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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
With me are Laura Perrins, Co-Editor of The Conservative Women | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
and Joe Watts, Political Editor at The Independent. | :00:26. | :00:27. | |
Tomorrow's front pages, starting with... | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
The i leads with John Major's first speech since the Brexit vote, | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
The Express reports reports that the government could announce | :00:34. | :00:38. | |
an end to the free movement of people on the day it | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
The Telegraph picks up the story that UKIP is facing civil war | :00:42. | :00:47. | |
after Nigel Farage called on the party to oust its sole | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
The Metro shows the shock that last night's Oscar | :00:53. | :01:06. | |
And the Daily Mail says that TV licence inspectors are targeting | :01:07. | :01:35. | |
vulnerable people. John Major's speech at Chatham | :01:36. | :01:54. | |
House. The i pretty summed it up. John Major is second-guessing the | :01:55. | :01:59. | |
British people as what the best way is to approach Brexit. We have moved | :02:00. | :02:06. | |
from project fear, to project smear and B are now at project pathetic. | :02:07. | :02:12. | |
We had Tony Blair last week. I think things are getting a bit desperate. | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
No one is showing contempt for the 40% who voted to remain. What's | :02:20. | :02:29. | |
important is the 60% who were polled last week who said they want the | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
Prime Minister to get on with Brexit, which is what she is doing. | :02:33. | :02:38. | |
It was suggested that in London, which voted Remain, they thought | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
immigration should be the priority and not trade. Was John Major out of | :02:44. | :02:50. | |
the public? I then think so. I think what we are seeing here... Let him | :02:51. | :03:03. | |
talk. I can feel the heat coming off of her. There has been some real | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
opposition and the government is being held to account in a way we | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
have not seen the elected politicians in the House of Commons | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
doing. We've had Tony Blair making a speech, Lord Mandelson has been | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
writing all over the place, now John Major. They are making real point | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
about the way the government is approaching Brexit, about the way | :03:25. | :03:27. | |
they are trying to railroad the Article 50 bill through without it | :03:28. | :03:35. | |
being amended. Now they are trying to suggest... I knew she would not | :03:36. | :03:47. | |
last long. Laurie, what -- Laura what is unhealthy about the country | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
debating what Brexit means? Nobody knew until the last few weeks what | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
it meant. They can continue to debate, I'd does them think people | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
will listen to him or Tony Blair or whoever they will at next week. They | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
are not very credible. John Major's record in Europe has been | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
disastrous. He railroaded Britain into Maastricht. It is not about | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
John Major or Tony Blair it's about the message. The messenger is very | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
important, as we all know in politics. These two former prime | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
ministers are discredited. If is the tactic, it's fine. Fill your boots. | :04:25. | :04:33. | |
If that is the best they've got, I will be sleeping easy tonight. I | :04:34. | :04:36. | |
would suggest that as time goes on and the economy starts to feel some | :04:37. | :04:41. | |
of the strain of Brexit, then the message will carry a bit more | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
weight. The Telegraph picks up on the fact that Mr major says leaving | :04:48. | :04:53. | |
the EU is an historic mistake. He did also say in his speech that he | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
accept the EU is not perfect. It's not all fantastic, but he was | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
highlighting what he felt were major concerns about the government's | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
handling of the Brexit negotiations and the dealings with EU leaders as | :05:08. | :05:13. | |
well. Quite a scathing attack. Its scathing and bitter. It says more | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
about him than it does about the Prime Minister, who I think is doing | :05:19. | :05:22. | |
a fantastic job. I think he is going to come out of this worse off than | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
the Prime Minister is. He is entitled to his opinion and people | :05:27. | :05:36. | |
like yourself like to hear it, but it's amazing how the BBC now love | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
John Major. When he was in power they hated him. They absolutely | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
slammed him. We absolutely never take sides. We are very impartial, | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
Laura. It is a cheek for you to say that. The government and Theresa May | :05:52. | :05:58. | |
are talking about what they want from the Brexit deal. They haven't | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
said anything about what we will have to pay. No one is being told | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
that at the moment. That is a massive black hole in the debate and | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
all he is doing is saying look, will be to start talking about this. The | :06:12. | :06:21. | |
Daily Telegraph also poses the question, what now. They've | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
interviewed Nigel Farage. How do you keep go forward now that Brexit is | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
happening. Nigel Farage suggesting they get rid of the only standing | :06:29. | :06:42. | |
MP. That is Ukip's problem. Theresa May is going forward with Brexit in | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
a coherent fashion. If there is any slippage on the part of May, they'll | :06:49. | :06:55. | |
be relevant and important again. I don't know how you can get rid of | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
Douglas Carswell. He is either unelected by his constituents or he | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
withdraws the whip from himself, which seems unlikely. It points to | :07:04. | :07:09. | |
the underlying ridiculousness of Ukip. They only have this one MP who | :07:10. | :07:16. | |
is a constant odds with other people in the party, people like Nigel | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
Farage and Adam Banks, who is always demanding to take over the party. | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
