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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are Katie Martin from the Financial Times

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and Lucy Fisher Senior Political correspondent at The Times.

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Nice to have you both here. Tomorrow's front pages, this is how

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they are looking. The Financial Times, which leads

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with President-elect Trump's appointment of three conservative

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hardliners for his administration. The Daily Mirror looks

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at the ?369 million cost to the taxpayer of the refurbishment

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to Buckingham Palace The Daily Mail has an interview

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with the father of a girl who was cryogenically frozen

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following her death last month Unlike the girl's mother,

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he had opposed his daughter's The the Times has a picture of

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Theresa May and Angela Merkel who met in Berlin today. The European

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leaders are saying farewell to President Obama.

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The Telegraph leads with an announcement expected next

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week by the Chancellor, that will see cold callers

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being banned from targeting people in the wake of

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Forecasters warn of a weekend of snow and storms across the UK,

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The major refurb planned for Buckingham Palace

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is on the i's front page, with the paper detailing

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the potential fire risk of the ageing cables.

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We will start with the story on the front of the Daily Mail, agony of

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frozen Gold's father. This was a story that was embargoed until

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midnight last night for a month after this girl died. The father

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says in this story about the bitter row that has affected his family. He

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is suffering from cancer as well, as is his daughter. An extraordinary

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case. It is horrible, nothing nice to say about this story. It's been

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all over the papers today, clearly captivated the nation. It's

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difficult to see there are any winners here. It's just awful in

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every direction. The poor girl and the father is suffering from cancer

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himself. They had a disagreement, he and the mother of the child over

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what to do. It just sounds better and awful. The court case, it was

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not whether or not she should choose to cryonics league preserve her

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remains, it was about which of the parents should have a say over what

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Absolutely, about the rights of a Absolutely, about the rights of a

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child's last wishes when they haven't yet reached the age of 18.

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Who is to decide? I think it captured the nation's imagination

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because of this idea of freezing your body and the possibility of

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coming back 200 years later. What's really sad is the father. He's

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talked about these hope traders and his complete scepticism, whether the

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science is where all will ever be there to allow his daughter to be

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unfrozen and live again. Is a leap of faith, very few facilities in the

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world offer this service. It's in the hope that one day somebody might

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be able to do something? You have to imagine he wants what's best for his

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daughter, although she has passed away. He doesn't want people to be

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trading on false hope or slim hope. But... The human tragedy behind

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this, the family tragedy behind this is laid bare by the fact they can't

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agree. Whatever there is in the science, whatever the possibilities,

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whatever the legal ramifications, this is a very personal family

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tragedy. The only thing you can take from it if she got her wishes. She

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found out before she died this was going to be permissible. Absolutely.

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I am sure many people across the nation heard this morning her final

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letter to the judge saying she didn't want to die. It was

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absolutely heartbreaking. At least... She wanted to have this

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chance to try and cheat death and she did achieve it. The ethical

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moral dilemmas of if this technology ever becomes available, she could be

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brought back to life, in theory, to be treated for cancer but won't know

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anyone. It will be hundreds of years from now. That is a very peculiar

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thought, isn't it? It's very peculiar. If it works for her,

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presumably everybody could do it. Ultimately nobody really wants to

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die. So, as you said, there are these ramifications further down the

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line. What if everybody does it? What if everybody wakes up 200 years

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from now on to live in a completely different world? There are huge

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ethical questions here and we don't know the answers. And not very well

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regulated, it seems, this small industry? I think it is a very niche

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industry at the moment, highly expensive. She asked her father for

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?50,000, to be frozen at minus 196 Celsius, upside down in one of these

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cryopreservation tanks. It seems a bit sci-fi to me and I'm not

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convinced by it. I think it was her grandparents who helped raise the

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money? Yes. The Daily Mirror. Who pays the bill when one of the

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world's richest women in eat her house fixed up? You, of course. This

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is the Queen and Buckingham Palace needing a refurb. Yes, electrical

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cables are 40, the lead pipes, it all needs an update. ?370 million

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has been approved by the trustees to allow this overhaul of Buckingham

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Palace. And guess what, the usual suspects are not happy about! The

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public are out in force saying this is absolutely outrageous. Frankly, I

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think it is easy to see that when next week we are expecting the

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Autumn Statement, Theresa May is trying to give a boost to the just

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managing families, to see the Royal family getting millions and millions

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pounds in the next ten years to do at the Palace... It's only open

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during the summer months and doesn't necessarily seem for money to all

