in a strong position if you think about it. She's got a

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working majority of 16, she's got dozens of MPs whom she sacked who

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were very loyal to David Cameron and the manifesto of 2015 which did not

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mention for example grammar schools. She's just announced to the party

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about the grammar schools. I should also mention the other book, written

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by my Sunday Times colleague, Tim Shipman, which has caused the most

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anger, because it alleges that when David Cameron was putting together

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his negotiation strategy with the European Union ahead of the

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referendum, but actually it was Theresa May and others who said,

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don't ask for controls on migration, and that's actually much more

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damaging, means that Theresa May's attempts to present herself as a

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strong negotiator with Europe have been trashed. That's one reason why

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Downing Street have reacted so strongly. Actually what they've done

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is to produce memos sent between Theresa May and David Cameron from

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the time, to prove the point that she has been tough on this issue.

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But she faces enemies everywhere she looks. Talking about her negotiating

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stand, the Financial Times have got this story about what kind of Brexit

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it will be, which we still don't really know. Will it be hard or

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soft, a bit like how you like your boiled eggs? DFT saying that the

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City fears that No 10 is shifting towards a hard Brexit? The problem

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of course which everybody has is that no-one knows where No 10 is

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heading, because perhaps quite rightly, she may not have any

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choice, that Theresa May is keeping her cards close to her chest on

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this. The fear is that the strong Brexiteers she has put in place,

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including the Foreign Secretary, Liam Fox, David Davis, they

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recognise that there isn't a third way. Either you're going to leave

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the single market, and you're going to take everything that goes with

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that, and that probably involves leaving the customs union as well,

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that's hard Brexit, or you stay inside the single market and you're

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very close to the situation which we have at the moment, which would not

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be acceptable to the hard Brexiteers. And so she's caught in

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this cleft stick. Everyone is pushing her one way or the other.

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Weakness of her position is that she refuses to put any meat on the bone.

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Will it be her that decides, or will it be that trio of Brexiteers? It

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certainly will not be then, she will be making the decision, she chairs

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the committee which will make the final decisions. We may get some

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clarity this week. On Tuesday, Liam Fox, the Secretary of State for

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Health and national trade, will be making a speech at the World Trade

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Organisation. We are expecting him in that speech to talk about the

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fact that effectively, if the UK wants to do its own trade deals

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around the world, it will have to leave the customs union. I think

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there is a lot of nonsense spoken about the single market. There's a

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big fence between being a member and trading with the single market.

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China and the United States manage to trade with the European Union

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whilst not being involved with every single piece of regulation. Some as

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an lots of uncertainties ahead. But I think you're right, the third way

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was a good analogy. There isn't a third way. If we want to control

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immigration, we can't have access to the free market in the way that we

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have now. So the UK needs to decide what it once and how much it is

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going to get out of the European Union. But I think we need to start

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pivoting our thinking to the vast majority of the world's population

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that are not in the European Union, and the trading opportunities which

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could be out there for us IF these three ministers do their job

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properly. Let's go back to The Times, which has a top story saying

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that Russia is accused of a barbaric napalm attack on civilians in

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Aleppo. Saying that not only that, they have dropped not only napalm,

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but cluster bombs and bunker busting happens as well. It is an absolutely

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appalling situation in Aleppo. What is interesting to date is what the

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international community are trying to do about it. Really, they have no

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cards left. They have been trying to hold Russia and Syria to account at

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the United Nations, with some extraordinarily strong words.

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Britain's representative even walking out of a meeting when the

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Syrian foreign minister was about to speak. But with such an onslaught

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going on from the air, including these appalling bunker buster bombs,

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they have put hospitals and schools Underground, which are now being

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threatened by these penetrating bombs... It seems very unlikely that

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any talk of war crimes is going to stop that. They will push it as far

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as they possibly can. Let's go to the Guardian, Labour Party

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conference obviously in Liverpool, Jeremy Corbyn easily being

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re-elected to the leadership. The question of course, what happens

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next? Talk about wiping the slate clean and party unity, but the

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Guardian headline is, Corbyn foes refusing to be silenced. Can I say

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one thing, these rebels, which is actually three quarters of the

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Parliamentary party, have just failed to deliver on one of the most

