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But hello and a warm welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will

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be bringing us tomorrow morning. With me a ballast and broadcaster

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Sophie, and Robert Fox, the defence editor of the London Evening

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Standard. Good to have U2. We are going to talk to you and hear your

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views in just a moment, we are going to look at the front pages so you

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know what we're talking about as well. The Financial Times leads with

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the news of a fresh investigation of Hillary Clinton's news of a private

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e-mail server. The Times says the news has stunned America. The eyes

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says that Donald Trump has begun to reduce the lead in the polls of

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Hillary Clinton. The Daily Mail produces criticism of the poor

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quality for mobile phone users and express carries reaction to the

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former Prime Minister's Tony Blair called, to remain supporters to try

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to block Brexit. And the Guardian has talk about you but drivers.

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Roberts, let us begin with Hillary Clinton, and these e-mails, which it

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has emerged, actually come from electronic devices belonging either

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to Clinton aide Huma Abedin for her husband Anthony Wiener. To do with a

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sexting investigation being carried out entirely separately, but she has

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been dragged into it. Apparently they found, private e-mails on those

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particular servers, they came from the private Clinton server which is

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held in upstate New York and it is Notting Hill it Clinton's name, it

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is in Bill Clinton's name. Let us go further. I think as a British

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journalist I can say something that hasn't been said clearly enough, the

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timing of this is very odd indeed. We have been combing the New York

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Times that has been very heavy on this kind of thing. We have had

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people on, I mean get on, say it. I have been a journalist nearly 50

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years, to come out with this now, on the weekend before polling, you have

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to do it now because you will get wall-to-wall coverage. Meet the

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Press, the Twitter sphere has been going bonkers wholly to the benefit

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of Trump. I'm not saying this is a conspiracy but I think that the

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director of the FBI must explain itself. He has made this very

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cryptic Harry Potter remarked saying we have found these things but we

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cannot go into it. Then, John Podesta, the chairman of the

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campaign has said that there may be something in it or maybe not. I

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noticed in your headlines, you assumed they would be huge matters

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of national security and fold like the whole previous one like

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Benghazi. What is so surprising, for Komi and I wouldn't give him a

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further chance of employment, is that, I don't want to... Comey.

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There is a lot in what he has said which is pure in new window, anybody

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advising him, he must have political advisers. So you are tipping the

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hand to Trump, has the Trump camp has picked up? What do you make of

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it? Everybody is subject to the rule of law in America, the problem is

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not just the timing but the way it looks and smells. We can all smell,

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that Donald Trump should not be, would not be, elected, but if there

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is no one standing against him, my goodness me. This could be safe and

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nominal. We will never come across this in 200 years. What is proper

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and right and correct is that the organs of the state should be

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applicable to whoever, wherever, whatever, even the President-elect,

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but what could happen, and I mean what could happen if we have Hillary

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winning, we could have a president being investigated, impeached by her

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own Congress, and let us not forget, this has happened once to a Clinton,

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for issues of libido. It appears it may happen to another Clinton. I am

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so concerned about the way this looks, for other people. Looking to

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America to see how election should be run. And how democracy should be

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exercised. It doesn't look right, it doesn't smell right and it jars and

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feel right. Robert, do you say, I see that John Podesta has

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effectively said, put it all out and let the American people know.

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Because it is too critical. Is it possible that she will be able to

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close this down critically? No, no, probably not. What is coming

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across, I take your point. This is the executive branch and there is a

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bit of a smell of things, that the executive branch is acting

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partially. They have got to be very clear and he should have come out,

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this is what we have found and these are grounds for investigation. He

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has hinted that it is very serious but he has breached Podesta that it

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may not be so serious. But there is a serious point against Terry

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Clinton and that is that she is secretive and she is inept. For

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goodness say, they went through this and they have the same problem when

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coding Powell was Secretary of State. As one of her close staff

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said, she's not bury good and she doesn't even run her own desktop PC.

