28/10/2016 The Papers

But hello and a warm welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will

be bringing us tomorrow morning. With me a ballast and broadcaster

Sophie, and Robert Fox, the defence editor of the London Evening

Standard. Good to have U2. We are going to talk to you and hear your

views in just a moment, we are going to look at the front pages so you

know what we're talking about as well. The Financial Times leads with

the news of a fresh investigation of Hillary Clinton's news of a private

e-mail server. The Times says the news has stunned America. The eyes

says that Donald Trump has begun to reduce the lead in the polls of

Hillary Clinton. The Daily Mail produces criticism of the poor

quality for mobile phone users and express carries reaction to the

former Prime Minister's Tony Blair called, to remain supporters to try

to block Brexit. And the Guardian has talk about you but drivers.

Roberts, let us begin with Hillary Clinton, and these e-mails, which it

has emerged, actually come from electronic devices belonging either

to Clinton aide Huma Abedin for her husband Anthony Wiener. To do with a

sexting investigation being carried out entirely separately, but she has

been dragged into it. Apparently they found, private e-mails on those

particular servers, they came from the private Clinton server which is

held in upstate New York and it is Notting Hill it Clinton's name, it

is in Bill Clinton's name. Let us go further. I think as a British

journalist I can say something that hasn't been said clearly enough, the

timing of this is very odd indeed. We have been combing the New York

Times that has been very heavy on this kind of thing. We have had

people on, I mean get on, say it. I have been a journalist nearly 50

years, to come out with this now, on the weekend before polling, you have

to do it now because you will get wall-to-wall coverage. Meet the

Press, the Twitter sphere has been going bonkers wholly to the benefit

of Trump. I'm not saying this is a conspiracy but I think that the

director of the FBI must explain itself. He has made this very

cryptic Harry Potter remarked saying we have found these things but we

cannot go into it. Then, John Podesta, the chairman of the

campaign has said that there may be something in it or maybe not. I

noticed in your headlines, you assumed they would be huge matters

of national security and fold like the whole previous one like

Benghazi. What is so surprising, for Komi and I wouldn't give him a

further chance of employment, is that, I don't want to... Comey.

There is a lot in what he has said which is pure in new window, anybody

advising him, he must have political advisers. So you are tipping the

hand to Trump, has the Trump camp has picked up? What do you make of

it? Everybody is subject to the rule of law in America, the problem is

not just the timing but the way it looks and smells. We can all smell,

that Donald Trump should not be, would not be, elected, but if there

is no one standing against him, my goodness me. This could be safe and

nominal. We will never come across this in 200 years. What is proper

and right and correct is that the organs of the state should be

applicable to whoever, wherever, whatever, even the President-elect,

but what could happen, and I mean what could happen if we have Hillary

winning, we could have a president being investigated, impeached by her

own Congress, and let us not forget, this has happened once to a Clinton,

for issues of libido. It appears it may happen to another Clinton. I am

so concerned about the way this looks, for other people. Looking to

America to see how election should be run. And how democracy should be

exercised. It doesn't look right, it doesn't smell right and it jars and

feel right. Robert, do you say, I see that John Podesta has

effectively said, put it all out and let the American people know.

Because it is too critical. Is it possible that she will be able to

close this down critically? No, no, probably not. What is coming

across, I take your point. This is the executive branch and there is a

bit of a smell of things, that the executive branch is acting

partially. They have got to be very clear and he should have come out,

this is what we have found and these are grounds for investigation. He

has hinted that it is very serious but he has breached Podesta that it

may not be so serious. But there is a serious point against Terry

Clinton and that is that she is secretive and she is inept. For

goodness say, they went through this and they have the same problem when

coding Powell was Secretary of State. As one of her close staff

said, she's not bury good and she doesn't even run her own desktop PC.

