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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are Miranda Green from the FT and Christopher Hope,

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who's chief political correspondent at the Daily Telegraph.

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Good to see you both. Hello. Wait until you have finished the papers.

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You will not be saying that when I am finished with you, mate!

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The Daily Mirror has the banner headline,

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It quotes a source in the German police as saying the killer

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The Telegraph says there's a manhunt in Berlin and across Europe

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after the police admitted they'd arrested the wrong man.

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The Times leads on the manhunt for the killer too.

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It says the attack was the worst terrorist attack

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The Metro recounts the death of the lorry's legitimate driver,

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as he fought to try to stop the hijacker from

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The i says Europe is on a Christmas terror alert.

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It says British lorry drivers have been ordered to keep their cabs

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The Mail says "so much for peace on earth",

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as armed police guard the nativity scene at Canterbury Cathedral.

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The Express leads on a different story.

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It says Theresa May has refused to guarantee a vote in Parliament

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on the terms of Britain's exit from the European Union.

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The paper says MPs won't be able to block Brexit.

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I suspect the living men and women might have a different view of that,

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the members of the Supreme Court, that is. OK, the Daily Telegraph.

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This is the top story, obviously. Berlin manhunt as killer escapes,

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and the picture of Angela Merkel, Miranda, a single flower, paying her

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respects to the dead. That picture I suppose symbolising the weight of

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responsibility that she bears in her own mind, not just carrying this

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country at this time of such horrible tragedy, but also

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potentially for her policies and what some people are suggesting is

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her contribution to what may have happened? So that is right, and very

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striking image of a very stricken leader of a nation, trying to come

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to terms with another horrible terrorist attack in Germany, because

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of course over the summer there were terrorist attacks in Germany as

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well. But they did not claim lives. This was the first... That is right,

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but it is very distressing. Two news developments today, both of which

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features largely in the Telegraph splash. Firstly, it is claiming

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responsibility for the attack. Today. And also the awful revelation

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that the Berlin police seem to have arrested the wrong man, who they

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have released, and the killer is still at large. So there are fears

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there might be the attacks. But you're absolutely right. This focus

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on the individual stricken face of Angela Merkel, leader of the German

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government, is because they did think the man they had arrested, who

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they thought was responsible, was a refugee. He doesn't turn out to have

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been responsible for the attack but Merkel is under enormous pressure

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because of her policy of letting so many refugees from North Africa and

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the Middle East into Germany. A policy which she had to slightly

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reversed, but she is under attack, not only from political opponents on

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the right, but she is also under attack even from within her own

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governing coalition, and she faces a General Election next year. Yes,

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Christopher, if it does turn out not to have been a refugee responsible

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for this atrocity, some other faction or whatever, although

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Islamic State have claimed responsibility, does that take the

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pressure off? It does, and it is clear whether this photograph was

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taken after or before that, when it was discovered this guy was not the

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actual driver, but the weight of it is written on her face there. Yes,

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we will have to wait and see how it plays out, but, you know, she cannot

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be held responsible for a million people and all the things they do

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and there are criminals in every group... Nigel Farage thinks that

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she can. Yes, but the guy arrested was the wrong person, so that take

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something out of it in the short-term, but does not get away

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from an appalling story of loss of life in Berlin. Moving on to the i.

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Christmas terror... Christopher, yes, the ramifications for the whole

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of the continent now, particularly as this guy, one or two men, however

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many were involved, have now got away? It is interesting how the

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papers have treated the same story in different ways. The Telegraph

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using the manhunt, the dramatic thing, who is the guy who did it?

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The i going into moreover... Not as many words in the front, but making

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it into a British shopping seem to make it a British story. Interesting

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top line, about British lorry drivers ordered to keep their cabs

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locked at all times. Not quite clear whether this is in Britain or on the

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continent but either way, the world that we grew up in, didn't we, in

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the 1980s, every car could be a bomb? Now if any lorry... Every

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lorry seen as a potential murderous missile, inching out these new

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enemies everywhere now. I think that is absolutely right. The horrendous

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attack in Nice on the seafront earlier this year, that of course

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was a lorry which had been hijacked then rammed into the crowd. So it

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seems this is now one of the sort of array of techniques that terrorists

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will use, and it is very difficult to control, you know. In Nice, that

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is what we were all saying at the time. How can you control for which

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lorries on the road might be about to run a mock and drive straight

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through a crowd? It is incredibly difficult. Not just trucks. Islamic

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State have to go through their propaganda arm, soldiers of the

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caliphate, you true believers, do whatever you can to kill the

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infidel, use a knife, storms, push them over a cliff, rocks, use

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vehicles, do anything you can -- a knife, stones. It makes it

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incredibly difficult... To defend against, yes. And this security

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angle which I think all the papers will do more of this week, we, I

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think, here in the UK, because we have that whole generation where we

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were so used to the threat of IRA terrorism, we feel our security

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forces here are excellent, which of course they are, but the sort of

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phenomenon, Lone Wolf attacks, then claimed by Isis, soldiers of the

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caliphate, as you say, that is much more difficult to deal with than a

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terrorist organisation like the IRA structured like an army with a line

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of command and clear political objectives. This is totally

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different. Some people might disagree, but there were boundaries,

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particularly in their struggle as well. Yes, there were. Warnings and

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all the rest of it. The third bullet point, SES unit on stand-by, which

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of course, writing a different story... The SAS on stand-by by its

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nature -- SAS unit on stand-by. Yes, that is what it is for. Indeed. Any

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eventuality. OK, inside page of the Express. Which is Angela Merkel... I

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am being told we have lost the Express and we're going to go to the

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Times. The first picture of one of the victims. 12 people died,

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Miranda. This am a human face to this tragedy. That is right. -- this

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is a human face to the tragedy. When some kind of terrorist out bridge --

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over it like this happens, we get this in the news, what do we know?

