04/02/2017 The Papers


04/02/2017

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the The Papers will be

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With me are the broadcaster Penny Smith and Caroline Wheeler,

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political editor of the Sunday Express.

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Let's take a look at some of the front pages.

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The front page of the Sunday Telegraph leads on the government's

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?60 million investigation into historic allegations

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The paper says MPs are due to report that it's unfit for purpose.

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The Observer reports that Theresa May's government

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is going to make a major shift in housing policy - away from trying

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to promote home ownership - and towards better deals for people

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Donald Trump appears to have found a new ally

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in the shape of the former Archbishop of Canterbury.

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George Carey is quoted in the Sunday Express as hitting out

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at the "hysterical" overreactions of the president's critics.

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The Sunday Times has investigated what it calls "deficiencies"

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in defence procurement, including ships so noisy,

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Russian submarines can hear them 100 miles away.

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The photograph is of England player Ben Te'o celebrating victory over

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Finally, the Mail on Sunday headlines that former Ukip leader

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Nigel Farage is sharing a ?4 million in West London with his friend

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with his friend Laure Ferrari, a French politician.

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Let's begin with the papers themselves and the ones we thought

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we would give people a bit of a rest from Trump to start with. We can't

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avoid the man but let's start with the Observer story about the Tories

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breaking with Thatcher's home policy. This is interesting, backing

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renting. This is something I've been talking about for some time. In

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other countries, you have a more mobile workforce if you have people

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who rent, for example. This is finally an acknowledgement by the

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government that is saying, for too many people, they will never own

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their own homes. It is now so far out of reach that they never will so

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let's try to sort out these ridiculous rents, banned some of the

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fees that are charged by letting agents, try to sort out rogue

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landlords and make it so that renting is not a terrible option, so

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that you don't have to spend your entire life trying to get on the

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tiny, possibly broken first rung of the housing ladder. Caroline, quite

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a switch when you think of conservative values and policies our

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many years, certainly back to Thatcher. Exactly, and it's

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interesting they cite that you because if you think back, this is

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also Theresa May ripping up David Cameron's housing policy as well. We

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can all think back to the Conservative Party conference, his

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last conference speech in 2015, and he said to them that we should

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switch from generation rent to generation buying Ulster this is a

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complete reversal of this. Basically acknowledging that this policy was

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putting low income families, and denying them access to decent

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quality homes at the expense of basically ploughing all this money

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into this unattainable dream of people owning their own home. And

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then trying to make it so that instead of having affordable housing

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for sale, that it's affordable housing to rent. And this is part of

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the housing white Paper. It is only part of the announcement because

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that is how Downing Street rolls, we will get a taste of this and that on

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Tuesday, we will get more. It is likely she will also make some

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announcements about building more homes because of course, there is a

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housing such -- housing shortage but this is a taster of the direction of

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travel. On we go, the Sunday express, Caroline, great to have you

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because your name is on the story. It is. George Carey, the former

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Archbishop of Canterbury, has blasted Trump's predicts. Is he in

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favour of Donald Trump? He's not saying that he thinks everything

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Donald Trump does is brilliant, he's quite cautious in his language but

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he does say there has been an overreaction and he is basically

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saying that as we have had today in London, thousands of protesters on

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the streets, he has said that you have not seen that level of hysteria

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around other politicians that he would say were far worse, like

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Robert Mugabe, or President Assad. But one of the interesting things I

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find from his particular intervention is he welcomes one

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particular proposal that Donald Trump has introduced, which is his

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refugee policy, where he is actively deciding to put Christians or

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persecuted Christian minorities at the front of the queue. This is a

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story we particularly have looked at on numerous occasions, in fact, with

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George Carey as well, in that there has been this tendency, in Britain

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as well and Prince Charles has spoken about this, that Christian

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minorities are pushed to the back of the queue and actually discriminated

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against in terms of when asylum seekers are being brought into the

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country. Terrible things happening, whole communities being obliterated.

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Absolutely. It is intriguing, Penny, that here is a man coming up with

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this kind of... The Archbishop of Canterbury, a former one, anyway,

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surprising? I suppose his point is that he's there, he's been elected

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and sworn in. Let's get on with it. He's democratically elected, no

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matter what you think about this alternative truth or anything else

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but the point is, he is there and we have to get on with it. I noticed

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some other things you have inside the paper which are rather fun, that

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Donald Trump is going to give the Queen, if he comes on the famous

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state visit, he will give her a saddle. She will like that, a

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horsewoman. Or Western saddle for the Queen and also the grandchildren

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but not just a saddle but one which is engraved with his seal and hers

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as a symbol of the special relationship. I tell you what, we

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will see at first because he will be tweeting direct from the palace. To