You never know with Ukip. At any moment Nigel Farage cle comeback. It | :07:25. | :07:35. | |
looks as if he had Aaron Banks on his side. Tough new migrant rules. | :07:36. | :07:42. | |
Free movement could be ended within weeks. This is something that may be | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
not everyone thought about, that the rules kick in when article $50. It | :07:48. | :07:53. | |
will be interesting to see if it is when Article 50 is triggered or at | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
the end of the negotiations. Whatever the migration rules are, | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
they need to be decided in Westminster and not Brussels. It's | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
decided by democracy as opposed to bureaucracy in Brussels. When the | :08:08. | :08:13. | |
bill goes through there will be suitable scrutiny and an examination | :08:14. | :08:15. | |
of what the law should be, which is how democracy works. Whether or not | :08:16. | :08:21. | |
it does happen when Article 50 is triggered, everybody... The | :08:22. | :08:27. | |
important point is that everyone is given adequate notice, it can be | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
done retroactively and if rules change when Article 50 is triggered, | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
that is there enough in terms of notice given to people coming into | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
the country. Let's move the Times. The headline there that will worry | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
many people. Don't lock-up loneliest paedophiles. This is a quote from | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
the police. The public will be horrified. Give us the background. | :08:51. | :08:56. | |
This is Britain's most senior child protection officer saying the police | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
have been inundated with investigations into child sex abuse, | :09:02. | :09:08. | |
into paedophilia and the rise has been 80% in three years. They are | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
getting 112 new complaint today and they expect a further 40,000 to the | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
official enquiry that is happening into historic child sex abuse. They | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
are saying they are over spilling and they can't do with it and | :09:23. | :09:29. | |
because of that some of the lesser offences will have to be | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
decriminalised. That is going to horrify most people and even he | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
acknowledges that this stance will horrified a lot of people. He is | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
saying we have no choice. The question seems to be of resources, | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
or at least he is raising that here. Is it the simply a question of | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
money? Can you solve this problem by hiring more police officers? I don't | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
know if it will be as simple as that, nonetheless it will be a | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
shocking story. In some ways it's reassuring that people are | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
overwhelmed with stories because people feel they can step forward | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
and report. It's not just the question of not locking them up | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
because if you are convicted of something you can also receive a | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
non-custodial sentence, but what worries me about this is that he is | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
saying they shouldn't be given any criminal sanction which could have a | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
knock-on effect. If it is not on your record you will be free to what | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
were children. That is the first issue, and also looking at indecent | :10:30. | :10:36. | |
images, it is wrong to say that this is a victimless crime. The poor | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
children in those images, and there is a scale from minor to incredibly | :10:42. | :10:55. | |
dangerous image eens -- images, and I think they are level five, to say | :10:56. | :11:03. | |
it is victimless is wrong. It points to this idea that they are trying to | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
slightly change the way society views these crimes and I think a lot | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
of people across the political spectrum will probably agree that | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
actually the way we see it as a horrific crime at the moment is | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
right. You can deal with the sentencing in a different way, but | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
there should be a criminal sanction. The Guardian. It devotes a lot of | :11:26. | :11:34. | |
hits from to politics in America, unlike other papers. Trump plans a | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
huge increase in US military spending. A wonderful you have to | :11:38. | :11:45. | |
give credit to Trump. He made a lot of promises in his election campaign | :11:46. | :11:54. | |
and he is delivering on his bonkers promises. He said he will remove | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
spending from environmental policy and from eight spending as well. | :11:59. | :12:07. | |
They're trying to redirect spending in those areas to be military. Trump | :12:08. | :12:19. | |
has promised to reinvigorate industry in a Rocca as well and it's | :12:20. | :12:27. | |
a very easy way to do that, by building new tanks, ships, whatever | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
the needs. Defending your country is not a bonkers promise. I like the | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
protection that the United States give us, as you do also. Italy take | :12:38. | :12:45. | |
advantage of it, even though they spent hardly anything on the | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
military. People are being protected by the American military, who | :12:51. | :12:57. | |
liberated Europe from fascism. Putting that to one side, he is | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
entitled to fulfil his electoral promise to defend his country and I | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
think anybody who doesn't think defending your own country, liberty | :13:06. | :13:12. | |
and security should take a long hard look at themselves. But it comes at | :13:13. | :13:21. | |
eight cost to other areas. It is causing a lot of concern. It's only | :13:22. | :13:29. | |
causing concern to those opposed to Trump. We have to leave it there, | :13:30. | :13:35. | |
but many thanks for the interesting discussion. We will continue that. | :13:36. | :13:37. | |
Don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online | :13:38. | :13:40. | |
It's all there for you - 7 days a week at bbc dot co uk | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
forward slash papers - and if you miss the programme any | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
evening you can watch it later on BBC iPlayer. | :13:49. | :13:51. |