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quarters. It's a tricky one. But doesn't the Queen and the Royal

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family and all of this living history bring in billions to the

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country? Sure... But as we were just saying, we have got the Autumn

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Statement next week, which is going to be all about these just about

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managing families. Whilst we or worrying about spending a third of

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our income on childcare costs, it does seem slightly galling that the

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Queen is getting such a huge amount of money to do up her house. It's

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notable she doesn't have to move out during this process. She can just

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move into the East Wing whilst the West Wing is being done up. These

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are not any ordinary home repairs are going on here. Nonetheless, as

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you say, there is a public interest. Nobody wants the Palace to burn down

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or flood. It's full of antiques and of items that are of national

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importance. Just the timing. And also the amount... It's a round

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number that is very similar to this ?350 million a week we're all

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supposed to be saving from leaving the EU. Whether that exists or not

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we don't know yet, but there's a lot of parallels here and there's really

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awkward timing that doesn't go down well with a paper like the Daily

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Mirror. The FT and the Times on the appointments President-elect Trump

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has been making. KT, if we're led to believe the direction he's going in,

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it's conservative and quite hard line. Quite hard line is putting it

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mildly. Once Donald Trump knew he had won he came out with a speech

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that was quite conciliatory and talked about being a president for

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all of America. But that seems to have melted away pretty quickly.

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Some of the appointments have already been extremely contentious

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and the ones we have seen come through today have really got people

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upset and excited. In particular, I would say, the appointment of Jeff

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Sessions, the Attorney General role. He was previously turned down for a

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federal Judge role on the basis people thought his comments were too

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racist in the 80s. He has resurfaced into this role now. Mike Flynn, very

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hard line, you said various things about Muslims in America that are

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rather ugly to our ears. So it seems to be pretty divisive. Some of these

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appointments will have to go through a congressional hearing, but the

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Republicans control Congress? Yes, that's right. I think it remains to

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be seen, what we've seen so far from Donald Trump is he is quite a

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whimsical and material character. Pointing these hardliners, will sit

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down with Mitt Romney and some of his opponents and rivals within the

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Republican party, said that we will see a bit of balance from across the

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GOP. But his family, whether they are going to be part of any of these

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jobs. The Times Ed Ivanka Trump, I don't intend to be part of my

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father's government, I thought the kids were meant to be running his

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businesses? There's a lot of confusion about the rules. Previous

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presidents have put their businesses into blind trusts. That makes sense,

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there can be no conflicts of interest. But today Ivanka Trump was

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in that meeting with the Japanese premier and I think there's a lot of

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smelling Sarah Mack, people thinking, why is the

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President-elect's daughter coming to a meeting with a world leader? His

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son-in-law is supposed to look at the loopholes that might allow him

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to be a legal adviser. Yes, quite a power couple. I wouldn't put it past

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him, where there's a will there's a way. I'm sure they will find a

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loophole if there is one. It does sit rather uncomfortably that Ivanka

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Trump talks about not wanting to be part of the government and then

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there she is, sitting in this meeting with the Japanese Prime

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Minister. What on earth is she doing there? It does look rather awkward.

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Let's stay with the Times and talking of awkward photos, look at

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the expressions on these faces! Eurovisions. Theresa May and Angela

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Merkel, saying farewell to President Obama. The picture editor has been

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told to go out and find a picture that represents national stereotypes

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for the Brits and Germans and this is what they have come up with.

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Angela Merkel looks rather frosty. It sounds like she has rebuffed

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approaches from Theresa May to get talking about the Brexit process.

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Theresa May did say today we are on track to be triggering Article 50,

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this two year divorce process from the EU, by the end of March next

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year. Angela, true to national stereotypes, has stuck to the rules

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and said once you have done that we can have a conversation about it.

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President Obama was apparently talking to Angela Merkel about her

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being leader of the free West? Yes, interesting, wasn't it? Obama really

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stuck the boot in and said the special relationship is in between

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the US and the UK but the US and Germany. Called Angela Merkel his

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closest ally. I think she has stood up for the values of liberalism much

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more open stance towards immigration. I'm not surprised Obama

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is championing her bravery when across the rest of Europe that seems

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to be a more fragile consensus. Shall we look at the express, page

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four. Senior Tory backs calls for Nigel Farage to be given period. I'm

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not sure Nigel Farage wants this, at least just yet, but who is

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suggesting he gets it? He's trying to retire from politics you know! He

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doesn't want anything to do with it any more. There is a backbench Tory

