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We'll be looking at tomorrow's papers. | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
With me are the home affairs editor of the Evening Standard, | :00:18. | :00:19. | |
and the deputy head of sport at the Sun, | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
The Observer claims Europe's leaders are to force the UK | :00:26. | :00:36. | |
into a hard Brexit in a bid to see off any future | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
populist insurgencies that might lead to the break-up | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
The Sunday Times says the Queen is to invite Donald Trump to Windsor | :00:44. | :00:49. | |
with ministers hoping she'll help cement ties | :00:50. | :00:53. | |
The Chancellor, Philip Hammond will pledge to spend more | :00:54. | :00:59. | |
than ?1 billion in a road-building bonanza | :01:00. | :01:01. | |
in his Autumn Statement on Wednesday, reports the Independent. | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
Meanwhile, the Sunday Telegraph warns that the Autumn Statement may | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
include a tax raid on middle-class job perks, | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
such as health checks and gym memberships. | :01:13. | :01:25. | |
OK, let's begin with the paper review. We start with the Observer. | :01:26. | :01:34. | |
It would be the lead story here. The hard Brexit. What other European | :01:35. | :01:40. | |
leaders saying? They reported as thinking, although there are any | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
quotes, that they want to not make any concessions on free movement and | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
therefore force us into what is termed a hard Brexit. Why did they | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
say they are going to do this? Because they are worried that if | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
they make concessions, Angela Merkel said this week, if they make | :01:59. | :02:03. | |
concessions to the UK, every other country will start wanting its own | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
concessions and they don't want to go down that road. That is the | :02:08. | :02:11. | |
argument. Obviously, we have to wait and see as to what actually | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
transpires because the negotiations haven't started yet, there are | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
elections in France and Germany, which this story refers to. Martin, | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
we've got the Court of Appeal coming up in January. There is a thing | :02:27. | :02:36. | |
about making the challenge before we can go trigger Article 50. It is | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
interesting, the European leaders talking about a hard Brexit, at the | :02:42. | :02:49. | |
same time, Brexit members like Liam Fox and David Davies art keen on a | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
hard Brexit but Ford different reasons. Here, it's about trying to | :02:54. | :03:01. | |
keep everything together. If Britain suffers going down that road, it may | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
prevent Marine Le Pen women -- winning. We have a serious challenge | :03:07. | :03:14. | |
by the AFD to Angela McCall coming up. It is true, the European | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
leadership are trying now to make an example of the UK the Devon to run | :03:21. | :03:29. | |
away from their grand scheme, others in this country suggest we did | :03:30. | :03:37. | |
shouldn't be doing so. -- daring to run away. | :03:38. | :03:47. | |
The article talks about Marine Le Pen. She must be grabbing her hands | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
with glee. It depends with how the French people vote. Of course. What | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
Nigel Farage is predicting here, and he did predict the Brexit vote and | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
Donald Trump's victory, he is now saying that Marine Le Pen, the | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
inconceivable could happen, she might winds. Most forecasts seem to | :04:08. | :04:18. | |
suggest she will get to the run-off. Hitherto the centrists are. There is | :04:19. | :04:27. | |
a big... But hitherto what has happened, exactly as you say, the | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
left and right have come together, the hard right -- not the hard right | :04:31. | :04:37. | |
but the Conservative Party and the Socialists have come together to | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
stop the National Front winning. That is what is inspected to happen | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
again if she gets through to the second round in this presidential | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
election. He is suggesting all source of extra ordinary things have | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
happened and this could be other one, in which case, she was today | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
filed out of the euro and out of the EU. There would be no way you could | :04:57. | :05:05. | |
hold it together. It is too unlikely, to be frank, that this | :05:06. | :05:08. | |
would happen. There is an awful lot going on in Europe. It is quite | :05:09. | :05:13. | |
dangerous to say that. All the unlikely things! Discount nothing! | :05:14. | :05:19. | |
We are going to say with Brexit in a way and turn to The Times. An | :05:20. | :05:27. | |
interesting story on the front page of The Times. It involves Mr Blair. | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
What is the connection between Tony Blair and Brexit? Blair takes them | :05:33. | :05:40. | |
you that he needs to come back from the self-imposed wilderness and take | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
a pivotal role. Apparently, he thinks that Theresa May is a total | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
lightweight and Jeremy Corbyn is an utter. I don't think that Mr Blair, | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
who I think Robert Lee is quite toxic still, really would say that | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
Jeremy Corbyn is a nutter, even though he might well think that. | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
It's interesting whether Blair is the person who can bring together | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
the country, I find difficult to believe. I think he is still seen as | :06:11. | :06:17. | |
responsible for the chaotic mess that was the Gulf War and he will | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
always be tarnished by that incident, irrespective of anything | :06:23. | :06:24. | |
else he achieved in his 11 years as Prime Minister. He is certainly | :06:25. | :06:32. | |