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That really is not even good enough today, and it is very, very worrying

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indeed. You have got somebody who may be in charge of the nuclear

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codes, nuclear arsenal, in charge of Armageddon waiting to happen and it

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may be on somebody else's blackberry. That is what the issue

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is. To take your point, in all my life time of the American elections

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that I can remember, there is only one word that comes to mind, this is

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by far and away the weirdest, that I have come across. And now active has

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been running, we have to get used to that -- the narrative has been

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running. Two such inept and inappropriate candidates would be

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hard to imagine. Maybe you get the politicians that you deserve, I

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don't know. We will find out in ten days or so. Let us move along to

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look at a couple of stories in the Guardian. The first one has big

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implications in the UK, you are a barrister by training, what do you

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make of this ruling by the employment tribunal, that it doesn't

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by, Uber's defence, that the drivers are agents, and it just is like a

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meeting point for them. You think the tribunal was right, and whether

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you think it is right or not, what are the invitations? I think the

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employment tribunal is right but I also don't think that the decision

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will stand, it will not stand for two regions. It is because it will

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affect the economy not just for today and not just for the next

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quarter but for the next five years. Notwithstanding the fact that now we

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are in a digital economy, the economy is not moving forward and

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moving in a traditional manner. Soak each digital year is actually a

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quarter. The invitations for this is that when the stock market opens

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tomorrow, you can just wait to see what will happen to these new

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unicorn type companies many of which have not been floated yet. It will

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undermine the very basis of our economy. Let us not just look at the

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other side of this, this new type of work has brought choice, dignity, it

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has brought hope for many people who want to work, who want this

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flexibility. You need this flexibility, due to the pressures of

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the economy and how we are all living. The number of times I have

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got into Uber cars and found retired people. But it is not just that, it

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is the whole idea that this small-scale entrepreneurship, we

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haven't seen this type of thing. Is Uber really this small-scale

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business? That is the whole idea. I think you are right, I think

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technically, and you are the lawyer, but probably the tribunal is right,

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like you I don't think it will lie there. Because it is so, there does

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seem to be something like King Canute here. We are talking about

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the economy, you pick up an app, you do something and then you put it

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down. That is the way it goes. But I do understand the government trying

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to enforce things like the minimum wage rights, welfare and so one. But

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coming out of the end of the employment machine, I realise I have

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been living a version of the economy for the last 1718 years. Why should

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it be any different, your employment status, just because somebody books

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you through an app, otherwise I'll be back in the days of the old

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Labour scheme, the stand-up at the gates and if they don't want to this

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and you. That is the whole idea, Britain has been at the forefront of

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legislation that sets the rights and responsibilities between employers

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and employees. For the matter is not just of health and safety but once

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you improve the conditions of the people, where and how they work,

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society has taken huge leaps forward. This judgment has put this

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whole idea, are we moving forward. Notwithstanding the whole issue, I

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pointed this out to a man, to my taxi driver, that once you are

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employed by Uber, you are going to have a lot more women thinking I'm

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going to get into my cab, try the round, the school run because I will

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get maternity leave for the first time. Should we have an economy that

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is based on employees rights, or employers responsibilities. And of

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course the big elephant in the room, is the tax word. Who is paying for

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our roads, who is paying for our schools and hospitals, should it be

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big, mammoth, lumbering corporations which is found now on every phone,

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you and I, her and him, do not have the rights, can't take a holiday.

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The Guardian, has a thing, saying Uber drivers triumph. Do you think

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they have triumphed? In 20 years' time, the question on every A-level

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will be, did the decision in 2016, fundamentally changes economy and I

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think it will because it will finally have that debate that we had

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in Parliament and on the street and now it is going to go down to the

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law. Is this going to be the new factory act, where we think we have

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got to deliver yet what people deserve from their employers and

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what they should give back. But nothing stays and this is a question

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of manoeuvre. You can bet that Amazon, Google, Uber will be

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manoeuvring around this. You are absolutely right, this is the

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beginning of another phase. Very interesting, let us move on to the

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other stories, there is a picture of Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton,

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turning into some of the not so secret weapons of Hillary Clinton.

