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We'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment.

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A lorry attack, on a busy Christmas market in Berlin,

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has killed at least nine people and left dozens injured.

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Members of the public tended to victims, as police urged

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Berliners to stay indoors until the all-clear could be given.

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The authorities are treating it as a deliberate attack.

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It went just past me, past my girlfriend.

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I think it missed me by three metres and missed her by five metres.

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It came into the entrance and hit the sides of the barriers,

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A man who shot dead the Russian ambassador to Turkey has been

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The killer urged the world to remember the Syrian

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He'd been seen in the background as Ambassador Karlov

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Moscow said the murder was an act of terrorism.

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Let's take a look now at tomorrow's papers,

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many of them lead with the events in Berlin.

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With me are the broadcaster, Natalie Haynes, and Rob Merrick,

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deputy political editor at the Independent.

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'Massacre at the Market' is on the Metro front page.

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The story of a fatal lorry crash, in central Berlin dominates

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The Daily Mirror are calling it 'the Berlin Bloodbath'.

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It's leading the Guardian front page,

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which is reporting that nine people have died.

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crashed into shoppers at a speed of 40 miles per hour.

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The i confirm the lorry driver has been arrested,

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and that a passenger on board died at the scene.

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The Times report that the lorry belonged

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the Daily Mail front page, showing the smashed windscreen

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of the lorry covered in Christmas decorations.

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We will start with the times. Christmas carnage in Berlin. Lorry

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ploughed into market crowds, at least nine confirmed dead. Terror

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attack suspected. This has been hallmarks of what we saw on Bastille

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Day earlier this year. That was in Nice, in the south of France. The

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story you have been talking about all evening, of course. It does not

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seem to be any doubt it was a terrorist attack. We wait for the

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inevitable claim of responsibility from Islamic State. I'm sure that

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will come whether they orchestrated the attack or not. A couple of

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striking beings in the Times coverage. -- things. The suspicion

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is that the truck was hijacked. It belonged to a polished delivery

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company. Contact with the driver was lost at four PM some time before the

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incident, leading to speculation that it had been hijacked -- them

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out. There was a quote that the driver wore a mask. As he ran off,

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he tore off his mask, which we had not seen before. That is quite

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interesting. If it is linked to Islamic State, and the indication

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perhaps with the comparisons to Nice is that there may be the case, if

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terrorism is proved to be responsible for this, actually

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trying to disappear into the crowd is something that did not happen in

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Nice. It may well have been because this man actually died in the front

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of the scab, but having said that, so many Islamic State volunteers

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have no problem in giving up their lives for their cause -- cab. That

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is true. All we can assume is that this man for whatever reason,

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whether his ideology or pragmatism preferred to try to make a run for

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it, but obviously without success. There are two people we think were

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in the cab of the track, and one of them was dead. There are various

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sources saying it looks like it was a cause of the accident rather than

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the police shooting through the cab window, for example. Obviously the

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other men tried to make a run for it but was unsuccessful. He was

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captured quite close to be seen, and one assumes the information he gives

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the police will help their inquiries. The Guardian front page,

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nine dead in building truck horror. Dozens hurt in accident. This was

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not an accident, say witnesses. One arrested and another dead in the

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lorry. Many Christmas markets in Germany. This is one of the biggest.

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They have them all over northern Europe. The French say they will now

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have tightened security and will increase the security presence at

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their markets. I am wondering why there was no security at this market

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given how big it is, and also given the history of violence and terror

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attacks they have been in Germany in the last year. That is sure to be a

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focus of the inquiry that will follow. There are about 60 in

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Berlin, 60 Christmas markets. I read some of them do have security and

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protection and bollards, which is bound to increase the focus on the

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fact that this one in such essential and large place didn't. But it

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boasts about its openness and that is part of the attraction, that you

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won't have to get through any security. It won't look like or make

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you think of the risk of a terror attack. You will enjoy it more if it

