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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are the journalist Mina Al-Oraibi

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Good to have you back after your travels round the world.

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And Tom Chivers, science writer for BuzzFeed UK.

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Before the papers, a word of warning. Some of you might be

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interested in who won the last Great British Bake Off of the series

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history before it affects to Channel 4. So other papers, which means the

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winner is on the front page. This is a spoiler alert and if you do not

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want to know who won, put a couple of Bakewell tarts in your ears and

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turn away because we will unavoidably reveal all in this paper

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's review. You have been warned. The Metro says thousands of low-paid

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NHS staff are having to rely on food banks,

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hand-outs and payday loans. A stark image of the burning remains

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of the Jungle dominates the front The Express once again raises

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the prospect of a quick Brexit, carrying comments from the head

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of the World Trade Organisation in which he says there's

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no need for disruption Great British Bake Off

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winner is Candice Brown and is in line for a big pay day,

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says the Daily Star, saying she'll be launching a luxury

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cake firm and her own line The Mail says British troops

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and planes will be deployed in Estonia and Romania,

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in response to what Nato sees The Guardian reports on criticism

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of the Prime Minister over what she said privately to bankers

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about the possible economic cost of Brexit -

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a story the newspaper broke The Times has uncovered figures

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which apparently show that the economic benefits

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of an extra runway at Heathrow We can begin. The Guardian newspaper

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and the story about the children left behind, as the Calais camp

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burned. You have taken interest in Middle Eastern affairs, Mina

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Al-Oraibi. You have middle Eastern heritage. Many of these young

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children have travelled from parts of the Middle East. How do you think

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this has been handled? It has been handled terribly. There are 100

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unaccompanied minors that nobody knows where they are tonight.

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Imagine a country like France, that Europe would find that acceptable

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and they are not the only miners lost along the way as conflicts of

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the Middle East, but some who have escaped terrible poverty in Africa.

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We see how the camp and the story in the Guardian is looking at the issue

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of children, at 5000 people are affected by this. Images of burning

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down the camp and in reality, these are human beings. We can call them

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migrants, refugees, but they are human beings whose government has

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failed them and the international system has failed them.

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Disconcerting to hear comment is from the regional prefect in Calais

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saying Mission accomplished, as if it were a military mission against

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militants. It was people seeking a better life. The Guardian quotes

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some charities, representatives of kindness, people volunteering and

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putting up posts on Facebook and saying can somebody help these

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people because they need shelter? Is there an argument this camp is a

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pretty horrible place, refugee camps often are terrible places, and there

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will always be a better way to accommodate people in these

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situations and when countries are not sure if they are prepared to

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accept them. There should be a better way to house people but the

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fact you raise it to the ground and they distributed them in 450

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different locations in France, there is a long process of trying to

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process the people because in reality nobody wants to deal with

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the crisis. Looking at the Telegraph image, these are the kinds of

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images... A burning camp. Almost like a dystopia. The movies we

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watched 10-15 years ago. There haves and have nots, and the latter can

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face terrible circumstances with nobody to speak up for them. The

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image, the cooking oil and gas that had not been cleared away and

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exploded. All policy emphasis seems to be on pushing people out of this

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place and it seems to me the idea they will go to the Calais Jungle

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and the problem will be over is ridiculous. It is like pushing down

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the bubble in wallpaper and it move somewhere else. They have 5000

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people who need a home and they are shuffling around 450 different

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places in France. We have three reporters there at BuzzFeed. They

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were doing a marvellous job following people around and they

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said people were separated from their family and friends, people did

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not know who they were with. Carted around without any clear idea what

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the next stage was. It seems to me this is they are going for the

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headline idea, burn the place to the ground and hope it works out for the

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best, whereas we know from everywhere else in the world that

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when you make a refugee camp somewhere, it does not tend to be a

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temporary arrangement, it tends to be a long-term thing. I cannot see

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this solving problems in a meaningful way. We can move onto

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another story that is gaining more traction and that is what Russia is

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up to, not just in Syria, but its role on the edge of Europe. We had a

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report of Spain having said it would allow refuelling of the Russian

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fleet in the Mediterranean but now having been lent on by Nato

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colleagues, saying there is no safe harbour. Next stop will be Malta and

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we will see if they will act in the same way. Deployment of British

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troops. We knew some would go as a rolling detachment I think in

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Poland. The presence of jets, does that up the ante? Is it being

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overhyped? It is up upping the empty. A proclamation was made at

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the last Nato summit to have greater presence. Eastern European countries

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now part of Nato are pushing on Western European nations and America

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to say we need presence. You will see more of a Canadian presence.