That really is not even good enough today, and it is very, very worrying

indeed. You have got somebody who may be in charge of the nuclear

codes, nuclear arsenal, in charge of Armageddon waiting to happen and it

may be on somebody else's blackberry. That is what the issue

is. To take your point, in all my life time of the American elections

that I can remember, there is only one word that comes to mind, this is

by far and away the weirdest, that I have come across. And now active has

been running, we have to get used to that -- the narrative has been

running. Two such inept and inappropriate candidates would be

hard to imagine. Maybe you get the politicians that you deserve, I

don't know. We will find out in ten days or so. Let us move along to

look at a couple of stories in the Guardian. The first one has big

implications in the UK, you are a barrister by training, what do you

make of this ruling by the employment tribunal, that it doesn't

by, Uber's defence, that the drivers are agents, and it just is like a

meeting point for them. You think the tribunal was right, and whether

you think it is right or not, what are the invitations? I think the

employment tribunal is right but I also don't think that the decision

will stand, it will not stand for two regions. It is because it will

affect the economy not just for today and not just for the next

quarter but for the next five years. Notwithstanding the fact that now we

are in a digital economy, the economy is not moving forward and

moving in a traditional manner. Soak each digital year is actually a

quarter. The invitations for this is that when the stock market opens

tomorrow, you can just wait to see what will happen to these new

unicorn type companies many of which have not been floated yet. It will

undermine the very basis of our economy. Let us not just look at the

other side of this, this new type of work has brought choice, dignity, it

has brought hope for many people who want to work, who want this

flexibility. You need this flexibility, due to the pressures of

the economy and how we are all living. The number of times I have

got into Uber cars and found retired people. But it is not just that, it

is the whole idea that this small-scale entrepreneurship, we

haven't seen this type of thing. Is Uber really this small-scale

business? That is the whole idea. I think you are right, I think

technically, and you are the lawyer, but probably the tribunal is right,

like you I don't think it will lie there. Because it is so, there does

seem to be something like King Canute here. We are talking about

the economy, you pick up an app, you do something and then you put it

down. That is the way it goes. But I do understand the government trying

to enforce things like the minimum wage rights, welfare and so one. But

coming out of the end of the employment machine, I realise I have

been living a version of the economy for the last 1718 years. Why should

it be any different, your employment status, just because somebody books

you through an app, otherwise I'll be back in the days of the old

Labour scheme, the stand-up at the gates and if they don't want to this

and you. That is the whole idea, Britain has been at the forefront of

legislation that sets the rights and responsibilities between employers

and employees. For the matter is not just of health and safety but once

you improve the conditions of the people, where and how they work,

society has taken huge leaps forward. This judgment has put this

whole idea, are we moving forward. Notwithstanding the whole issue, I

pointed this out to a man, to my taxi driver, that once you are

employed by Uber, you are going to have a lot more women thinking I'm

going to get into my cab, try the round, the school run because I will

get maternity leave for the first time. Should we have an economy that

is based on employees rights, or employers responsibilities. And of

course the big elephant in the room, is the tax word. Who is paying for

our roads, who is paying for our schools and hospitals, should it be

big, mammoth, lumbering corporations which is found now on every phone,

you and I, her and him, do not have the rights, can't take a holiday.

The Guardian, has a thing, saying Uber drivers triumph. Do you think

they have triumphed? In 20 years' time, the question on every A-level

will be, did the decision in 2016, fundamentally changes economy and I

think it will because it will finally have that debate that we had

in Parliament and on the street and now it is going to go down to the

law. Is this going to be the new factory act, where we think we have

got to deliver yet what people deserve from their employers and

what they should give back. But nothing stays and this is a question

of manoeuvre. You can bet that Amazon, Google, Uber will be

manoeuvring around this. You are absolutely right, this is the

beginning of another phase. Very interesting, let us move on to the

other stories, there is a picture of Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton,

turning into some of the not so secret weapons of Hillary Clinton.