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MP, Graham Brady, who is saying the Ukip leader deserves, the former

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Ukip Wheater or is he the Ukip leader? Interim. That he deserves

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the honour. Also there's some talk about putting him into some sort of

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informal role as a go-between between Theresa May and Donald

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Trump. In terms of the peerage... I know we have slightly different

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views about this. I tend to think... It's the definition of a divisive

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appointment to put him in a position like that. I think you can't keep

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him out. Whatever you think of his politics he has led the rise of an

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insurgent party at the general election last year, received 4

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million votes almost, almost 13% of the popular vote share. I think at

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least the party deserves some appointees in the House of Lords,

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whether they want to give that to Farage, let's leave it up to Ukip. I

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think keeping them out is only going to fuel antiestablishment sentiment.

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Doesn't seem like he's in a hurry? It doesn't. I think is hoping to

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play a bit of a role in the Trump administration. He's had several

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decades now at the forefront of British politics. He has this

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lecture tour, is going to go round Europe and tried whip up anti-EU

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feeling elsewhere. You get the sense he's really enjoying himself. On

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Radio 4's any questions he said it's not going to happen, it's not what I

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want at this moment in my life. But when his old he might think about

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it, if the offer is still there! Right, the Telegraph, speaking of

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Brexit. Sturgeon's chance to veto Brexit. We have heard today that the

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Scottish Government and the Welsh Assembly... This is the Scottish

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Telegraph, thank you to that voice in my ear for reminding me. The two

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devolved governments get the chance to go to the Supreme Court as

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interveners, not parties to it, but in this case that's been referred as

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a result of the appeal by the government against the success

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challenging whether the government can just trigger Brexit before

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putting it before Parliament. The High Court said Parliament have to

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have a say. The government are taking it to the Supreme Court. Why

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might this be a chance for Nicola Sturgeon to stir the pot a bit?

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Because, of course, Scotland voted to remain and this is the problem.

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Brexit doesn't only threaten the European Union, there's the union of

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the United Kingdom at stake. I think it's perfectly valid for her to say

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our nation voted slightly differently, we want to have our own

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input, and that alongside already arguments about if the government

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needs to seek parliament's approval to invoke Article 50, whether

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Article 50 is reversible. There are so many questions around Brexit

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remaining. There is also the issue that constitutionally it's very much

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in the interests of Wales and Scotland to act in this way, because

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it very much will affect their constitution if we are in or outside

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of the EU. Exactly, it affects them constitutionally but this is the

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very purpose, they are there to represent the people of Scotland and

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Wales. As this story points out, 62% of people in Scotland voted to

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remain. It's not even a slightly different view from the rest of the

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UK, it's a hugely different view to the rest of the UK. This is very

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much Nicola Sturgeon's moment to that view forward. The paper has a

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QC writing today saying this could explode the cosy consensus that the

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two year process for leaving the EU cannot be undone. We are slightly

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shooting in the dark. Nobody understands how this process is

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going to play out. But the fact gives Scotland and Wales an

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opportunity to put a spanner in the works... A goes on to say that if,

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this is really getting ahead of ourselves, if Nicola Sturgeon went

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to the European Court of Justice, we are only way from that everybody, it

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would leave the door ajar if she was successful at the ECJ for the entire

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of the UK to stay in the EU and she could use it as a bargaining chip.

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Couldn't she does? The SNP trying to leverage. One minute left to discuss

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something that brought joy to my heart last weekend. The Daily

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Mirror, Ed can win it. This is one of the former judges on Strictly

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saying Ed Balls and his great entertainment value... But is he a

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dancer? He is an entertainer. I wouldn't say his dancing is the best

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on the show, but he's the one everyone looks forward to. If I tune

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in on a Saturday night, I hope he makes it all the way to the final.

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You are not the Strictly fan but I think you have to look at diplomat.

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I am almost tempted to watch it. You must. OK. That is it to the papers.

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Don't forget, all the front pages are online on the BBC News website

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where you can read a detailed review of the papers.

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It's all there for you - 7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers,

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and you can see us there too, with each night's edition

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of The Papers being posted on the page shortly

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Thank you Katie Martin and Lucy Fisher.

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I hope you enjoyed it, you seemed to! I hope you come back. Lucy, nice

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to see you again. We have the weather in a minute and then the

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headlines. Good evening. The cold and wintry

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theme continues for the next couple of days, for much of the week ahead.

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But wet and windy weather on the cards for later

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