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We'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment.

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With me is Martin, the deputy head of sport at The Sun. And the editor

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at the London Evening Standard. We will go through the papers in a

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moment. First off, a look at the papers. The Daily Telegraph.

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The Daily Telegraph claims that Royal Mail staff,

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as well as rail and airport workers, may strike over Christmas,

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leaving Theresa May facing pressure over "industrial chaos."

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The paper also notes Andy Murray's third Sports Personality victory.

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The Guardian also celebrates Murray's win, but focuses on claims

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that the justice secretary had prior warning ahead of the riot at HMP

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The Metro leads with former Chancellor George Osborne's verdict

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that his warnings about the UK being poorer after Brexit

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Brexit also dominates the Financial Times,

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but the paper focuses on fears about exit talks being delayed

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will mean banks leaving the UK for abroad.

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The Times claims that Britain is dumping overseas aid money

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into trust funds to try meet the country's annual target.

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And the Daily Mail leads with the claim that millions

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of pounds of UK aid money has been used to fund a talk show

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OK. We will begin. Lovely to see you. We will start with the

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Guardian. Liz Truss and Birmingham Prison. The disturbance of the major

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rioting, the prison has been out of control. It has been subdued. It is

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talking about how Liz Truss was warned two months ago about the

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dangers of such an incident at Birmingham. There were not enough

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staff. Quite a large prison, 1500 inmates, one of the largest in the

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country. It goes on to talk about the problem of drugs in the prison.

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One of those watchdogs has talked about this. The thing about this is,

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and the story quotes Nick, the Chief Inspector of the prison until the

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end of the year, he warned explicitly, as did his replacement,

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about the risk of legal highs, psychoactive drugs. They were

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creating a tremendously violent atmosphere imprisoned. This has been

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well-documented. This story shows that the secretary warned of the

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dangers of Birmingham, and predecessors had been warned about

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this risk actually buy the chief inspectors of prisons. For many

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years it has been growing, the concern about the levels of violent

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incidents in prison. Drugs being thrown over the wall and all sorts

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of things. And then cutting staff members by 30% since 2010. You have

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a situation where in essence there are increasingly unstable inmates in

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there. And at the same time, fewer and fewer staff to deal with them.

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It is a toxic problem unfortunately. The danger that has been spread.

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There is a suggestion from a prison in Hull. It is a bit of a tinderbox

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situation. It seems some have been involved in the instigation of the

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Birmingham issues. And it is clearly a growing concern. I also wonder

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sometimes how it can be avoided. It is all well and fine to talk about

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when these things happen. But whether the Justice Secretary or any

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civil servant can actually prevent random out sparks of violent. The

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two things are, the current Justice Secretary has not been in her post

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very long, and has inherited a problem that has been in the making

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since they cut the offices in prisons why such a large number

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since 2010 onwards. -- by. She has landed with this problem and now has

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to deal with it. The problem with her side is that it is actually not

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a problem, according to her, it is simple to deal with here and now.

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More numbers in fewer prisons, a better ratio between staff and

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prisoners, and we also need a better way of stopping drugs coming in.

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They talk about nets, don't they? Providing more nets and body scan

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is. You cannot throw them like that. If these things are coming in by

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drone it does not matter how big the nets are, these are co-ordinated.

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There are many instances where they could stop it. There was a killing

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of an inmate earlier this year. There were problems previous to

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this. But there was a report there were broken windows and drones were

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flying out of window ledges and going out through the window.

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Interestingly, the Times also has this story on its front page. I

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don't know if either of you picked up on the point that, I think the UK

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has the largest number of prisoners or people being sent to prison

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compared to the rest of Europe. I mean, you were saying... Are we

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going back to 20 years ago? Often there is the belief, and

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understandably, that I think you need to have two show you have a

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more Draconian sentencing policy. But the argument is all you do is

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institutionalise people more and make them more likely to offend when

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they come out. And you are putting them in small spaces designed for a

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particular number and having them share cells, et cetera. There is an

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argument we have been at that level for quite some time and the violence

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is now happening because there is in essence not enough staff. So they

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have said they are not prepared to pay for enough staff to cope with

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the numbers they have got. There are warnings by the chairman of the OA

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in Hull. It has been happening for years. Let us stay with the Times.

