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We'll be looking at tomorrow's papers.

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With me are the home affairs editor of the Evening Standard,

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and the deputy head of sport at the Sun,

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The Observer claims Europe's leaders are to force the UK

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into a hard Brexit in a bid to see off any future

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populist insurgencies that might lead to the break-up

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The Sunday Times says the Queen is to invite Donald Trump to Windsor

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with ministers hoping she'll help cement ties

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The Chancellor, Philip Hammond will pledge to spend more

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than ?1 billion in a road-building bonanza

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in his Autumn Statement on Wednesday, reports the Independent.

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Meanwhile, the Sunday Telegraph warns that the Autumn Statement may

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include a tax raid on middle-class job perks,

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such as health checks and gym memberships.

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OK, let's begin with the paper review. We start with the Observer.

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It would be the lead story here. The hard Brexit. What other European

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leaders saying? They reported as thinking, although there are any

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quotes, that they want to not make any concessions on free movement and

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therefore force us into what is termed a hard Brexit. Why did they

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say they are going to do this? Because they are worried that if

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they make concessions, Angela Merkel said this week, if they make

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concessions to the UK, every other country will start wanting its own

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concessions and they don't want to go down that road. That is the

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argument. Obviously, we have to wait and see as to what actually

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transpires because the negotiations haven't started yet, there are

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elections in France and Germany, which this story refers to. Martin,

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we've got the Court of Appeal coming up in January. There is a thing

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about making the challenge before we can go trigger Article 50. It is

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interesting, the European leaders talking about a hard Brexit, at the

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same time, Brexit members like Liam Fox and David Davies art keen on a

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hard Brexit but Ford different reasons. Here, it's about trying to

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keep everything together. If Britain suffers going down that road, it may

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prevent Marine Le Pen women -- winning. We have a serious challenge

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by the AFD to Angela McCall coming up. It is true, the European

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leadership are trying now to make an example of the UK the Devon to run

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away from their grand scheme, others in this country suggest we did

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shouldn't be doing so. -- daring to run away.

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The article talks about Marine Le Pen. She must be grabbing her hands

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with glee. It depends with how the French people vote. Of course. What

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Nigel Farage is predicting here, and he did predict the Brexit vote and

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Donald Trump's victory, he is now saying that Marine Le Pen, the

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inconceivable could happen, she might winds. Most forecasts seem to

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suggest she will get to the run-off. Hitherto the centrists are. There is

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a big... But hitherto what has happened, exactly as you say, the

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left and right have come together, the hard right -- not the hard right

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but the Conservative Party and the Socialists have come together to

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stop the National Front winning. That is what is inspected to happen

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again if she gets through to the second round in this presidential

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election. He is suggesting all source of extra ordinary things have

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happened and this could be other one, in which case, she was today

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filed out of the euro and out of the EU. There would be no way you could

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hold it together. It is too unlikely, to be frank, that this

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would happen. There is an awful lot going on in Europe. It is quite

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dangerous to say that. All the unlikely things! Discount nothing!

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We are going to say with Brexit in a way and turn to The Times. An

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interesting story on the front page of The Times. It involves Mr Blair.

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What is the connection between Tony Blair and Brexit? Blair takes them

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you that he needs to come back from the self-imposed wilderness and take

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a pivotal role. Apparently, he thinks that Theresa May is a total

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lightweight and Jeremy Corbyn is an utter. I don't think that Mr Blair,

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who I think Robert Lee is quite toxic still, really would say that

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Jeremy Corbyn is a nutter, even though he might well think that.

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It's interesting whether Blair is the person who can bring together

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the country, I find difficult to believe. I think he is still seen as

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responsible for the chaotic mess that was the Gulf War and he will

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always be tarnished by that incident, irrespective of anything

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else he achieved in his 11 years as Prime Minister. He is certainly

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toxic for many of the Labour Party activist's point of view. It is hard

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to see him paying -- playing an important role there. Apparently, he

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is due to meet Theresa May soon, at the same time, his people are saying

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Theresa May is a light weight. That will go down well! He was to come

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back and play awhile -- play a role. Of course, at the same time, we have

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had suggestions last week that David Miliband might come back from needle

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where he is currently running an international rescue charity. I'm

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not go to quote exact what the paper says but essentially, the message,

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via the source, is that the Tories are messing up, not the word in the

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paper, messing up works it. And he is having meetings allegedly with

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George Osborne. With everybody else as well. Girard Krishna. Also, he

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has recruited Jim Murphy to become his adviser on how to get over and

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get back under the Westminster bubble, to a degree. He probably has

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more impact in the US than he is regarded here. He may actually have

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an important significant role he can play there. And behind-the-scenes, I

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think in public here it is problematic but behind-the-scenes,

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he probably can. Whatever one feels about the end of his reign and the

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fact that he was clearly tarnished by the Gulf War, he was a figure for

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the first part of the century, he was one of the dominant political

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figures on the planet. The paper associates currently looking for

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promises of round Westminster so we will see how fat backroads. -- how

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far that goes. Next, a stealth tax. We've got the Autumn Statement on

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Wednesday. Lots of significant financial detail is going to be

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revealed about the current state of the nations finances. There is some

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talk that the Chancellor was to make it less of an event than it has

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recently been and concentrate most things in the budget but what it is

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talking about here is that you can forego a part of your salary to

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receive things like private health and gym membership and so on. The

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salary sacrifice scheme, and play less tax. Basically, it is saying

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this is a middle-class perk, in effect, and he might be going to

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clamp down on it. Jam, just about managing families. I've not heard of

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that before. It's the new buzz acronym for the next couple of

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years. It is the same group of people being differently branded,

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oh, here we go again, more rebranding. But it will be

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interesting. If you have the Telegraph criticising, and I think

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they will do because it is their readers who are being targeted, the

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male will go down that path and I suspect but less aggressive. Of

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course, when the governors has limited money, it is bubbly right

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that people who are more affluent don't have as many tax benefits as

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when people at the bottom of the pile are perhaps not doing so well.

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Everyone believes that people should sacrifice, but they don't believe

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themselves should sacrifice. It seems that the Queen, not quite

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sacrificing, but she is going to be the secret weapon to bring in Donald

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Trump over onto our side, according to The Times. Talking about a state

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visit as soon as possible. That would make sense, whatever people

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think about him, he will be leading America bother next four years and

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of course we should do everything we can to cultivate good relations. The

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Queen camp where useful role in that. I got the feeling reading

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through this it was almost as if it was trying to get one over on Nigel

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Farage. The only quotes come from Nigel Farage. He has probably

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arranged it! He tried to position himself as the link between the UK

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and the US, Theresa May would not want that to be the case. There is

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all this talk of special relationships once again. Talking

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about the Thatcher Reagan relationship. The British government

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need to be close to the American government, even if it doesn't

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particularly like the American president, particularly in a post

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Brexit future. Of course. We have to expand the English speaking markets

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because they will be the easiest ones to get into. Another thing is

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there has been controversy about the refurbishment to Buckingham Palace,

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a slightly separate issue, but at the same time, the Royal family, the

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Queen, Prince Charles, and Prince William, they have a significant

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diplomatic role and they are quite useful to the country. They can do

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something that other people can't, sometimes. We will continue this

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conversation and pick it up at 11:30pm. For now, Martin and Martin,

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thank you. We will be back again at 11:30pm. Coming up next, here on BBC

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News, it is Reporters.

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