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that, because there is traffic. OK, the police are now calling it a | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
terror attack in Berlin. Thank you for joining us. | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
Let's look at some of the front pages. Many of them lead on the | :00:07. | :00:11. | |
events over the last 2-3 hours from Berlin. Natalie Haynes and Rob | :00:12. | :00:18. | |
Merrick join me. We will start with the Guardian, which has on the front | :00:19. | :00:24. | |
page nine dead in Berlin, truck horror, dozens hurt at Christmas | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
market. Natalie, you were telling me earlier that your family from | :00:30. | :00:31. | |
Belgium. That's true. The whole Christmas | :00:32. | :00:37. | |
market thing is something that you know a lot about, like a lot of | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
people do, I suppose, in this country. They go over to Europe and | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
go to the markets, but you were telling me earlier that they do have | :00:46. | :00:49. | |
barriers around some of the markets. They did last year, I haven't been | :00:50. | :00:53. | |
over this year yet and I am running out of time, but at the start of | :00:54. | :00:58. | |
this year, when the Christmas markets run into the earlier part of | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
January, that is when I was last over. They have big concrete blocks | :01:03. | :01:13. | |
in the centre of Brugge. It is a very beautiful town centre, and you | :01:14. | :01:15. | |
are not allowed to drive through anyway, but they have put up big | :01:16. | :01:21. | |
concrete blocks. Is that a safety measure? I've to say my cousins, who | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
are young and fearless, were scoffing at the idea that anybody | :01:26. | :01:31. | |
would be fearful of such things in Bruges. I thought, OK, you are young | :01:32. | :01:41. | |
and brave, but it seemed a measure. Perhaps serving a dual function. | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
You can't get a softer target than a Christmas market, can you? | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
Clearly, the eyewitness Emma felt that it was unpredictable, how can | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
you protect against it but perhaps the only we can is with barriers | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
that Natalie was talking about. But your gut feeling is that if they did | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
attack, they would attack somewhere else. It is almost impossible to | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
prevent some sort of attack somewhere. | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
The Guardian reporting that one man is arrested and another man is dead | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
in the Laurie. This was not an accident. -- lorry. Emma saying that | :02:18. | :02:28. | |
there was no way that it could have been accidental, it was travelling | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
in a straight line, it was not veering off in any way, suggesting | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
that the driver had suffered a heart attack or something like that. It | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
was clear to them what was going on. It is hard not to join the dots, | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
because it feels so much like the story of Nice in July, when | :02:46. | :02:51. | |
similarly, for Bastille Day, a truck ploughed into a huge crowd of | :02:52. | :02:57. | |
families. Exactly the same, a soft target. Chris is market attract | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
people with children, so it is difficult not to fill in the gaps | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
and say that it is clearly what it is -- Christmas markets attract. We | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
will have to see what develops and what information the police release | :03:12. | :03:14. | |
over the next few hours, or days and weeks. At the moment, you think back | :03:15. | :03:21. | |
to whenever the Glasgow bin lorry case was and we did the same thing, | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
and of course it was a different story, equally tragic, but | :03:27. | :03:29. | |
differently so. A quote on the front of the | :03:30. | :03:37. | |
Guardian, there seems to be no doubt about what has happened, he says," | :03:38. | :03:45. | |
if you days before Christmas, the message is clear, no matter how, we | :03:46. | :03:49. | |
can pounce at any time". That seems to be the thing. | :03:50. | :04:01. | |
The front page of the i, Islamic State on the back foot in Syria, and | :04:02. | :04:10. | |
in Iraq. Many analysts point out that this is how they are now | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
getting their message out, I suppose, their message of terror. | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
They have been appealing to their followers abroad to do what they can | :04:20. | :04:28. | |
to further their twisted cars. Natalie, Islamic State also saying | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
that trucks are a good thing to use to attack people. While the | :04:32. | :04:37. | |
authorities in Germany are keeping a bit of an open mind on this, clearly | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
