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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
With me are Miranda Green from the FT and Christopher Hope, | :00:18. | :00:22. | |
who's chief political correspondent at the Daily Telegraph. | :00:23. | :00:26. | |
Good to see you both. Hello. Wait until you have finished the papers. | :00:27. | :00:35. | |
You will not be saying that when I am finished with you, mate! | :00:36. | :00:39. | |
The Daily Mirror has the banner headline, | :00:40. | :00:40. | |
It quotes a source in the German police as saying the killer | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
The Telegraph says there's a manhunt in Berlin and across Europe | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
after the police admitted they'd arrested the wrong man. | :00:49. | :00:50. | |
The Times leads on the manhunt for the killer too. | :00:51. | :00:53. | |
It says the attack was the worst terrorist attack | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
The Metro recounts the death of the lorry's legitimate driver, | :00:56. | :01:04. | |
as he fought to try to stop the hijacker from | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
The i says Europe is on a Christmas terror alert. | :01:08. | :01:22. | |
It says British lorry drivers have been ordered to keep their cabs | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
The Mail says "so much for peace on earth", | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
as armed police guard the nativity scene at Canterbury Cathedral. | :01:29. | :01:30. | |
The Express leads on a different story. | :01:31. | :01:32. | |
It says Theresa May has refused to guarantee a vote in Parliament | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
on the terms of Britain's exit from the European Union. | :01:36. | :01:37. | |
The paper says MPs won't be able to block Brexit. | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
I suspect the living men and women might have a different view of that, | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
the members of the Supreme Court, that is. OK, the Daily Telegraph. | :01:47. | :01:52. | |
This is the top story, obviously. Berlin manhunt as killer escapes, | :01:53. | :01:59. | |
and the picture of Angela Merkel, Miranda, a single flower, paying her | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
respects to the dead. That picture I suppose symbolising the weight of | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
responsibility that she bears in her own mind, not just carrying this | :02:07. | :02:14. | |
country at this time of such horrible tragedy, but also | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
potentially for her policies and what some people are suggesting is | :02:19. | :02:22. | |
her contribution to what may have happened? So that is right, and very | :02:23. | :02:32. | |
striking image of a very stricken leader of a nation, trying to come | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
to terms with another horrible terrorist attack in Germany, because | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
of course over the summer there were terrorist attacks in Germany as | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
well. But they did not claim lives. This was the first... That is right, | :02:44. | :02:51. | |
but it is very distressing. Two news developments today, both of which | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
features largely in the Telegraph splash. Firstly, it is claiming | :02:57. | :02:58. | |
responsibility for the attack. Today. And also the awful revelation | :02:59. | :03:04. | |
that the Berlin police seem to have arrested the wrong man, who they | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
have released, and the killer is still at large. So there are fears | :03:09. | :03:12. | |
there might be the attacks. But you're absolutely right. This focus | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
on the individual stricken face of Angela Merkel, leader of the German | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
government, is because they did think the man they had arrested, who | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
they thought was responsible, was a refugee. He doesn't turn out to have | :03:27. | :03:30. | |
been responsible for the attack but Merkel is under enormous pressure | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
because of her policy of letting so many refugees from North Africa and | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
the Middle East into Germany. A policy which she had to slightly | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
reversed, but she is under attack, not only from political opponents on | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
the right, but she is also under attack even from within her own | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
governing coalition, and she faces a General Election next year. Yes, | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
Christopher, if it does turn out not to have been a refugee responsible | :03:55. | :04:02. | |
for this atrocity, some other faction or whatever, although | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
Islamic State have claimed responsibility, does that take the | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
pressure off? It does, and it is clear whether this photograph was | :04:09. | :04:14. | |
taken after or before that, when it was discovered this guy was not the | :04:15. | :04:17. | |
actual driver, but the weight of it is written on her face there. Yes, | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
we will have to wait and see how it plays out, but, you know, she cannot | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
be held responsible for a million people and all the things they do | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
and there are criminals in every group... Nigel Farage thinks that | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
she can. Yes, but the guy arrested was the wrong person, so that take | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
something out of it in the short-term, but does not get away | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
from an appalling story of loss of life in Berlin. Moving on to the i. | :04:45. | :04:53. | |
Christmas terror... Christopher, yes, the ramifications for the whole | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
of the continent now, particularly as this guy, one or two men, however | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
many were involved, have now got away? It is interesting how the | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
papers have treated the same story in different ways. The Telegraph | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
