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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be


With me are Miranda Green from the Financial Times


the Assistant Editor at the Daily Telegraph and he's also


You straddle so many words like a colossus, Christopher!


Tomorrow's front pages starting with -


The Metro's front cover has a photo of the huge protest


in Whitehall this evening against President Trump's immigration policy


The Telegraph reports that a minister has told MPs that parents


have as much responsibility to care for their elderly parents


as they do for their own children.


The Independent is worried about a killer Arctic blast.


The Mirror says Mr Trump's hotels are fitted with products


imported into the US, despite his America first policy.


The Independent focuses on the question of when Theresa May


knew about Mr Tump's immigration policy order.


The Guardian says there is domestic uproar in Britain


The Times reports that a former senior official


at the Foreign Office says Theresa May has put the Queen


the offer of a state visit for Mr Trump.


We are going to start with the Metro, Miranda. Theresa May happy to


invite Trump. I'm not sure she said she was happy to invite Trump, she


said I have put the offer out there and it stands. That's right and also


today there was a rather strange kind of kerfuffle when Downing


Street said actually the responsibility for offering this


full state visit to President Trump lies with something called the state


visits committee and then there was everybody searching where this


committee lurks and who these people are, toing and froing between the


Cabinet and the Palace. Although this invitation to President Trump


very much stands, Downing Street want to make that clear, they don't


really want to sound quite so enthusiastic about it as they may be


worth a few days ago because of this reaction. Most of the British front


pages have gone with pictures of the demonstration tonight because, you


know, since he's been elected President, whereas during the


campaign for the presidency we were all told, don't take him literally.


You know, when he promises to ban Muslims. Build walls! Build walls


across the border with Mexico etc, these are symbolic gestures and it


is more a feeling he is giving his voter base. In fact, we would have


been right to take him literally because as he has been in power for


just over a week he's started to do all of these things. Everything he


said. Anger against him has mounted. He is doing what he said. The


demonstrations here are over whether we should give him a full state


visit because of his policies. People are shocked that a politician


is doing what he says he will do. Christopher, Sean Curran, our


Parliamentary correspondent this evening, during the debate in the


Commons, as to whether this state visit should go forward or not, he


said one way of signalling a sort of displeasure at what's going on with


President Trump is you should still invite him over, but potentially he


might not be allowed to address both houses of parliament. There is a


well of feeling about this gathering. I can tell you it is up


to the Speaker of both the House of Lords and the House of Commons, Lord


Fowler and John Bercow, to decide whether he gets the honour, which


has been accorded to the Pope, Nelson Mandela, the Queen and on


numerous occasions. And the American President. Otherwise they go to the


golden room at the back of the Lords which is a beautiful room but a lot


more low-key. But it's tucked away at the back. If he comes in summer


in June it is lovely and warm in Westminster Hall as opposed to


tonight, it could be accorded to him but it will be a democratic issue


and that is why the feeling of the house, there will be a debate on


whether Trump can come here on the back of this 1.5 million strong and


rising petition. So it is not in the bag yet and Sean Curran is right to


say that because it is not sorted out for stock so that decision would


have nothing to do with Theresa May? Nothing to do with the government?


No, the Queen Rumsby Palace of Westminster so essentially it is the


Palace, the Queen says what happens there but the invitation is extended


by the two speakers, I would imagine in conjunction with the Palace but


because at least one of those speakers is subjected democratically


elected MPs, it is quite hard if there is a big vote against him


coming to do so. Are they actually going to vote, or have they voted?


I'm suggesting that now but I don't know. I would imagine there would be


an adjournment debate or an opposition date debate which would


result in a vote at the end if I was Labour, but we're not there yet. It


gives people the opportunity to ask their own MP, for example. Exactly.


To block him being allowed to address both houses of Parliament.


If you were Labour you would do it and having everyone backing it, and


if the Tories didn't vote against it they would have to defend themselves


because there is strong feeling about this. The front page of the


Guardian, Christopher. Fight over Trump visit. We have discussed that.