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farcical leadership campaigns I've ever seen. We have some of on

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Corbyn, with the party presenting this awful candidate, Owen Smith,

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who appears to be some kind of gaffe machine. His pitch seems to be, I

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have exactly the same ideological principles of Jeremy Corbyn, but I

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am slightly more presentable, apart from all the gaffes that I do! They

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need to have a long think about what they're trying to do. Corbyn has

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trashed them. Lance, you are an expert on Labour Party internal

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politics, for your sins, what they can do? I identify I guessed with

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those moderates. My friends in the party are having to do some very,

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very hard thinking. With these two rallies today, Progress and Labour

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First, very well attended, spilling into the street. You saw people like

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Angela Eagle, Hilary Benn, making it pretty clear that they will stand

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and fight for their vision of what the Labour Party should be. I agree

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with Tony that it was an ignominious election campaign, it did nobody any

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favours at all, certainly not the Labour Party. But nor did it really

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resolve anything. Chiefly, will the party stick together? A lot of talk

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that it was going to split? If you split, or you do is help the Tories,

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and nobody wants to do that. We've got John McDonnell, the Shadow

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Chancellor, refusing to say sorry for suggesting, for talking in

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pretty dramatic terms about Esther McVey, the Conservative Party

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member, that she should be lynched. He would not go back on this? And

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that's a disgrace. Can I just remind you, I work with MPs every day.

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We've had an MP murdered in our constituency. Labour MPs coming

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under daily abuse and threats. I spoke to a Labour MP couple weeks

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ago who said angry, and told me, someone has just found up my

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constituency office and screamed abuse down the phone about how they

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were going to kill them. That's the toxicity in our politics. For this

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arrogant man, this IRA apologist, to say he will not apologise for

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comments which were ridiculous, lynching a female MP... And this is

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the problem for two Labour, where do you go from here? Says, sometimes

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you need to Express your anger. This man is the Shadow Chancellor, he

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needs to start showing that. And Jeremy Corbyn needs to make it

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absolutely clear, and he needs to slap down his one close friend in

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politics, John McDonnell. Was Jamie Corbyn does not go in for this kind

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of language and he doesn't set a different kind of example, and

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that's how he says he wants the Labour Party to conduct itself. I'm

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afraid John McDonnell is a very, very nasty piece of work, and his

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style of politics is incompatible with what Jeremy Corbyn says he

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wants, but doesn't take action to incest that everybody else does the

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same. Somebody else who uses colourful language, of course,

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across the Atlantic is Donald Trump. And there is the key TV debate

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tomorrow night, the first of three, which could be critical. Do you

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think this one will be critical? I don't know. We will see what

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happens. One thing to consider is that almost as much as three

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quarters of Americans may be tuning in at some point, so the first

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debate is really critical. It's critical for Hillary. The thing

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about Trump is, it's anti-politics. In the past, candidates would have

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spent weeks preparing, getting someone in to play their opponent,

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thinking about the questions - Trump does not do that, he's

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anti-politics, he will just turn up and answer questions. It's scary but

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refreshing. A lot of undecided voters still? There are some. The

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poles are showing that they are narrowing, so this could be crucial?

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It's crucial for Hillary Clinton. She's in that difficult position of

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being far and away the best qualified candidate to be president

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- I don't think any impartial observer could say otherwise - and

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yet he could go in and walk away with it. The barrier for success for

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him is incredibly low. All he has to do is not insult of the population

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of America during the course of the debate, and look vaguely as if he

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could be vaguely presidential, and people will say, this is a triumph.

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Will he be trying not to say something outrageous, do you think?

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Who knows? Tone is white, which Donald Trump will each be? His

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advisers will be hoping that he doesn't say anything outrageous,

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he's already said, I can say what I like. And that's what his supporters

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like. Yes. If he thinks that's his route do victory, he will carry on

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with it. That makes it very, very hard for Hillary Clinton to respond.

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Both of you, for the moment, thank you very much for being with us.

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They will both be back at half past 11 with another look at the stories

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making the news tomorrow. Coming up - it's Meet The Author.

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In the first sentence of Rose Tremain's novel,

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In the first sentence of Rose Tremain's novel

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