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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are the Political Commentator, Jo Phillips

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and the Political Editor of the Sunday People, Nigel Nelson.

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We start with the Observer that leads with a claim that the banks

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will be locating outside the EU next year over Brexit fears. It welcomes

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the arrival of child refugees from Calais, some under the landmark DUB

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amendment which helps children. The Times welcomes the refugees but

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their main story is a report from Louise Callaghan of the Iraqi

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mission to liberate Mosul from IS. The situation in Calais dominates

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The Sunday Telegraph but it claims the Home Office ignored warnings

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such as age checks surrounding the arrivals. The Express claims to have

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an exclusive, a row between Prince Charles and Prince Andrew over the

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official roles of Andrew's daughters, Beatrice and Eugeneny.

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Jo and Nigel, good to have you both with us. The Observer, leading banks

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set to pull out of Brexit early next year. Nigel? They are talking about

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Britain's biggest banks are going to pull out so we must get rid of the

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idea there'll be a NatWest on the high street or Halifax or something

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like that, it's not that. The issue is over passporting and what is

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happening is that if you have got a foreign bank located in London, it

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has access to the EU market. Now we've got a warning from Anthony

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Brown who is the boss of the British Bankers' Association, saying that

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these banks are likely to pull out in the New Year and reason being is

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they won't be able to get access to Europe. We don't know any of these

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things yet, it's all part of the Brexit deal. So it might be a bit

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premature to rush away in a couple of months' time. But it's a serious

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issue. If you are an American bank, the ones that I know have thought

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about, look, it's obviously easier for us to base ourselves in

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Frankfurt, actually they don't want to live there, they want to live in

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London, if they can't live in London they'll live in New York, so that's

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probably where they'll end up. But, you are talking about 70,000 jobs at

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stake according to the Observer and an awful lot of money will disappear

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so it's important we get this deal. What is interesting Jo about this is

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that, although there's been a lot of general talk about this in the past,

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Anthony Brown is fairly specific in saying most of the international

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banks now already have teams asen ed working out which operations they

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need to move, the date at which to do it and how best to do it, their

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hands are quivering at the relocate button? Many other businesses are

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I'm sure already looking at it, whether it's retail or car makers,

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anybody that we trade with, whether they are based here or not, will

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have an impact upon them, the costs of living and jobs, an impact on all

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sorts of things. Probably business is slightly better prepared than

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Government appears to be. As Nigel says, it seems slightly premature,

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they are talking about the smaller banks making plans to get out before

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Christmas. Not much time left! We have still got another two years to

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go. Is this just lobbyists kind of, you know pushing their client's

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interests? You know, they are talking about getting a better deal

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here. Theresa May was in Europe this week and we didn't even start to

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talk about a deal yet so we are some way down the road before we can work

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out things like this, which are important things. Because the sky

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hasn't fallen in just yet, there's almost this, well it will do in a

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minute, you know, I know it hasn't been the project fear that everybody

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says, but it's almost like they are trying to talk it up. We are given

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stage by stage. The idea of a great Repeal Bill, so all European law

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becomes British law, so we don't have to discuss that, the issue is

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going to be now trade and it will be trade and the trade-off which is

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going to be how much free movement we are prepared to accept. But that

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will be the nub of that. For the banks to rush off before we have

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even started talking, I think Jo is right, far too premature. Maybe next

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weekend there'll be even more of this kind of thing as it's

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Halloween! Let's move on to another story on

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the front. I don't see what the link is there. Project fear! I see,

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people dressed up as clowns. That will be an interesting alternative

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take on Halloween! A photograph of Carrie Mulligan clutching a toy

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bear, always good for a campaign to have an actor or actress because you

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get them on the front of the papers, she's a keen supporter of this

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protest yesterday. This is over Aleppo? The People and the Mirror.

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This was a Sunday Mirror campaign, we have been working with 15

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charities and it was a march on Downing Street that Carrie Mulligan

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spoke at. 200 teddy bears laid there, the purpose of the whole

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thing was to remind Theresa May and Boris Johnson that children are

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dying, 200 teddy bears represented the 200 children that have died

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since the ceasefire came to an end. What the protesters were demanding

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is, can we just have some action, at the moment we are getting absolutely

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nothing from the British Government. But what sort of action? Now you

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come on to the big question, there are two ways of ending this. One is

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that we allow Putin and Assad to win the war as quickly as possible and

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bring it to an end. That seems to be unacceptable because too many

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children would have to die. The second and obviously I'm

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oversimplifying, is a no-fly zone, preferably negotiated with the

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Russians but we may have to impose them without negotiation. How would

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you impose them without troops on the ground? We are talking no-fly

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zones so you are trying to stop the bombing of Aleppo, stop the children

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being killed in the awful numbers that it is at the moment. So that

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means willing to shoot down jets? Yes. Various ideas have come up.

