26/10/2016 The Papers

Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

With me are the journalist Mina Al-Oraibi

Good to have you back after your travels round the world.

And Tom Chivers, science writer for BuzzFeed UK.

Before the papers, a word of warning. Some of you might be

interested in who won the last Great British Bake Off of the series

history before it affects to Channel 4. So other papers, which means the

winner is on the front page. This is a spoiler alert and if you do not

want to know who won, put a couple of Bakewell tarts in your ears and

turn away because we will unavoidably reveal all in this paper

's review. You have been warned. The Metro says thousands of low-paid

NHS staff are having to rely on food banks,

hand-outs and payday loans. A stark image of the burning remains

of the Jungle dominates the front The Express once again raises

the prospect of a quick Brexit, carrying comments from the head

of the World Trade Organisation in which he says there's

no need for disruption Great British Bake Off

winner is Candice Brown and is in line for a big pay day,

says the Daily Star, saying she'll be launching a luxury

cake firm and her own line The Mail says British troops

and planes will be deployed in Estonia and Romania,

in response to what Nato sees The Guardian reports on criticism

of the Prime Minister over what she said privately to bankers

about the possible economic cost of Brexit -

a story the newspaper broke The Times has uncovered figures

which apparently show that the economic benefits

of an extra runway at Heathrow We can begin. The Guardian newspaper

and the story about the children left behind, as the Calais camp

burned. You have taken interest in Middle Eastern affairs, Mina

Al-Oraibi. You have middle Eastern heritage. Many of these young

children have travelled from parts of the Middle East. How do you think

this has been handled? It has been handled terribly. There are 100

unaccompanied minors that nobody knows where they are tonight.

Imagine a country like France, that Europe would find that acceptable

and they are not the only miners lost along the way as conflicts of

the Middle East, but some who have escaped terrible poverty in Africa.

We see how the camp and the story in the Guardian is looking at the issue

of children, at 5000 people are affected by this. Images of burning

down the camp and in reality, these are human beings. We can call them

migrants, refugees, but they are human beings whose government has

failed them and the international system has failed them.

Disconcerting to hear comment is from the regional prefect in Calais

saying Mission accomplished, as if it were a military mission against

militants. It was people seeking a better life. The Guardian quotes

some charities, representatives of kindness, people volunteering and

putting up posts on Facebook and saying can somebody help these

people because they need shelter? Is there an argument this camp is a

pretty horrible place, refugee camps often are terrible places, and there

will always be a better way to accommodate people in these

situations and when countries are not sure if they are prepared to

accept them. There should be a better way to house people but the

fact you raise it to the ground and they distributed them in 450

different locations in France, there is a long process of trying to

process the people because in reality nobody wants to deal with

the crisis. Looking at the Telegraph image, these are the kinds of

images... A burning camp. Almost like a dystopia. The movies we

watched 10-15 years ago. There haves and have nots, and the latter can

face terrible circumstances with nobody to speak up for them. The

image, the cooking oil and gas that had not been cleared away and

exploded. All policy emphasis seems to be on pushing people out of this

place and it seems to me the idea they will go to the Calais Jungle

and the problem will be over is ridiculous. It is like pushing down

the bubble in wallpaper and it move somewhere else. They have 5000

people who need a home and they are shuffling around 450 different

places in France. We have three reporters there at BuzzFeed. They

were doing a marvellous job following people around and they

said people were separated from their family and friends, people did

not know who they were with. Carted around without any clear idea what

the next stage was. It seems to me this is they are going for the

headline idea, burn the place to the ground and hope it works out for the

best, whereas we know from everywhere else in the world that

when you make a refugee camp somewhere, it does not tend to be a

temporary arrangement, it tends to be a long-term thing. I cannot see

this solving problems in a meaningful way. We can move onto

another story that is gaining more traction and that is what Russia is

up to, not just in Syria, but its role on the edge of Europe. We had a

report of Spain having said it would allow refuelling of the Russian

fleet in the Mediterranean but now having been lent on by Nato

colleagues, saying there is no safe harbour. Next stop will be Malta and

we will see if they will act in the same way. Deployment of British

troops. We knew some would go as a rolling detachment I think in

Poland. The presence of jets, does that up the ante? Is it being

overhyped? It is up upping the empty. A proclamation was made at

the last Nato summit to have greater presence. Eastern European countries

now part of Nato are pushing on Western European nations and America

to say we need presence. You will see more of a Canadian presence.