using the manhunt, the dramatic thing, who is the guy who did it? | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
The i going into moreover... Not as many words in the front, but making | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
it into a British shopping seem to make it a British story. Interesting | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
top line, about British lorry drivers ordered to keep their cabs | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
locked at all times. Not quite clear whether this is in Britain or on the | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
continent but either way, the world that we grew up in, didn't we, in | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
the 1980s, every car could be a bomb? Now if any lorry... Every | :05:39. | :05:45. | |
lorry seen as a potential murderous missile, inching out these new | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
enemies everywhere now. I think that is absolutely right. The horrendous | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
attack in Nice on the seafront earlier this year, that of course | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
was a lorry which had been hijacked then rammed into the crowd. So it | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
seems this is now one of the sort of array of techniques that terrorists | :06:04. | :06:10. | |
will use, and it is very difficult to control, you know. In Nice, that | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
is what we were all saying at the time. How can you control for which | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
lorries on the road might be about to run a mock and drive straight | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
through a crowd? It is incredibly difficult. Not just trucks. Islamic | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
State have to go through their propaganda arm, soldiers of the | :06:31. | :06:33. | |
caliphate, you true believers, do whatever you can to kill the | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
infidel, use a knife, storms, push them over a cliff, rocks, use | :06:39. | :06:44. | |
vehicles, do anything you can -- a knife, stones. It makes it | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
incredibly difficult... To defend against, yes. And this security | :06:50. | :06:52. | |
angle which I think all the papers will do more of this week, we, I | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
think, here in the UK, because we have that whole generation where we | :06:59. | :07:04. | |
were so used to the threat of IRA terrorism, we feel our security | :07:05. | :07:06. | |
forces here are excellent, which of course they are, but the sort of | :07:07. | :07:14. | |
phenomenon, Lone Wolf attacks, then claimed by Isis, soldiers of the | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
caliphate, as you say, that is much more difficult to deal with than a | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
terrorist organisation like the IRA structured like an army with a line | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
of command and clear political objectives. This is totally | :07:25. | :07:30. | |
different. Some people might disagree, but there were boundaries, | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
particularly in their struggle as well. Yes, there were. Warnings and | :07:34. | :07:42. | |
all the rest of it. The third bullet point, SES unit on stand-by, which | :07:43. | :07:48. | |
of course, writing a different story... The SAS on stand-by by its | :07:49. | :07:58. | |
nature -- SAS unit on stand-by. Yes, that is what it is for. Indeed. Any | :07:59. | :08:04. | |
eventuality. OK, inside page of the Express. Which is Angela Merkel... I | :08:05. | :08:12. | |
am being told we have lost the Express and we're going to go to the | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
Times. The first picture of one of the victims. 12 people died, | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
Miranda. This am a human face to this tragedy. That is right. -- this | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
is a human face to the tragedy. When some kind of terrorist out bridge -- | :08:28. | :08:33. | |
over it like this happens, we get this in the news, what do we know? | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
Then in the next 24 hours details emerge of the casualties are. 12 | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
people died, we think, but it could be more. There are still 14 people | :08:42. | :08:46. | |
in a very bad state in hospital, so the death toll could rise even now, | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
which is worrying to think about. But, yes, the Times has gone back on | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
the first available photograph of one of the victims of the attack. An | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
Italian young woman who is feared to be dead. It has not been confirmed | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
but her phone was found at the scene. They are taking a bit of a | :09:05. | :09:09. | |
risk in journalistic terms. Yes, they are. They are trying to sell | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
tomorrow morning's news today, not easy in this era of news. They are | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
thinking correctly photographeds will emerge tomorrow. By tomorrow | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
night, there will probably be 12 passport sized pictures of people | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
killed on the front page. They're trying to get ahead of the game and | :09:27. | :09:29. | |
they have taken a risk there, because it may have been phone. How | :09:30. | :09:36. | |
that says it... But I am sure they have made other checks to make sure | :09:37. | :09:39. | |
it is OK to take the risk on the front page. Also have slightly | :09:40. | :09:44. | |
different quotes in the Times story, which is interesting. A quote from | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
Angela Merkel speaking about how Germany would not want to let go of | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
what she calls the life we want to live in Germany, free, together and | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
open. This is the other thing, you know. It is how far do you go in | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
controlling a society and securing everything? Then they have won. | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
Again, that is the conversation we used to have in the 1980s when the | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