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Only 150 troops, but the idea is to tell Russia there is a consequence.

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The timing is partly to do with the timing of increased sanctions on

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Russia. Let's try to put pressure through Nato. This story says there

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will be 800 troops deployed to Estonia for six months remain. It is

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quite a lead up. It really is leading to yet more of a Cold War

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scenario where we have Europe having, Eastern Europe is really the

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buffer zone towards Russia, but it is more than posturing the fact you

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have military personnel and equipment on the ground. You feel

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like Putin is probably pleased with this. The great Western imperialist

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oppressor has come to face up to us again, this plays into his... I am

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not suggesting it is not important and he should not do it, but I

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cannot imagine this is a disappointment. The Dato front page

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might be pinned up on those boards -- Nato from page, pinned up at

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Russian military headquarters. The Daily Telegraph has a domestic

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story. You are a science journalist, Tom, the end of Doctor knows best.

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The story is following a Supreme Court judgment, a horrible story, a

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diabetic mother had her baby born with disabilities and apparently she

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said it was she failed to have enough advice about the risks of

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natural birth over a Caesarean. The Royal College said clinicians should

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take patients through all options available, rather than using their

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judgment to rule out the less likely to help ones. Putting the decision

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making into the hands of the patient. As an occasional patient,

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you think, I like it when the doctor makes decisions because they know

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what they are talking about. But having spoken to doctors on similar

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topics, one thing they have all said is it is risky to underestimate the

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intelligence and judgment of patients. They are often

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well-informed about conditions they have, especially with things like...

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There are decisions about risk and trade-offs. If you are diagnosed

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with certain types of cancer you might be offered a choice between a

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surgical approach which will almost certainly clear that cancer but

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leave you with long-term problems such as having to have a colostomy

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bag, but sometimes others are riskier but there is not a right

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answer. There is not an expert solution. Putting that decision in

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the hands of the patient might make sense. Does that appeal? In certain

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cases patients are given options, especially when it requires surgery,

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when the surgeon will explain what the decision is. The Daily Telegraph

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story explains that in some cases the consultation is not long enough

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to go through all options and you do not see the senior consultant, often

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it is someone from the team who will not go through all possibilities.

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This case is about natural birth and Caesarean because a lot of women are

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pushed for going further natural birth and I wonder if this is a

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conversation that should be had about options women on given when it

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comes to delivery because quite often that is depending on the ethos

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of the doctor and what they think is best and what action they will

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choose. First-time mothers especially do not know what to

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expect. It should not be about litigation. The story said 1.4

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billion was paid out by NHS trusts from 2015 because of litigation

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issues. And trying to push the responsibility on the patient,

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because surely the experts know best. I think we have that already

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and the more senior doctors definitely give more information

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than sometimes happens in other cases. I seem to remember the NHS

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budget total is 100 billion and so 1.4 billion is not nothing but I

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hope that is not going to drive major decisions. That is a fraction

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overall. Finally, spoiler alert. For anyone still watching having failed

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to listen to my advice or indeed the Bakewell tarts have melted in their

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ears, which was not good advice! We are going on to the winner of Great

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British Bake Off. Tom, I know you are particularly interested and

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feeling pleased with yourself. I am, I am Team can this. I have outed

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myself as Team Candice Brown. Are we not having marmite any more because

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of Brexit? Has it become too expensive? She is unpopular with a

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certain section of society because partly I think because she is

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pouting a lot. Which explains the reference she will have her own

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range of lipstick. We are out of time. Thanks for being with us.

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Congratulations to Candice Brown and commiserations to the other winners.

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All the front pages are online on the BBC News website and you can

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read a detailed review. And you can see us with each night's edition of

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the Papers posted shortly after we finish. I will be back with the

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headlines at 11. A milder feel to the weather has

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reached across the UK

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