with that calling from Islamic State with this happening, with the Nice | :04:44. | :04:46. | |
attack as well, many point their fingers towards some kind of | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
Islamist link. I suppose it is one of those things | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
where we have watched the encroachment of more and more | :04:56. | :05:00. | |
things. Once you could say about unattended baggage, that is | :05:01. | :05:05. | |
something to be afraid of. Now you can see someone with a bag, it does | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
not have to be unattended. There are bag searches to make people feel | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
safer. And it isn't particularly difficult to get hold of a lorry. It | :05:16. | :05:21. | |
isn't difficult to have a license to drive a heavy goods vehicle, it | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
isn't particularly difficult to force somebody else with a licence | :05:26. | :05:37. | |
to let you have the lorry. The question arises, we can't keep | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
fighting the weapon because the weapons ciggy changes. The question | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
is then the target. In that case, what do we do? Do we never go to | :05:44. | :05:54. | |
places? Do we carry on doing what we wanted to do for the rest of the | :05:55. | :06:01. | |
weekend, it is super brave. On the front of the FT, echoes of | :06:02. | :06:10. | |
Nice at a seasonal market. I covered the Nice attack, and there were | :06:11. | :06:13. | |
Brits flying in the day afterwards in solidarity. They specifically | :06:14. | :06:20. | |
said, we're not going to be deterred by this, as Emma was saying earlier, | :06:21. | :06:26. | |
we will not let them win, people flying in specifically the day after | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
to show solidarity. When this happened, everyone's minds, my mind | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
certainly, went that it is Nice again. | :06:36. | :06:55. | |
In the 2005 suicide attacks, you carry on, I certainly did. The | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
conclusion of the French authorities was that the man that carried out | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
the massacre in Nice had been inspired by Islamist propaganda, but | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
they couldn't find any suggestion that Isis had orchestrated the | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
attack. What can be said is that at some point Isis will claim ASBOs | :07:13. | :07:18. | |
ability for Berlin, but they did not necessarily orchestrated, merely | :07:19. | :07:19. | |
that they inspired. In the wake of Nice, the authorities | :07:20. | :07:32. | |
were trying to establish how easy it would be for someone to be able to | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
get their hands on a vehicle large enough to cause maximum damage. | :07:38. | :07:44. | |
Interestingly, the suggestion is that there are some reports say that | :07:45. | :07:51. | |
it was a vehicle that was hijacked. The Guardian is running a live | :07:52. | :07:58. | |
update, a live feed, and Kate Connelly, one of their reporters, | :07:59. | :08:01. | |
had quoted, I think, the owner of the company who owns the truck which | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
is Polish, I think. The quote she had was from the company owner | :08:08. | :08:13. | |
saying that it was his cousin who was in the Laurie and he was certain | :08:14. | :08:27. | |
that he would put his hand in the fire -- in the lorry. It may be | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
incorrect, but it is something that makes perfect sense in this | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
narrative, do we rushed to believe it or ask the right questions? | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
Wouldn't suggest it was true, I would merely say that question has | :08:42. | :08:44. | |
been raised. An attack on a mosque in zero today, | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
also the assassination of the Rossen ambassador to Turkey. -- in zero. | :08:49. | :08:56. | |
Conspiracy theorists might suggest they are linked -- in Zurich. | :08:57. | :09:06. | |
What a dreadful day in terms of terror and Europe this day has been. | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
The suspicion must be that if you are going to carry out an attack | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
like this, there was one in is a wreck as well, the run-up Christmas | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
is a time when people are expecting to be out and about, enjoying | :09:22. | :09:27. | |
themselves, at a Christmas market or another event. That is the time when | :09:28. | :09:33. | |
your motivation is to create terror to the maximum, maybe there is a | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
link with Zurich. There have been previous terror attacks in Germany | :09:41. | :09:46. | |
in recent weeks and months, but not since the summer, but it is now | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
three and six months. Rob and Natalie will be back in 15 | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
minutes time. This is pretty much the only story that most of the | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
papers are running on. Thank you for that. Stay with us much more coming | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
up. Now it is time for the weather. | :10:07. | :10:08. |