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is apparently friendly. But whether that can continue after tonight's

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events must be a question. The softest of targets, people simply

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enjoying themselves and not necessarily looking out for the

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possibility of certainly this kind of attack. Just coming completely

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out of the blue. Christmas markets, your family are in Belgium. You like

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Christmas market and go to them? Is this the kind of thing that would

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put them off. I am afraid of cards anyway, which I don't think I have

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told you. I am incredibly afraid of crowded places, which is why I don't

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travel on the tube. I live my life alone, but I am already nervous

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about all of those things. Your family in Bojan? They are more

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mature in every regard than I am, even the ones younger than me --

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Belgium. When I go there, I will go to a small Christmas market in

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Bruges. I would struggle to go to the big one in Brussels. That would

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be too many people, too much humans in a small place for my taste. The

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front page of the Financial Times, truck driven into Christmas crowd

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kills at least nine in Berlin. 50 have been injured. There is every

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possibility this death toll could rise. It makes the comparison on the

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front page, echoes of Nice ad sizzled market. One analyst was

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suggesting to me the German security services, much smaller than in

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Britain, and less able to pick up the little chatter the security

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services might be able to pick up in this country -- in Christmas market.

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And not as integrated as some of the others. I do not know about that.

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There was a quote a few months ago from one of the terrorists in the

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Belgian attack last year, who apparently said there would not come

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to Britain because they believed the British security services and in

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with intelligence was better, which may be of some small comfort to us

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tonight. I could not speak about this situation in Germany. Looking

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at the FT, what it does say is that Isis may not have orchestrated the

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attack, even if they inspired the person who carried it out. But they

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make the point that security officials have long warned that Isis

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could smuggle operatives into Germany under the cover of the 1

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million refugees who have poured into the country since the start of

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2015. It is the third terror attack in Germany in a short while, and

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there is bound to be a political fallout from this, certainly if

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other terror attacks follow. Angela Merkel took a heavy kit for her

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opendoor policy towards refugees. It was unpopular with some citizens.

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She announced she would run for re-election next year -- heavy

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hitter. One of their fees may be that there will be further attacks

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that will damage her enter Canada -- fears. She is seemingly moving away

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from the opendoor policy -- and her candidature. She's talking about

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burning tobacco. There are fears her policy could have contributed to the

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security situation worsening in Germany but also clearly worried she

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will be kicked out of power. I'm sure that is how it will be

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presented during the election campaign. I don't see how anyone

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running against it would resist the temptation to say she was somehow

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responsible for anything that has gone wrong in Germany in the last

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four years. We will see if this episode has not been politicised by

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that. I'm sure it will be during that campaign. I don't see how we

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can not be. Massacre at the market, the front page of the Metro. Laurie

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mows down at least nine Christmas shoppers. And the front page as

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well, Russia's ambassador to Turkey has been shot, assassinated --

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lorry. It looks on this front page as if the men in the suit would the

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gun is somehow linked to the headline, but he is not. -- men in

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the seat with the gun. He is linked to the attack in Ankara. Or are they

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somehow linking the two and it is just a messy front-page? It could be

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seen as confusing. They are probably right to bring together the two

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stories because they are imported. When I left the office tonight, I

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imagined we would be spending most of our time talking about the

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assassination of the Russian ambassador, but it has been

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overshadowed by what happened in Berlin. But it is probably right to

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reflect both stories, because the assassination itself is a striking

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event. It is perhaps not going to have the repercussions people

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probably feared, because there are strong ties between Turkey and

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Russia at the moment, but it looks like it was a lone person and no

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reason to think it will lead to some sort of conflict between Russia and

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Turkey. But a very significant story as well. Naturally, the problem is

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you just can't... Unless you shut these markets down and have armed

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security 24 hours a day around potentially soft targets, it only

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takes one terrorist or one person intent on killing to get through all

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of the security that any state may have. Yes, and you only have to

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think how absolutely hateful it is to travel through an airport to know

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the consequences of trying to make everything safe sometimes are so an

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arrest that they actually destroy the pleasure in the thing you are

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trying to do. So most of us put up with airport security because we

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really want to get to the place we want to get to. But would you go to

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a German market if you had to have your bags searched and if you had to

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park two miles away and walk because it was concreted off at every stage?

