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as well, as Worcester drained 16 three-pointers.


That is all from us for now. Coming up, The Papers. The sport was a


little short tonight, but not to worry.


Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be


With me are the business academic, Melanie Eusebe and Katie Martin


Tomorrow's front pages...


Welcome back, 2017. Glad you have not abandoned us. Let's have a look


at the front pages. The Financial Times says London faces at triple


whammy of transport strike action next week, after union discussions


broke down with underground staff set to walk out for 24 hours on


Sunday night. It comes amid industrial action on Southern rail


and British Airways. The Mail looks at the amount


of foreign aid paid out to some projects by the UK,


and a decision to pull funding aimed at empowering women and girls around


the world. The Times claims Theresa May has


been warned by a major Conservative Party donor that he'll


withdraw financial support if she pulls Britain out


of the EU's single market. The Telegraph looks at winter


pressure on the NHS, claiming to have seen a memo


from health bosses encouraging hospitals not to use terms


such as "black alert". The i also looks at demand on A -


saying hospitals are turning away And the Express says US scientists


have claimed that taking an hour-long nap after lunch is good


for your health. And the Sun reporting on Prince


Harry's first holiday together with his girlfriend Meghan Markle. They


have been to see the Northern lights in Norway.


Right, a leaked memo telling NHS officials not to speak about "Black


alert". Every year we speak about the increased demand on NHS


departments and this year is no different, but is it any worse? I am


not sure but I think in the area of high taxation and the health service


being one of the best locations for high taxation in the UK, we have a


right to be concerned. 42 times in one week in the lead up to


Christmas, when we do know this, and every year it is the same thing. The


weather is cold which means we need to take care of ourselves a little


more and people will be at the hospital more, so if it has been


happening all of this time, why have we not fixed it yet? Or if it has


not happened to this extent, then why is it happening to this extent


this year? Either way there is a problem. And of course what does


change over time, this ageing population, more people likely to


need care all year round, but particularly in the winter? Yes, no


getting around the fact people get ill overwinter, but it does sound


like this is worse than usual. Speaking about, as Melanie was just


saying, record numbers of people in ambulances turned away from hospital


as they do not have resources to help them. In record-breaking


territory, that does not sound good. One of the interesting elements of


the story in the Telegraph is they are speaking about trying to


encourage hospitals not to talk about this in overly alarming terms,


not to speak about, what do they cold, black alerts? The Guardian


speaking about how the Red Cross is saying the NHS needs to take action


to make sure we are taking better care of people. Terms like Red Cross


and black alert in relation to the NHS, not a good look. In addition,


some of the stories, looking at individual stories, lying underneath


this around deaths that have happened in


hospital corridors, it makes for very grim reading. Let's look at the


Guardian, though, because you mentioned the Red Cross.


Humanitarian crisis in the NHS, says the Red Cross. Doctors told off and


told a patient misery following death in corridors, and there are of


course individual stories which are desperately sad, and concerning. I


cannot remember a time when the NHS was described in that way by the Red


Cross, has it? No, I think there have been conversations before


regarding a crisis in the NHS, however the Red Cross commenting on


it as if... We do not expect that, the Red Cross to be commenting on


NHS services here in the UK. We expect them to be doing humanitarian


crises, but it feels like this is entirely almost preventable, and so


that is why, you know, when you think of the Red Cross, you sick of


hurricanes, tornadoes, natural disasters, you do not think of the


NHS needing support or comment -- you think of. Someone quoted here is


president of the society for acute medicine who speaks about why it is


particularly in that sort of penultimate paragraph, why the NHS


is really in such dire straits now? Yes, it certainly seems to be a


simple resources question. It is not like we are in the grips of some


kind of academic of any kind, this is a standard winter -- epidemic of


any kind. He is saying we have third World levels of staffing and beds in


what is supposed to be a first world country. The two just do not match.


No, and it speaks about people who died because they were on trolleys.


One person had a heart attack and another had an aneurysm and then


could not be saved. Let's move on and look at another story. To do


with Donald Trump this time. It is still on the Guardian. The hacker


accused of interfering in the US election. This is a picture of a


woman who is reckoned to be a very skilled Russian hacker. It speaks a


little bit about her and when she -- where she spends her time, working


for companies trying to find vulnerabilities in their systems and


she thinks this story has been completely overblown. I found her


comments interesting. She denied having knowingly worked for the


Russian government, it says here. LAUGHTER


That is different to not having ever worked for the Russian government.


