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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be


With me are Susie Boniface, columnist at the Mirror,


and Michael Booker, the Deputy Editor of The Express.


Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...


The Daily Express, which campaigned for the UK


to leave the European Union, is in jubilant mood and it's


summed in its headline: "Now We're On Our Way Out


The Daily Mail also backed Brexit and calls the Government win a


crushing vote. It has the statue of Winston Churchill on the front page.


The Metro is more neutral in its tone on its front


The "i" says Britain has taken a step into the unknown and we face


a bitter fight with Brussels over a ?50 billion divorce settlement.


The Times reports that Tory MPs are threatening to rebel over Brexit


unless Theresa May guarantees the right of EU citizens to stay in


Britain. According to the Guardian, Labour


has its own problems, with a fifth of MPs defying Jeremy Corbyn and


voting against the triggering of Article 50.


We will put up the front pages of two of the leading Brexit


newspapers, you could say. The Daily Mail, there it is. And the Express.


The two, side-by-side. There you go. The Daily Mail: We have liftoff. We


did it first. It was you that won it. 2010 we started that crusade.


400,000 readers of the Daily Express, and we know our readers,


that is why we do this, sent in coupons to the paper. We deliver


them to Downing Street, we wanted a referendum, they wanted a


referendum, the readers. They will be very pleased, I believe, tomorrow


morning to read the paper. Susie, there are a lot of people who won't


be pleased. But regardless of how he voted, we are all Brexiting now. We


should not continue the division. What is interesting, with all due


respect, is that the hyperbole that the newspapers have, saying, this is


an amazing victory, the Article 50 cases dreadful, and all the rest of


it, no, this is not even the start of something. This is a blow to


agree that Theresa May can ask for the permission to trigger a process


that might or might not end... You know, this kind of headline, you


could have had. The readers of the Express and the Daily Mail know it


will take a bit of work. I think everyone thinks it's a done deal,


and it isn't. I think they would like to see that there is some


movement finally happening. When this takes a year, or another year,


what happens? The hyperbole has built people up, and if it doesn't


happen... Isn't that what tabloid papers do? Where is my gavel? Could


I interject a concept here? Isn't the point of today's vote that we


are leaving the European Union? No. Up to this point, we could turn


back. Theresa May has to go to the European Council and officially say


we're leaving. This gives her the permission. It gives the right to


trigger Article 50. What today is about is the fact that Parliament


said to Theresa May, you cannot use the royal prerogative, the ancient


right of kings and queens in this country, to pass a law. That is what


the whole Article 50 court case was about, and for the first time in


over three centuries, the Prime Minister... It was a done deal


anyway. IQ suggesting, Suzy, that at some point down the line, when the


negotiations turned to rubbish, and it is all dreadful, we have to pay


back ?50 billion, we will somehow decide, we have to have another


referendum? No. That is my point. Today, it means we're leaving the


EU. The referendum was merely advisory. Though were all those


caveats that are now gone. We're leaving, which is why this is such a


big day. What has not been approved as the method. That will be the


biggest hurdle. Absolutely. We heard the likes of Anna Soubry, who was a


remainer from the Tories, talking about a meaningful vote at the end


of the process, so we know there will be more hurdles. For these two


newspapers, it is legitimate to have these headlines. Even the "i", at


the very top of their paper, they said: We're off - Britain takes step


into the unknown. The same papers said the same things last year.


Suzy, as the "i" says, this is a step into the unknown. When you get


divorced, this is the time... Someone says, I think you should go.


It doesn't quite know what its readers feel. Unlike the Express,


which knows its readers. Well, we do. You're the man!


Mr Dacre, what's going on there? Let's go to the Times, because this


is interesting. We're going to reflect perhaps on Labour's


problems, but the Conservatives, a fabulous day it would seem for the


majority of those MPs, but Theresa May faces Tory revolt after MPs back


Brexit. What do they want? Reassurance that the 3.3 million EU


citizens living in Britain will be allowed to stay. Theresa May is


holding them as a bargaining chip against all the Brits living in the


EU at the moment. These Tory MPs, and I think they are going to throw


things in the spokes all the way along, Anna Soubry has said there


needs to be a meaningful vote, and people like her and Nicky Morgan


will keep coming out with these things. Yes, we are on the way, but


there will be problems, and this is key. Have there been any Tory


amendments tabled? Don't think so. So this will be pressure behind the


scenes? It seems to be, but we don't know yet. We have had these people


in the debate so far. They are saying, we're not happy and we want


a proper vote. The Tories are massively split ideological year of


Europe for 30 or 40 years, and they are still split in the same ways,


it's just that now the boot is on the other foot and now it is the act


wrenches -- the back benches. The Tories are tearing themselves apart.