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Then in the next 24 hours details emerge of the casualties are. 12

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people died, we think, but it could be more. There are still 14 people

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in a very bad state in hospital, so the death toll could rise even now,

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which is worrying to think about. But, yes, the Times has gone back on

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the first available photograph of one of the victims of the attack. An

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Italian young woman who is feared to be dead. It has not been confirmed

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but her phone was found at the scene. They are taking a bit of a

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risk in journalistic terms. Yes, they are. They are trying to sell

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tomorrow morning's news today, not easy in this era of news. They are

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thinking correctly photographeds will emerge tomorrow. By tomorrow

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night, there will probably be 12 passport sized pictures of people

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killed on the front page. They're trying to get ahead of the game and

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they have taken a risk there, because it may have been phone. How

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that says it... But I am sure they have made other checks to make sure

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it is OK to take the risk on the front page. Also have slightly

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different quotes in the Times story, which is interesting. A quote from

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Angela Merkel speaking about how Germany would not want to let go of

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what she calls the life we want to live in Germany, free, together and

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open. This is the other thing, you know. It is how far do you go in

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controlling a society and securing everything? Then they have won.

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Again, that is the conversation we used to have in the 1980s when the

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IRA were very active, this idea that you need to carry on with your life

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in a free society otherwise you are handing victory to the terrorists.

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Angela Merkel is making that point. Sure, I covered the Nice attacks,

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and people were flying in. I said this before. People were flying in

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the day afterwards to show solidarity, despite the atrocity,

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and the still palpable fear some people had that something might

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happen, yet people coming to show solidarity. The idea being that you

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do not let the terrorists win. OK, that is enough on Berlin. We will

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move onto the Express. My MPs will not be able to block Brexit,

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Christopher. -- why MPs. Is that a correct headline? Wishful thinking

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for the pro Minister. Theresa May was the senior -- with the senior

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German of all the select committees today who called the Liaison

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Committee. A big day for. Some of the skills David Cameron had, she is

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developing those, as she developed into the role of premised. What she

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said there was, to these MPs come on this committee, that they will not

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be able to block Brexit. That is the position at the moment but of course

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the Supreme Court, as you alluded to at the gaming, the hearing the case,

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and if actually they prescribed, yes, there could be a vote, and the

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House of Lords foot. She is having a go Nowell she can. Was quite

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interesting this afternoon, though, because Theresa May has become sort

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of mistress of the sex act, trying to let go of as little information

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about Brexit as she possibly can. -- mistress of the sphinx act. That

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phrase, "Negotiation is negotiation," a whole new

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meaningless phrase can play with... What does it mean? Nothing. That the

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end of the session with all these MPs the chairman rather ruefully

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thanked him for an interesting session, and she gave him a rather

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strange smile to say she was quite proud of herself for making it

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little interest as she could. David Davis, much more forthcoming? He

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basically says the most words without saying anything...

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LAUGHTER You does that all the time, but he

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has his brief. Say nothing! Yes, walk the walk, talk the talk, but

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don't do anything. But he does occasionally let something out,

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David Davis, which... And he is not slapped down by number ten Downing

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St in the same manner as other ministers when he does so. Given

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more leeway to test the ground with, I think, perhaps. Finally onto the

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Telegraph. I saw you come into the office tonight with a whole load of

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shopping bags, clearly prepped for Christmas. The story here is chaos

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in store for online shoppers over earlier Christmas deadlines. It is

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all but the shopping on the Internet. Of course because of rules

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about when shops will be open, they cannot be open on Christmas Day.

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They are on Boxing Day but know we all go online in this country, more

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than most countries, Christmas Day is now a shopping base, so that is

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what they are saying. Will there be a panic as they try -- is now a

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shopping day. A classic kind of before it happens story, I think. I

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think it is cold classic skier panic story. Honestly, as if people in the

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run-up to Christmas need to be sent into a panic about getting their

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shopping done in time -- scare panic story. We're all in a total panic

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already. Disk and body lifted by a department store, as our man,

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literally had never -- I had literally never seen a man as

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discombobulated in a department store as tonight, following over

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things and so on. Have you done all your shopping? The problem is I

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started such a long time ago there are so many mystery packages and I

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have no idea what is in them so I don't know if I am giving the right

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things to the right people. I have just bought a lot of stuff!

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LAUGHTER All right, you guys will be back in

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about 15 minutes, with some more stories behind the headlines. Many

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thanks for that. Do not forget all the papers and front pages will be

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online on the BBC News website where you can read detailed review of all

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of them. That is there for you seven days a week.

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Fair and you can see us there as well. Thank you to Miranda and

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Christopher and to all of you for watching. -- bbc.co.uk/papers, and

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you can see us there as well. Heavy weather on the way. Batten

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down the hatches. The wind is set to be the feature of the weather in the

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run-up to Christmas. It could be very

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