Only 150 troops, but the idea is to tell Russia there is a consequence.

The timing is partly to do with the timing of increased sanctions on

Russia. Let's try to put pressure through Nato. This story says there

will be 800 troops deployed to Estonia for six months remain. It is

quite a lead up. It really is leading to yet more of a Cold War

scenario where we have Europe having, Eastern Europe is really the

buffer zone towards Russia, but it is more than posturing the fact you

have military personnel and equipment on the ground. You feel

like Putin is probably pleased with this. The great Western imperialist

oppressor has come to face up to us again, this plays into his... I am

not suggesting it is not important and he should not do it, but I

cannot imagine this is a disappointment. The Dato front page

might be pinned up on those boards -- Nato from page, pinned up at

Russian military headquarters. The Daily Telegraph has a domestic

story. You are a science journalist, Tom, the end of Doctor knows best.

The story is following a Supreme Court judgment, a horrible story, a

diabetic mother had her baby born with disabilities and apparently she

said it was she failed to have enough advice about the risks of

natural birth over a Caesarean. The Royal College said clinicians should

take patients through all options available, rather than using their

judgment to rule out the less likely to help ones. Putting the decision

making into the hands of the patient. As an occasional patient,

you think, I like it when the doctor makes decisions because they know

what they are talking about. But having spoken to doctors on similar

topics, one thing they have all said is it is risky to underestimate the

intelligence and judgment of patients. They are often

well-informed about conditions they have, especially with things like...

There are decisions about risk and trade-offs. If you are diagnosed

with certain types of cancer you might be offered a choice between a

surgical approach which will almost certainly clear that cancer but

leave you with long-term problems such as having to have a colostomy

bag, but sometimes others are riskier but there is not a right

answer. There is not an expert solution. Putting that decision in

the hands of the patient might make sense. Does that appeal? In certain

cases patients are given options, especially when it requires surgery,

when the surgeon will explain what the decision is. The Daily Telegraph

story explains that in some cases the consultation is not long enough

to go through all options and you do not see the senior consultant, often

it is someone from the team who will not go through all possibilities.

This case is about natural birth and Caesarean because a lot of women are

pushed for going further natural birth and I wonder if this is a

conversation that should be had about options women on given when it

comes to delivery because quite often that is depending on the ethos

of the doctor and what they think is best and what action they will

choose. First-time mothers especially do not know what to

expect. It should not be about litigation. The story said 1.4

billion was paid out by NHS trusts from 2015 because of litigation

issues. And trying to push the responsibility on the patient,

because surely the experts know best. I think we have that already

and the more senior doctors definitely give more information

than sometimes happens in other cases. I seem to remember the NHS

budget total is 100 billion and so 1.4 billion is not nothing but I

hope that is not going to drive major decisions. That is a fraction

overall. Finally, spoiler alert. For anyone still watching having failed

to listen to my advice or indeed the Bakewell tarts have melted in their

ears, which was not good advice! We are going on to the winner of Great

British Bake Off. Tom, I know you are particularly interested and

feeling pleased with yourself. I am, I am Team can this. I have outed

myself as Team Candice Brown. Are we not having marmite any more because

of Brexit? Has it become too expensive? She is unpopular with a

certain section of society because partly I think because she is

pouting a lot. Which explains the reference she will have her own

range of lipstick. We are out of time. Thanks for being with us.

Congratulations to Candice Brown and commiserations to the other winners.

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