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The answer is probably lots of people would not. You have had

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interviews with an eyewitness earlier this evening who said having

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just been in this terrifying experience, she said they planned to

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spend the rest of their weekend doing what they were going to do in

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Berlin and staying there. Not everybody feels like that, of

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course. Some people's anxiety is too great and they are put off, but

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traditionally, in Europe, we have tried to create terrorist atrocities

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with stoicism and courage, right back to when I was a small child,

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not even able to walk, I think, when the IRA bombed near where I grew up.

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I only ever remember Birmingham being stoic about it. I am certain

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that Belgian has been stoic and I would be astonished if Berlin was

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not. Donald Trump, President-elect. He put out a statement. This is the

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official statement. Our hearts and prayers are with the loved ones of

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the victims in today's attack in Berlin. Innocent civilians were

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murdered in the street as they prepare to celebrate Christmas. It's

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a state and other terrorists continue to slaughter Christians in

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the community and places of worship as part of their global jihad. These

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terrorists and their worldwide networks must be eradicated. He said

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that on Twitter. That was the official statement. He then goes on

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Twitter and says the attacks in Germany, Turkey and Switzerland, so

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he has put the three together, show the civilised world must change

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thinking. What does he mean by that, do you think? I can't claim to peer

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into the soul of... The best guess is wrong. The statement itself is

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extraordinary. The President-elect coming out immediately, it is OK for

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us to speculate, but we don't know. There is no proof. Normally elected

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politicians would not lead to the nearest microphone and scream

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certainty where none exists. But most politicians are not Donald

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Trump. The second part of the tweets... Who knows? The official

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statement is quite alarming. He has already construed it as a

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specifically religious conflict, and I would feel presumptuous suggesting

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everybody in a marketplace in Berlin was Christian, would you? There have

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been many and will be more terrorist attacks in coming years and

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unfortunately Donald Trump will no doubt react in a similarly worrying

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ways. In the Sun, Slain, this is the other tack today, there have been

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three, one in Switzerland, Germany and this, terror at Christmas,

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Putin's man executed just hours later, this is after truck bomb,

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nine die in market truck attack, umm, so, Natalie, the Sun and the

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other papers putting these stories together, evidential in not

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necessarily linked, and want expert I spoke with set, look, do not

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discount the power of coincidence, it could simply be confidence, but

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this man shouting Allah before he publicly shoots the Ambassador from

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Russia -- Allahu Akbar. The papers haven't run with this today because

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they have gone with him and with Germany. If ever there was an

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example needed of how ordinary, innocent victims, especially those

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in Aleppo, there you go. . He was an official policeman who used his

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identity badge to get into the gallery. And while perhaps the aim,

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given what he was shouting, was to try and distance Turkey from Russia

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and Russian attacks in Syria, ironically it could bring the

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countries closer together in terms of cooperation. You can see that,

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can't you, strongman turning against the west and peace and president

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Erdogan will seize on this to unite against terror. They have the

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tension when Turkey shot down the Russian airliner and they came

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together closer after that, so there is no reason to think this incident

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would disturb the relationship I think. It is striking that the Sun

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has gone with the assassin, rather than what happened in Germany, which

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is closer to home and affected many people, and this appears to be a

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terror at, as we said, and would resonate stronger with British

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readers, but this picture is, it is just extraordinary, isn't it,

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holding the gun, pointing it in the air, and it is quite incredible to

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capture that moment. Indeed. What a day it has been, pretty horrible,

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but it has been good to have you both into the studio. Thank you

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both. That is it for The Papers. Coming up now, it is time for

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