Labour even more so. When it comes to parties tearing themselves apart,


perhaps Labour, Suzy, is in a real bind. A fifth of Labour MPs, the


front page of the Guardian, the Fai Jeremy Corbyn, a man -- defy Jeremy


Corbyn, a man who has defied his own party many times. It is a massive


headache for him. He has to have another reachable. I'm not even sure


he finished the last one, so that will be interesting. Labour has


traditionally been a coalition of different bits of society, if you


like. It has had the working class, poorer paid people, the proper old


Labour, as it would be known. Then there is the new Labour side of


things, slightly more middle-class, more well-heeled, public sector


workers, perhaps. And they find that those two halves probably go to


different ways in the referendum, and they are probably finding that


those two areas are under attack by the Tories or UK, so how do you get


them back under the same umbrella? In the current climate, it is


incredibly difficult. Corbyn, to be fair, has an almost impossible job,


but he's making such a complete mess of it and cannot control his party


or convince them that he has a grand plan as to how to get through the


next 5-10 years, or how to become Prime Minister. The headline seems


to be this doom for Labour thing, but it feels like that has gone on


for a couple of years. This whole thing is deepening the cracks. He


will reshuffle and then we will have a different bunch of no marks in


there. Labour are making such a complete mess of things, no one is


really noticing and a Tory backbenchers who are agitating and


may begin a rebel against Theresa May are easier to hold in check,


they don't get as much TV time. It doesn't seem quite as bad for


Theresa May. At PMQs, again, Jeremy Corbyn had an open goal is to hit,


and he didn't do it. Does it make any sense, given everything you


describe brilliantly about the Big ten, Labour having all these


different sections of society and different points of view, trying to


keep it together, did it make sense to come down on one side of this and


not allow MPs a free vote? No, it was stupid. Corbyn should be saying


we are a big tent. We have remainers and leave sufferers -- and levers.


Labour has this huge dichotomy, as does the country, and what you need


in an opposition party at this stage is a clear message. I genuinely


think, whether Labour had, for or against remain orally, it would have


done much better and we would have had a proper opposition. Diane


Abbott didn't make the vote tonight. Her constituency voted to remain. I


hope she gets well soon. We are moving away from Brexit to another


world war, someone is suggesting. Trump to put Teheran on notice after


missile test. Do you suggest some skulduggery here? It is not, it is


just ineptitude. Buffoonery. Trump has said that Obama's nuclear deal


with Teheran and lifting sanctions in order for them to ease back on


nuclear power revelation was ridiculous -- nuclear proliferation.


What has happened now is that his security adviser, Michael Flynn, has


said that Iran has been acting up, doing various bits of insurgency


tactics and things the Americans don't like, boarding frigates and so


on, so we are going to tell you off, basically. He has put them on


notice, gave no details about how that would happen. It is basically


an empty threat. Then Sean Spicer, he said the president wanted to sure


the Iranians understood we are not going to sit by and not act, then


didn't act. Do you really think Donald Trump is going to say, all


right Ayatollah... These are not scary, they are just bad. At the


same time, he labelled Iran as a threat and he's making it clear that


he is keeping an eye on them. It is what his supporters want. We hope we


are going to say that he knows what he's doing at some point. We hope


that is the case. Michael Flynn is very hawkish in himself anyway.


Donald Trump is saying these things, and it is so vague as a statement


that it could almost be a declaration of war are just finger


wagging. We don't know what level to take from Donald Trump at the


moment. If you have HN, you are going to get a smack on it by


somebody. America has been this super power for so long and wants to


rattle Bebear's cage. If you look for a fight, someone will eventually


say, all right, I will take you in handicaps. A very good analogy.


Meanwhile, in France... Let's go to the front page of the Independent.


Marine Le Pen is riding high in the polls. She is extending the lead,


particularly against the fact that the right-wing candidate who was


likely to do very well, Fillon, is an mired in -- is mired up in a


scandal. She clearly seems to be the world think she's clothing and seems


to be trying to adopt the softness of policy and image as well. You


hope to God that the French see through it. At the moment, it seems


to be building up. She is on a populist way. There was a popular


French newspaper editor sometime last year that might have said the


same thing about Nigel Farage in the UK. The parties are slightly


different, to be honest. I am not Ukip voter. The upshot is, there is


very real possibility, probably for the first time in history, of the


far right - not the first time in history, don't want to go back to


World War II - doing very well in the election of potentially winning.


The Europe has a nasty habit of voting in the far right will stop --


the far right. Finally, to send you all to bed with a nice rosy glow,


someone is having twins. What do I say now? Clive didn't want to do


this story. The interesting thing is, she announced her pregnancy in


the style... When I announced that I put the baby scan on Facebook. She


announced that by stripping down to her smalls, putting a yellow net


curtain over her head, posing in front of what looked like a funeral


wreath and releasing it on Instagram. And some people haven't


putted on the front page. 'S! Al tell you what is frightening, Ed


Balls. Front page of the Metro. Everyone likes him now. Maybe you


will put them on the front of your newspaper. He was not a pin-up. He


said, if I was trying to get back into politics, I wouldn't have worn


a yellow suit. It is not a definite. He might be back, folks. He is


flirting with us. Silence! Thanks for looking at the stories behind


the headlines. It was a pleasure. Before we go, these front pages have


come in while we've been on air. The FT leads on the votes to trigger


Brexit. The Sun leads with the story of a judge who was furious with a


woman who was called before the court for calling a man a pussy. If


you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it endlessly on


iPlayer. I do. I don't! Goodbye. Good evening. We are monitoring


developments in the Atlantic closely. There is a potential storm


for Friday. Thursday will be wet and windy enough for


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