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But stay with the aid story. Dumping these incredible figures into trust

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funds. This is a toxic issue for many Tory MPs in particular, that

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David Cameron set this to get of 0.7% of GDP spent on aid. That is a

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very worthy objective and lots of it does achieve some good things. But

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there is the feeling, and this story reflects that, what has been

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happening, to make sure we meet that target, but the department for

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international development is putting money into these trust funds, and

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that money is sitting there in those funds. If you have a budget and need

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to spend it in a certain period of time, you get to the end and say you

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have not spent enough and you put it in a fund. What happens to these

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accounts? Literally just sitting there. Just sitting there? A large

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amount of it. ?4 billion apparently. And also the sheer scale, 0.7% of

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national income equating to ?12 billion this year alone which is a

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vast sum of money when we know there is other... Social care. Yeah. We

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understand international aid can be good to event legal migration,

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people fleeing their state of advance. If that is sitting on a

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bank account, that is clearly not satisfactory. The World Bank

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charging 240 million to UK taxpayers just defined what hasn't been spent.

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Andy Murray. -- just to fund. Yet another strike for Theresa May. The

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only thing keeping this country running over the last few days is

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elves, sleighs and reindeer. Everything is stopping. Trains are

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stopping. Flying as well. And now they will be a mail stoppage. A

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threat of a strike to prevent presence -- presents being

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delivered. I am a massive satsuma fan. The front of the Sun. Picking

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up the traffic story. This is a story suggesting... This is

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something already happening in London, the council has powers to

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police bus lanes and all those things. It is saying these powers

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are going to go from the police outside London to the local

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authorities. And of course, as you say, that will be more rigourously

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enforced. The police don't really like to do traffic enforcement any

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more. So many people will be hit by them now. Anyone in London would say

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they are pretty good at spotting any minor offence and you will get a

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fine in a number of days. With all those cameras. This will get

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people's blood boiling. Why don't people just not stop in bus lanes?

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They need to be aware of signals and all indications. Have you gone down

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a one-way street without knowing it or taken a wrong turn? People

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followed the Sat Nav. It says turn left. I blame my Sat Nav. I found

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myself in a spot where it is only for a bath. I thought, why am I in

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this spot? -- bus. Suddenly, click, click, I had a fine. Andy Murray,

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the front of the Guardian. He is great and popular and a deserved

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winner. He has been in a marvellous, magnificent... He is only popular

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now. Once he shared those tears after winning the Wimbledon final,

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people realised... Is that all it took? Loves a Gavin Lewis and human

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interest. We talk about England losing at the ball and we got so

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used to it that it doesn't even seem to matter any more but that has gone

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into the background. -- football. This is so significant. We need

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positive news in tennis. It has been a long time coming. We have had

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success in athletics, but tennis! He has been brilliant. But Edmund and

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others want to follow him. I know about Murray is that he is

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happy to be a role model, wants to be and wants to encourage kids to

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play. He'll do everything that he can to get kids on the court and

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that's great. Well played Andy Murray. All happened at the right

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time for him. Fantastic news. And on that note, we're going to have to

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say thank you and goodbye to both of you. It's been great fun. And that

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was the Papers tonight. Don't forget, all of the front pages are

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online on the BBC News website where you can read a detailed review of

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the papers. All there for you seven days a week. And you can see us

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there too with each night's edition of the Papers which is posted on the

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page shortly after we finished. So thank you to Martin Lipton and

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Martin Bantham. Coming up next is the Film Review. But from me, from

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the three of us actually, it's goodnight.

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