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be honest, that is what they are concerned about, from what the royal

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editor says. There are concerns about private conversations being

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tweeted and so forth and as you can imagine, the monarchy does not take

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kindly to that sort of thing. I can do is to imagine him taking a selfie

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in the state carriage! -- just imagine him. Don't rule anything

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out. It will definitely happen. It might. The mail on Sunday has a

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story about Nigel Farage's live in Lady and the ?400,000 Ukip... And

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all sort of things but really it's about the French politician, Laure

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Ferrari, sharing a property with Nigel Farage. What interests me

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about this, whatever people say about these things, the fascination

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with Nigel Farage is a bit like the one with Trump. It is odd, we were

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chatting and we were saying that when you consider how the party,

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Ukip, he is a former Ukip leader, he does not lead a party. They've only

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got one MP. Years, and yet, and how much he gets mentioned is huge. --

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yes, and yet. There are many quotes and I'm going to put my glasses on

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because we need to make this absolutely right. Mr Farage last

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night concerned that Miss Ferrari,... You are really going for

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this! I can just about understand you. She has been living in his

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Chelsea house but he said it was ridiculous to suggest they were

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having an affair. He said he knew her well and was helping her out

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with, to say. They met a decade ago when she was a waitress and he got a

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job in the European Parliament. She is the head of a think tank accused

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of breaking rules by diverging public money to Ukip and Mr Farage

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was quick to say they were allegations, and we should make this

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clear. These are allegations. He denies it absolutely. He denied

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everything and says he's not answering ludicrous questions like

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as he ever had dinner with her. She is someone he has worked with and

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known for a long time and she wanted summer to stay for a week that would

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not cost any money. He said it was a working Russian ship, inflated how

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you will. There is this fascination with him, isn't there, as a

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political editor, you must have to cover the story a lot. We do and

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there is this fascination and one wonders whether it is because some

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of the other politicians have slightly colourful lives and

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certainly when I was out with Nigel Farage in Washington. When you say

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you were out with him? You mean you were accompanying him. I went to

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cover the inauguration and was with Nigel Farage and his entourage for

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quite a considerable number of days while we were out there and attended

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his party at the top of the beautiful hotel which overlooks the

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White House. But he is a figure which is not only fascinating to us

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on this side of the pond but over there but in a very different way.

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Over there, they treat him like a rock star, they want to talk to him

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whereas over here, I think his relationship with the public is very

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divided. And they know his name? They know him as Mr Brexit and much

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more than Theresa May. Let's move on because we don't have a lot of time.

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The Sunday Times front page, a deadly serious story, gaps in UK

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defences. Tell us what the gaps are that have been identified. They have

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put together a precis of some of these astonishing bungles that are

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happening with our defence equipment. One of which suggests

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that there are warships that so noisy, Russian submarines can hear

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them from 100 miles away. Drones costing ?1 billion that have not

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entered front-line service for 12 years after being ordered and light

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tanks that are too big to fit into the troop support aircraft. This is

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a litany of things that has gone on with our equipment. There are others

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we can allude to, before, do you remember the aircraft carrier that

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was commissioned for absolutely tonnes of money and then it turned

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out it could never have aircraft? Even the Trident missile misfiring.

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I was going to say that. But they say that is what happens. The fact

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this destroyer sounds like a box of spammers under water and you can

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hear it from 100 miles away, you just... It does beggar belief. Do we

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know how they are getting the information? Rear Admiral Chris

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Parry, a former MoD director of operations. Someone to listen to,

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then. He is saying that it is bundling. He says the Navy

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mistakenly overlooked suppressing noise of the destroyed after the

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Cold War ended because the threat from Russian submarines had

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diminished. And it is important, this kind of story because we are at

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the moment in this kind of untested time with the new president and a

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new relationship with the president and the Kremlin and we don't know

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how it is going to fall out and beans being mentioned about Iran

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again. We need to know that our defence agreement. -- things being

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mentioned. Who wants to have a quick go at the vegetable story? This is

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the story. The Telegraph front pages talking about eBay. A huge vegetable

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shortage because of terrible weather in Spain, when they had a load of

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rain followed by frost which meant they could not replant. Lettuces, we

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know that already, they are being rationed and various vegetables are

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being rationed and now they are being seen on eBay for gigantic sums

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of money. Were you aware of the shortage? I don't know if you'd been

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round the supermarket. Reds with three children, I buy vegetables

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every day and feed them to them but it makes you think that those of us

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who have allotments, if anyone does, could be coining it in. I'm going to

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go and look in my vegetable patch right now! We have to leave it

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there. Thank you for joining us. You'll both be back at 11:30pm

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for another look at the stories

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