IRA were very active, this idea that you need to carry on with your life | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
in a free society otherwise you are handing victory to the terrorists. | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
Angela Merkel is making that point. Sure, I covered the Nice attacks, | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
and people were flying in. I said this before. People were flying in | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
the day afterwards to show solidarity, despite the atrocity, | :10:28. | :10:34. | |
and the still palpable fear some people had that something might | :10:35. | :10:37. | |
happen, yet people coming to show solidarity. The idea being that you | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
do not let the terrorists win. OK, that is enough on Berlin. We will | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
move onto the Express. My MPs will not be able to block Brexit, | :10:47. | :10:54. | |
Christopher. -- why MPs. Is that a correct headline? Wishful thinking | :10:55. | :10:56. | |
for the pro Minister. Theresa May was the senior -- with the senior | :10:57. | :11:04. | |
German of all the select committees today who called the Liaison | :11:05. | :11:11. | |
Committee. A big day for. Some of the skills David Cameron had, she is | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
developing those, as she developed into the role of premised. What she | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
said there was, to these MPs come on this committee, that they will not | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
be able to block Brexit. That is the position at the moment but of course | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
the Supreme Court, as you alluded to at the gaming, the hearing the case, | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
and if actually they prescribed, yes, there could be a vote, and the | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
House of Lords foot. She is having a go Nowell she can. Was quite | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
interesting this afternoon, though, because Theresa May has become sort | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
of mistress of the sex act, trying to let go of as little information | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
about Brexit as she possibly can. -- mistress of the sphinx act. That | :11:53. | :12:02. | |
phrase, "Negotiation is negotiation," a whole new | :12:03. | :12:07. | |
meaningless phrase can play with... What does it mean? Nothing. That the | :12:08. | :12:14. | |
end of the session with all these MPs the chairman rather ruefully | :12:15. | :12:17. | |
thanked him for an interesting session, and she gave him a rather | :12:18. | :12:20. | |
strange smile to say she was quite proud of herself for making it | :12:21. | :12:26. | |
little interest as she could. David Davis, much more forthcoming? He | :12:27. | :12:32. | |
basically says the most words without saying anything... | :12:33. | :12:35. | |
LAUGHTER You does that all the time, but he | :12:36. | :12:42. | |
has his brief. Say nothing! Yes, walk the walk, talk the talk, but | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
don't do anything. But he does occasionally let something out, | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
David Davis, which... And he is not slapped down by number ten Downing | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
St in the same manner as other ministers when he does so. Given | :12:56. | :13:01. | |
more leeway to test the ground with, I think, perhaps. Finally onto the | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
Telegraph. I saw you come into the office tonight with a whole load of | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
shopping bags, clearly prepped for Christmas. The story here is chaos | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
in store for online shoppers over earlier Christmas deadlines. It is | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
all but the shopping on the Internet. Of course because of rules | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
about when shops will be open, they cannot be open on Christmas Day. | :13:24. | :13:26. | |
They are on Boxing Day but know we all go online in this country, more | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
than most countries, Christmas Day is now a shopping base, so that is | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
what they are saying. Will there be a panic as they try -- is now a | :13:34. | :13:40. | |
shopping day. A classic kind of before it happens story, I think. I | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
think it is cold classic skier panic story. Honestly, as if people in the | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
run-up to Christmas need to be sent into a panic about getting their | :13:52. | :13:57. | |
shopping done in time -- scare panic story. We're all in a total panic | :13:58. | :14:04. | |
already. Disk and body lifted by a department store, as our man, | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
literally had never -- I had literally never seen a man as | :14:10. | :14:19. | |
discombobulated in a department store as tonight, following over | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
things and so on. Have you done all your shopping? The problem is I | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
started such a long time ago there are so many mystery packages and I | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
have no idea what is in them so I don't know if I am giving the right | :14:31. | :14:33. | |
things to the right people. I have just bought a lot of stuff! | :14:34. | :14:36. | |
LAUGHTER All right, you guys will be back in | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
about 15 minutes, with some more stories behind the headlines. Many | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
thanks for that. Do not forget all the papers and front pages will be | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
online on the BBC News website where you can read detailed review of all | :14:50. | :14:52. | |
of them. That is there for you seven days a week. | :14:53. | :15:02. | |
Fair and you can see us there as well. Thank you to Miranda and | :15:03. | :15:08. | |
Christopher and to all of you for watching. -- bbc.co.uk/papers, and | :15:09. | :15:12. | |
you can see us there as well. Heavy weather on the way. Batten | :15:13. | :15:22. | |
down the hatches. The wind is set to be the feature of the weather in the | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
run-up to Christmas. It could be very | :15:28. | :15:28. |