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Boris Johnson's floated the idea of a no-bomb zone. A no-bomb zone is

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that if they bomb, we then go and bomb them. That strikes me as more

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dangerous than a no-fly zone, I mean what are you bombing, you don't

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quite know. The whole thing is so utterly repugnant that people are

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living in the most appalling conditions in Aleppo. We are all,

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you know, talking about it on tele-I haves and radio channels and in

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newspapers around the world and nobody can do anything sensible to

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stop it. The argument's got to be if that every time we back down against

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Putin because we fear World War three, we are not going to do

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anything and it will be perpetual appeasement. I know that, but I

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wonder about 200 teddy bears, you know. You start somewhere. It's

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leading us on to what is happening in Calais because it would be a

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sweeping generalisation to say the majority of the people there are

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escaping the war, but a significant number will be and now this question

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of the child refugees. There is an interesting suggestion that the

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Government may have shifted its position somewhat on which children

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can be accommodated in the UK? Interestingly, apparently 50 girls

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have arrived this evening which I think is the first girls that we

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have seen, so given that we have been told about the vulnerability of

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the children in the jungle camp, these are girls who mainly come from

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Eritrea, and they've been brought here because the people that, or the

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kids that have come in last week have only been able to come here

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because they've got relatives in this country. The DUBS amendment

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after Lord Dubs, what a fantastic thing to do, actually made this

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amendment so children could have safety. And that is what is

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happening. So it was girls earlier. You don't have to work out that

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girls are much more at risk in a place like that. The photo on the

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front of The Telegraph which is about Calais and the refugee camp

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issues, and in about 24 hours they'll start to demolish the

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authorities, queueing for Britain, Nigel, this photo of a group of

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people lining up to kind of put in their applications basically to be

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processed? A really unhelpful photograph really because a lot of

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them don't look like children in that photograph and what the story

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that goes with it is about is that there were offers made to actually

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test children to make sure they were children and... In so far as you can

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possibly do it, yes. Yes, but there were offers from social services

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departments, these two back to last August and the Government turned it

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down, you can do it with dental checks, 17EU countries do that as a

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standard routine to see how old somebody is and it's terribly

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important it's children we take in, otherwise the public who at the

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moment are very sympathetic to what is going on there, could change very

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quickly. There is the legal side of this which is, I think I'm right in

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saying, that under international agreements, if you are under the age

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of 18, you cannot be sent back once you come to claim asylum, you cannot

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be rejected. There is a nice take from this cartoon. This is from

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Matt. He's genius, there is a coach disappearing in the distance and a

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sign saying "migrant welcome centre" and on the back of bus it says

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"children on board" (apparently). That is absolutely the issue to the

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story. Let's move on then to our next story which is the Sunday

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Times. I was blown up and trapped by Isis guns says reporter Louise

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Callaghan, part of the operation, one of the dread word embedded

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reporters travelling with the troops who're beginning the assault on

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Mosul? Yes. As anyone can see from this

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photograph, she's sitting there with her hands over her mouth looking in

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utter horror at what's happening. She's taking evasive action in a

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Humvee as Iraqi troops pound in Mosul. It's standard fare which

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isn't to denigrate it at all. It's nasty and frightening, but I think

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we all know it's been going on for six days now. Soon to move into its

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seventh day. It's what happens afterwards. It's a nasty Basel but

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what happens next? Contested part of Iraq, very close to the Kurdish

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autonomous region, so there's pressures there. Absolutely and they

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have already said they won't... Big stakes. A surprising thing was

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hearing from the aid agency in the course of the week that people by

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their thousands were fleeing into Syria to escape expected violence in

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Mosul. Yes. When you see reports like this, I think that the

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temptation for a journalist on the ground is to describe the

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experiences they're going through. It's a brave thing to be going out

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there and doing the kind of thing that Louise Callaghan is doing. Yes.

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Also we know how dangerous the whole thing is. There are reports coming

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out that 284 men and women who were human shields have now been executed

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by Isis. You are dealing here with a really, really nasty enemy, so yes,

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you would flee anywhere even Syria, just to get away from them. Let's,

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as our little and finally, this quite fun story at the bottom.

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Number Ten spin chiefs romantic blunder. It's a cautionary tale, Jo?

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Yes. Not so much about having flings but about being careful with your

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mobile phone? Yes, it's not about having a fling at all actually. It's

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about Sir Craig Oliver, late to Downing Street, former spin doctor

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to David Cameron. He had sent a text to his then girlfriend who had come

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into a meeting looking a bit flustered and he sent a text saying,

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"you look shattered X, X, X," but he'd sent it to more than his

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girlfriend, it had gone to fellow campaign chiefs, so everybody around

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the table, everybody sitting there, phones vibrating and it had gone to

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the entire WhatsApp group of the campaign group, but, you know, these

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things happen. His secret love wasn't secret much longer. Spin your

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way out of that one. People put back on the app "you don't look so good

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yourself, mate". Thank you Nigel and Jo,

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you'll both be back at 11.30 for another look at the stories

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making the news tomorrow.

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