It sounds like she is very good at what she does, very good at picking


out vulnerabilities, useful for a commercial point of view, but it


says she is guilty of helping Vladimir Putin to interfere in the


US election, according to the White House. The company has been


sanctioned and she is not very happy about it. But clearly this Russian


hacking story, you know, it is doing the opposite of dying down. Every


day this story escalates and appears to get worse. Something has just


dropped an AP, actually, the intelligence agencies saying


Vladimir Putin used a hidden campaign to influence the US


presidential election in favour of Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton.


Of course Donald Trump has said today it did not effect the outcome


of the election and he is now, it seems, accepting from the 17


different agencies that it did actually occur. So that is progress,


a change? That is progress. Up until this point he has probably not had


the briefings or access to the information to be able to see that


definitively, yes, Russia interfered in the US election. Now it is nice


to see he is changing his tune and let's hope for the best. Everyday is


a surprise with Donald Trump so I am keeping my fingers crossed but I am


glad he is finally acknowledging it. I think he has turned down the


opportunity to have regular briefings that he might have had


with some of security experts. He doesn't need them, proudly. He wants


to be informed when there is something new to say, and clearly he


wants to do things his own way but, you know, what might get interesting


from here is, as we were just saying, he has had this briefing


today, he has been sat down and told, this is what we know. Maybe


the kind of reality of actually being president will start hitting


him quite soon and he will start taking people like security


officials and intelligence officials more seriously. I wonder whether he


will be able to carry on, I mean, you might not have time, but whether


he will be permitted to be quite so vocal and active on social media,


January the 20th. I do not think they will be able to stop him. On


Twitter? I certainly don't. Twitter is a new and for any president.


Barrett Obama was the first president to have a Twitter account,


to have... That was closely monitored and overseen, isn't it? I


imagine it is not always necessarily by Obama who does it, the tweeting.


But it is a new thing for any Government to have, that direct


access to the audience. We are treading in waters we have never


tried before so I am interested to see as well what will happen with


the Twitter account after he is actually president, because I feel


that he is not the type of man to have his voice that way. No, it will


take somebody rather brave to brave to try to clip his wings but he is


also saying he recognises now he needs to put together a team of


people who know what they are doing when it comes to cyber espionage.


People who know the cyber, as he would say. Yes, some kind of task


force looking into how to prevent hacking, not that he seems to think


it has done any harm so far but he does seem to be taking this more


seriously. Clearly, to the extent that the Russians have somehow got


into the Democratic party machinery online, it seems to have been


relatively easy to do. It is quite easy to get into party machinery.


How easy is it to get into actual government machinery? It is clearly


time to take this seriously. It is also interesting, you know, why


wasn't this addressed sooner of? Why have we got to the point where he is


being briefed about it and the election has been and gone? Why did


the sooner than this something was going on and do something about it?


This suggestion is still the Democrats would not let the FBI have


access to some of the e-mails they thought had been hacked, but


according to this report which we are supposed to see more of next


week Russia's calls were to undermine faith in the democratic


process and denigrate Hillary Clinton, even if it did not derail


the presidency, it is something the Republicans have said, that we all


need to be concerned about. I think if we look at history, though,


something is coming home to roost. There has been meddling in


several... In our history, meddling in political elections is not


something new, and maybe it is the first time we are feeling it here,


or the US is feeling it, but however it is almost an about-face, because


we all have a history, out of us, of meddling in each other's elections


or other country's elections. Or having a preferred candidate... That


is all I am going to say. I am pleased because I would have had to


stop you but you have done it yourself. Under the Times. Angry


donor threatens to stop funding the Tory party. Andrew Cook, who has


donated ?1.2 million to the party, he is going to stop... Why? When?


If? He says, Sir Andrew Cook, he will find it impossible to continue


supporting the party if the Prime Minister Theresa May endorses


leaving the EU single market. This is interesting because it just


demonstrates Theresa May cannot win. She either keeps the donors to the


party happy, you know, who are largely businessmen, people in the


City, business interests, who do not want to see a hard Brexit, or she


keeps the Eurosceptic wing of the Tory party and the vast majority of


the British population happy. The majority who voted? Yes, that is


what I mean. Before I get lots of complaints. It was only 37% of the


British people in total. But it is not just up to Theresa May, is it?