toxic for many of the Labour Party activist's point of view. It is hard | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
to see him paying -- playing an important role there. Apparently, he | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
is due to meet Theresa May soon, at the same time, his people are saying | :06:42. | :06:47. | |
Theresa May is a light weight. That will go down well! He was to come | :06:48. | :06:55. | |
back and play awhile -- play a role. Of course, at the same time, we have | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
had suggestions last week that David Miliband might come back from needle | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
where he is currently running an international rescue charity. I'm | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
not go to quote exact what the paper says but essentially, the message, | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
via the source, is that the Tories are messing up, not the word in the | :07:16. | :07:21. | |
paper, messing up works it. And he is having meetings allegedly with | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
George Osborne. With everybody else as well. Girard Krishna. Also, he | :07:26. | :07:33. | |
has recruited Jim Murphy to become his adviser on how to get over and | :07:34. | :07:39. | |
get back under the Westminster bubble, to a degree. He probably has | :07:40. | :07:47. | |
more impact in the US than he is regarded here. He may actually have | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
an important significant role he can play there. And behind-the-scenes, I | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
think in public here it is problematic but behind-the-scenes, | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
he probably can. Whatever one feels about the end of his reign and the | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
fact that he was clearly tarnished by the Gulf War, he was a figure for | :08:07. | :08:14. | |
the first part of the century, he was one of the dominant political | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
figures on the planet. The paper associates currently looking for | :08:20. | :08:21. | |
promises of round Westminster so we will see how fat backroads. -- how | :08:22. | :08:35. | |
far that goes. Next, a stealth tax. We've got the Autumn Statement on | :08:36. | :08:38. | |
Wednesday. Lots of significant financial detail is going to be | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
revealed about the current state of the nations finances. There is some | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
talk that the Chancellor was to make it less of an event than it has | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
recently been and concentrate most things in the budget but what it is | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
talking about here is that you can forego a part of your salary to | :08:56. | :08:58. | |
receive things like private health and gym membership and so on. The | :08:59. | :09:06. | |
salary sacrifice scheme, and play less tax. Basically, it is saying | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
this is a middle-class perk, in effect, and he might be going to | :09:11. | :09:17. | |
clamp down on it. Jam, just about managing families. I've not heard of | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
that before. It's the new buzz acronym for the next couple of | :09:23. | :09:29. | |
years. It is the same group of people being differently branded, | :09:30. | :09:36. | |
oh, here we go again, more rebranding. But it will be | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
interesting. If you have the Telegraph criticising, and I think | :09:41. | :09:43. | |
they will do because it is their readers who are being targeted, the | :09:44. | :09:51. | |
male will go down that path and I suspect but less aggressive. Of | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
course, when the governors has limited money, it is bubbly right | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
that people who are more affluent don't have as many tax benefits as | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
when people at the bottom of the pile are perhaps not doing so well. | :10:07. | :10:13. | |
Everyone believes that people should sacrifice, but they don't believe | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
themselves should sacrifice. It seems that the Queen, not quite | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
sacrificing, but she is going to be the secret weapon to bring in Donald | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
Trump over onto our side, according to The Times. Talking about a state | :10:28. | :10:32. | |
visit as soon as possible. That would make sense, whatever people | :10:33. | :10:36. | |
think about him, he will be leading America bother next four years and | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
of course we should do everything we can to cultivate good relations. The | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
Queen camp where useful role in that. I got the feeling reading | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
through this it was almost as if it was trying to get one over on Nigel | :10:51. | :10:57. | |
Farage. The only quotes come from Nigel Farage. He has probably | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
arranged it! He tried to position himself as the link between the UK | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
and the US, Theresa May would not want that to be the case. There is | :11:08. | :11:10. | |
all this talk of special relationships once again. Talking | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
about the Thatcher Reagan relationship. The British government | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
need to be close to the American government, even if it doesn't | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
particularly like the American president, particularly in a post | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
Brexit future. Of course. We have to expand the English speaking markets | :11:32. | :11:33. | |
because they will be the easiest ones to get into. Another thing is | :11:34. | :11:39. | |
there has been controversy about the refurbishment to Buckingham Palace, | :11:40. | :11:42. | |
a slightly separate issue, but at the same time, the Royal family, the | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
Queen, Prince Charles, and Prince William, they have a significant | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
diplomatic role and they are quite useful to the country. They can do | :11:51. | :11:58. | |
something that other people can't, sometimes. We will continue this | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
conversation and pick it up at 11:30pm. For now, Martin and Martin, | :12:02. | :12:08. | |
thank you. We will be back again at 11:30pm. Coming up next, here on BBC | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
News, it is Reporters. | :12:12. | :12:14. |