But there is this story about Isis potentially using civilians as human

shields as it tries to retain control of Mosul? I find this story

but will drink, I am not there, I have been in Mosul, two or three

years ago, and more than that, but I know, that area a bit. I find Isis,

has been seriously underestimated. Because it operates a similar

different levels. Technically, as a gorilla -based military, it is

terribly good, at this kind of thing. Yes it can sacrifice human

life but they have built tunnels, they are using, we call them IED 's,

booby traps, they say on industrial scale. They picked up all of the

knowledge from Iran, there have been real advances and why we were

kidding that within 40 days we could be in Mosul, that is the Alliance

and its friends, it would all be over. Unfortunately it is so

complicated, Isis can fight a sort of Alamo fight in Mosul if it wants

to but it is already prepared to go out in the desert, it has done it

before. The real worry about this is who occupies in the end. Either way,

a different way but it is the same question over a lap over. Suppose

you occupied eastern Aleppo, who is going to occupy it, and the Russians

know, that is why they are having a pause at the moment that they will

have two back the troops there. The argument is made by some people are

frankly anything is better than Isis. Get Isis Haupt, that is the

priority? That is far too simplistic, a linear argument

because what seems to be going on in northern Iraq is fragmentation,

atomisation and what we are witnessing is the atomisation of

Sunni communities, even the tribal system seems to be breaking down and

subdividing, which means you won't get a unified aura unitary Iraq.

That will have a colossal impact throughout the Arab world. That is

why, we see tough military regimes like Egypt, it will shake them as

well, this is deep rock mating but -- Epoque making. The forces that

are going in are trying to manage the narrative and they are not

succeeding. But they are not succeeding and we know how cunning

Isis and Isil and Daesh or whatever you call them harder at managing

their own narrative. It ain't over and the idea that by plonking

yourself in Mosul and in Raqqa it is all over, please forget it. It is

very dangerous and very delicate and it will have ramifications. Do you

want to say a word briefly on this? Two years ago I sat here and I said

is that the worst thing about Isis is it will not be door-to-door

fighting, it would be the Digital fight, they are in every home, their

videos, are impregnating every boy 's bedroom. We see this, we know

what is happening, the push and full of this community and

notwithstanding that this issue, I'm aware that the European Parliament

awarded some of the women that escaped this area, they awarded them

a prize, to standing firm in their communities. What worries me about

this is that this war will not just be for this generation, my children

will be sucked into this because, we won't even talk about Yemen. The

whole of the Middle East. 100 years after the settlement in 1916, has

been ripped apart. Time for two more stories. Front of the FT, Nissan

warned ministers that it would leave the EU without Brexit guarantees.

Everybody has been desperate to find out exactly what was said but what

is interesting is that, pretty much, Nissan said if we don't get

guarantees, then we are moving our work to Spain and France. Their

existing plants. It sounds like it was a pretty straightforward threat.

Li when this news first came out, we had spokesmen speaking and

reasoning, it was clear, there is a deal. If Mrs made us think a deal,

certainly Nissan thinks there is a deal. Then be get me to, Talia at

hand Honda and Ford and everybody else. And at the bottom of this,

Nissan have spotted this, they want a tariff deal and access to the free

market, and the European single market. And, the four freedoms and

they will not get around it. One thing that is clear, it is like a

very badly Bilyk -- badly built Lego. I think this

will go on and on, it is going to be such fun for the mischievous, Tony

Blair is right about this, there will be a general election probably

earlier than we think. On the terms. For me, this reads as if this is a

diktats by oligarchs and corporations and interests, it is

the sort of thing that we were accusing Europe of Comet is now

happening in our own back door. As a lawyer you would love to see small

print? Let me finally move on to the Times, a lovely photograph on the

front, Ed Balls and his dancing partner. Ed Balls in a vivid blue

suit, there he is. Not his yellow suit, and on the inside, says the

country has huge issues. He should be doing it with you. But, are you

missing him as a politician, or is he a better media personality? Well

he is speaking chapter and verse again about why Labour failed in its

ambitions to win the last general election. He appeals back as it

were. The whole infighting between the last Shadow Cabinet and the last

administration, and what you can see, is, hey man reborn. If Ed Balls

had shown this much personality and panache and wonderful pussyfooting

manoeuvring at the time, he could have been Chancellor. But he is

actually showing, the importance of two things, personality built

politics can actually change how people see you. It is a good full to

end on, thank you so much. We will have two move off, that is it for

the papers, before you go, the front pages. The Mirror reports that ten

terror plots by Stanek State have been foiled in the last see and the

sun has a same story with the big photograph Cheryl Cole.

Thanks for your company, high will be back with the news at the top of

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