This travel ban, seven predominantly Muslim countries, originally also


including people with green cards, but they realised there was a bit of


a step too far and caused a hell of a lot of problems, but has sort of


been thrown out. But still this is being seen by critics as an attack


on Islam and Muslims. Exactly and what you have here is President


Obama intervening in this debate literally a week after stepping down


from the White House. I was lucky enough to be there for the


inauguration and was looking down on the Obamas' last night in the White


House, amazing time to be there, peaceful night, and the next day it


has to just gone on since then. American values are at stake


according to this. Ex-presidents normally build a library and look


after their legacy and say nothing at all on politics and get seven


days in he is intervening. It's very interesting he has used that form of


words, American values. In fact, one of the row is brewing over the


travel ban is whether it is actually in line with the American


Constitution. Because, of course, American independence in breaking


from British rule was all about not discriminating against people on the


basis of their religion that they practice. And so actually deciding


to have a blanket ban on certain countries which are predominantly


Muslim, you see the whole of Islam as a security threat, threatens the


American Constitution. So that's very interesting. And, of course, on


the Republican side those Republicans who have to work with


the Trump administration have stayed pretty quiet so far. But there have


been senior Republicans from other areas who have also said similar


things to Obama. Even Dick Cheney has said this threatens to be


un-American to ban people on the basis of their nationality and their


religion. John McCain, of course, who has a kind of feud with Trump


anyway. So it will be interesting to see how this develops. It's possible


he is starting to do things which will cause a massive confrontation


over the American Constitution. He said he would do it and he did get


the votes. This is it, it is absolutely true. He is basically


standing on his electoral platform. No one called him out over the


constitution at the time, did they? If you live in a democracy you have


to operate within its norms, otherwise you are into an elected


dictatorship. If Trump starts saying l'etat c'est moi and I make the


rules you are in different territory and you would find the law gets


involved. The executive order refers to this band to stop events like


9/11 -- ban. Since 9/11 there has not been a terrorist attack on


American soil from a non-homegrown terrorist. What are they doing about


the proliferation of guns because if you are on the terror watch list you


can still get a weapon. Obama banned Iranians for six months at some


point during the middle of his first term. You're right, George W Bush,


who some people had question marks over his time in power never went


this far. He went and confronted the problem which also had its problems.


The Tories fear Brexit bill ambush as rebels are accused of abusing


trust. If they don't vote for the bill they are going against the will


of the people. Absolutely. Chris's story in the Telegraph dwells a


little bit on the potential Tory rebels, those who might vote against


the Government's bill to trigger the Brexit process, which is what this


is. But also it alludes to the problems in the Labour Party,


because Jeremy Corbyn who, as a backbench Labour MP, before he came


leader, had a record number, over 500, occasions where he himself


defied the Labour whip. Is it true David Cameron voted more times for


bills under Tony Blair than Corbyn did? I'm sure I read that. Tweet the


answer. Or is that fake news? I think it might be true. Corbyn is


facing a massive rebellion having ordered everyone to vote to trigger


Brexit, a lot of Labour MPs are unhappy about that and thought to be


voting against it. Could it fail? Of the bill fail? Almost certainly not


because the numbers are there. They have got the numbers? Yes. They are


worried overnight that they cannot have a vote at the end of the second


reading, tomorrow and then the next day. The concern is there might be


an ambush vote at 11 o'clock tomorrow night, they might not be


enough government MPs around. It is a headache for the whips. They have


a running whip. The front page of the Telegraph, your paper,


Christopher, good story. Care for parents like your children. On the


face of it the headline makes perfect sense. It is interesting,


Stephen Swinford, my colleague in the office got a great story. They


have became minister and he is saying we should take more care of


our elderly parents. For any person of my age and above we always worry


about our parents and increasingly so and he made a good point here


that hasn't been made yet. We can't always outsource it to the state and


we have a duty. You see when you have family members living with


younger families, we need to be more willing to look after our parents. I


think that is half the answer of the social care crisis, not the entire


answer but half the answer. Moving forward in terms of finding the


finances. Usually you would have to sell your parents' house, wherever


they lived, in order to care for them. To pay for the care home.


Maybe children should be going further than that and finding the


money themselves. It is a good talking point. Or have everyone


living together. If you look at human history, this period where we


all have these nuclear families and live in these quite small groups


rather than in one big family group, it is kind of an anomaly and I think


there is a very good argument for going back to how it used to be done


and having different generations living together. It's easier to


bring up the children like that. The old people and young people get on


very well and there would be less pressure on the sandwiched


generation in the middle who are the workforce and you wouldn't have this


terrible problem with elderly people very lonely, ill on their own,


really being farmed out to professionals rather than being


looked after by those who love them. Apparently we are all descended from


this thing on the bottom of the i. It says media answer Dominic answer


step, one millimetre long, this creature that we all come from. I


love the story. Because of world events recently, we have all thought


humanity can only move forward and progress. If we are going to start


going backwards this is our destination because we are


apparently all descended from this tiny little worm, a wrinkled old


sack, it is described in some of the papers, on the ocean floor wriggling


around. That is the organism from which we all spread. In the same way


that that wonderful ape that was found, Lucy. Even Lucy was descended


from this one millimetre long worm. It is not to scale! Not to scale but


it does make you think, absolutely. Miranda and Christopher, thank you


for looking at some of the stories behind the headlines.


Hello. Scotland had the best of Monday's sunshine but there will not


be much on offer during Tuesday as the weather front, very slowly edges


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