The other 27 members of the EU and what kind of deal they permit


Britain to have. Yes, it is about the deal we are permitted to have,


however it has been fairly clear, clearly iterated that we are not


going to be able to get the free market without exceeding on some of


our freedom of movement demands and requests, so whatever demand comes


out, and Sir Andrew is correct in this sense -- he will not have


access to the free market unless we allow freedom of movement. We might


have to pay to remain part of it. Yes, I mean the notion we can have


our cake and eat it here I think is somewhat fanciful. That is basically


what Sir Andrew is saying, he has got a factory, several factories, at


least one of them is almost entirely dependent on access to the European


market, he is saying. He's speaking about the UK sleepwalking to


disaster if it sacrifices the Single Market. In favour favour of Brexit


see, they point to other countries, who managed to trade with the


European Union but are not inside the European Union, have never been


inside, yet they seem to be able to do business with the block. They


have some degree of freedom of movement and some degree of paying


to play, so if we are not prepared... Do the? It is somewhat


different. Just this notion that, you know, after 40 years it is going


to be this divorce and the other side of the equation in the EU says,


you know, fine, take everything, have whatever you like. It is a


tough deal to strike. It is not just a la money or support. It is an


acrimonious divorce, as we know, and it will take years to negotiate the


settling of interests. You mention Canada, and you're right. If Canada


and the US came out of the North American Free Trade Agreement it


would, people would assume it would take hundreds of years just for them


to untangle themselves from one another, and so there are some


things we can compensate for, some things we cannot compensate for, and


Sir Andrew really highlights the key tension, that we are going to have


to address, the interests of business, really of business and


particularly in the Conservative Party because it is a business


interest heavy party, and it is freedom of movement, which really


the electorate or the people who voted to leave, that is their


primary interest, one of their primary interests, so it will be


interesting to see how Theresa May navigates this because quite frankly


I think the matter what we feel about her she has been put in an


extremely difficult position where they are going to be no winners. On


the Daily Telegraph Brexit is to blame apparently for Jamie Oliver's


Italian nightmare. He is having to close some of his restaurants and he


says Brexit is to blame because of uncertainty over the future. Yes...


A big pause there, Melanie? LAUGHTER


This is tough because I love interpreters and what Jamie Oliver


is doing here and around the world for the -- I love entrepreneurs.


However, you will see some of his colleagues in the industry, how can


you blame Brexit for closing restaurants? My restaurants are


actually on the upper right now, and really before the Brexit thought it


seemed Jamie did have somewhat a history of closures as well, from


the Conservative MP, there. Yes, the suggestion he needs to look closer


to home for the way he runs his... I think we will see a lot of that, a


lot of blaming on Brexit. It is like with clothes shops trying to sell


horrible clothes, they always blame the weather, say it is too warm, too


wet, to ... But you are not casting aspersions on his quality of food? I


have not eaten in one of his restaurant for a long time but I


think it will be easy to blame this uncertainty for a lot of things.


Let's look at the hits and misses at a tech conference in Las Vegas, the


consumer Electronics show, speaking about the winners and losers in the


Internet of things, things like your fridge connected to the Internet, so


they can tell you when you're running out of milk, or when the


temperature is not right and you can switch heating on through your


mobile phone and all that sort of thing. What has been popular and


what has been? Selfie drone that follow you around, I am quite


excited by that idea. Are you? Like a miniature helper that will help


you. In the past people may have had a parrot on your shoulder. You don't


fancy it, do you? Milliwatt? Who is speaking to me... Someone is


speaking to me in the gallery. They are telling me the time, oh, I


thought they were trying to tell me about a clever tech thing. I do not


fancy that, I drone hovering over me! No, this event in Las Vegas,


these are all the marvellous things we can do within your Internet of


things, and there just seems to be plenty of examples of types of


technology that have been developed for no obvious reason, just because


you can. A voice activated bin, a fishing drone. I also saw this app


very could write on a phone and it could print out a post-it note and I


thought, have you not got ten? LAUGHTER


These seems to be solutions in search of problems. -- have you not


got a pen? No, I would be swatting it away like a flight, I drone. And


then these selfies. I must pick and that before someone else does --


swatting it away like a fly. That is all from us Friday night. Do not


forget you can follow that online. And we are there as well. Each


edition will be posted shortly after we finish and it is an eye player as


well. We are now getting back to normal know that the festive season


is over. Thank you both for coming in. Nice to see you. Coming up next


is the


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