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But there is this story about Isis potentially using civilians as human

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shields as it tries to retain control of Mosul? I find this story

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but will drink, I am not there, I have been in Mosul, two or three

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years ago, and more than that, but I know, that area a bit. I find Isis,

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has been seriously underestimated. Because it operates a similar

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different levels. Technically, as a gorilla -based military, it is

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terribly good, at this kind of thing. Yes it can sacrifice human

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life but they have built tunnels, they are using, we call them IED 's,

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booby traps, they say on industrial scale. They picked up all of the

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knowledge from Iran, there have been real advances and why we were

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kidding that within 40 days we could be in Mosul, that is the Alliance

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and its friends, it would all be over. Unfortunately it is so

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complicated, Isis can fight a sort of Alamo fight in Mosul if it wants

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to but it is already prepared to go out in the desert, it has done it

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before. The real worry about this is who occupies in the end. Either way,

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a different way but it is the same question over a lap over. Suppose

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you occupied eastern Aleppo, who is going to occupy it, and the Russians

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know, that is why they are having a pause at the moment that they will

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have two back the troops there. The argument is made by some people are

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frankly anything is better than Isis. Get Isis Haupt, that is the

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priority? That is far too simplistic, a linear argument

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because what seems to be going on in northern Iraq is fragmentation,

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atomisation and what we are witnessing is the atomisation of

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Sunni communities, even the tribal system seems to be breaking down and

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subdividing, which means you won't get a unified aura unitary Iraq.

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That will have a colossal impact throughout the Arab world. That is

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why, we see tough military regimes like Egypt, it will shake them as

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well, this is deep rock mating but -- Epoque making. The forces that

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are going in are trying to manage the narrative and they are not

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succeeding. But they are not succeeding and we know how cunning

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Isis and Isil and Daesh or whatever you call them harder at managing

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their own narrative. It ain't over and the idea that by plonking

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yourself in Mosul and in Raqqa it is all over, please forget it. It is

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very dangerous and very delicate and it will have ramifications. Do you

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want to say a word briefly on this? Two years ago I sat here and I said

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is that the worst thing about Isis is it will not be door-to-door

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fighting, it would be the Digital fight, they are in every home, their

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videos, are impregnating every boy 's bedroom. We see this, we know

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what is happening, the push and full of this community and

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notwithstanding that this issue, I'm aware that the European Parliament

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awarded some of the women that escaped this area, they awarded them

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a prize, to standing firm in their communities. What worries me about

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this is that this war will not just be for this generation, my children

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will be sucked into this because, we won't even talk about Yemen. The

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whole of the Middle East. 100 years after the settlement in 1916, has

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been ripped apart. Time for two more stories. Front of the FT, Nissan

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warned ministers that it would leave the EU without Brexit guarantees.

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Everybody has been desperate to find out exactly what was said but what

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is interesting is that, pretty much, Nissan said if we don't get

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guarantees, then we are moving our work to Spain and France. Their

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existing plants. It sounds like it was a pretty straightforward threat.

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Li when this news first came out, we had spokesmen speaking and

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reasoning, it was clear, there is a deal. If Mrs made us think a deal,

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certainly Nissan thinks there is a deal. Then be get me to, Talia at

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hand Honda and Ford and everybody else. And at the bottom of this,

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Nissan have spotted this, they want a tariff deal and access to the free

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market, and the European single market. And, the four freedoms and

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they will not get around it. One thing that is clear, it is like a

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very badly Bilyk -- badly built Lego. I think this

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will go on and on, it is going to be such fun for the mischievous, Tony

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Blair is right about this, there will be a general election probably

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earlier than we think. On the terms. For me, this reads as if this is a

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diktats by oligarchs and corporations and interests, it is

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the sort of thing that we were accusing Europe of Comet is now

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happening in our own back door. As a lawyer you would love to see small

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print? Let me finally move on to the Times, a lovely photograph on the

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front, Ed Balls and his dancing partner. Ed Balls in a vivid blue

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suit, there he is. Not his yellow suit, and on the inside, says the

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country has huge issues. He should be doing it with you. But, are you

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missing him as a politician, or is he a better media personality? Well

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he is speaking chapter and verse again about why Labour failed in its

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ambitions to win the last general election. He appeals back as it

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were. The whole infighting between the last Shadow Cabinet and the last

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administration, and what you can see, is, hey man reborn. If Ed Balls

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had shown this much personality and panache and wonderful pussyfooting

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manoeuvring at the time, he could have been Chancellor. But he is

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actually showing, the importance of two things, personality built

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politics can actually change how people see you. It is a good full to

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end on, thank you so much. We will have two move off, that is it for

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the papers, before you go, the front pages. The Mirror reports that ten

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terror plots by Stanek State have been foiled in the last see and the

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sun has a same story with the big photograph Cheryl Cole.

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Thanks for your company, high will be back with the news at the top of

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the hour.

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