29/03/2017 The Papers

reason to pretend this is a happy day in Brussels, nor in London. --

member state. One week on from the terror attack in Westminster, a

vigil has been held for the victims. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the papers will be pretty tomorrow. We are joined by Henry

Manse, political correspondence with the Financial Times. He has taken to

this on his first occasion like a duck to water. And alongside him,

Caroline Wheeler, the political and outer of the Sunday express. The

Telegraph reports jubilation as Article 50 is triggered, but reports

immediate tension between Britain and Brussels. The Metro focuses on

the Primus to's warning that a failure to reach a deal within the

two-year time limit could weaken cooperation in the fight against

crime. The Financial Times said Theresa May's letter was seen in

Brussels as conciliatory and flexible. The Mirror reports of the

tension, with Angela Merkel rejecting an early start to talks on

a new trade deal. Nigel Farage beams from the front of the Mail with a

celebrant replied. The Times says the row over future security

co-operation might attempt by Theresa May to build ridges with the

EU. The Guardian says her, as was seen by many in Brussels as black

mail. And Nigel Farage is also on the cover of The Express. Let's

begin with the Metro. It covers the moment that the letter was handed by

Tim Barrow to Donald Tusk. The simple headline is Adieu. It was a

bit of a theatre, the way it happened, wasn't it, Henry? It was

hand-delivered, Tim Barrow, a lovely bearded man. There was a bit of

theatre therefrom Donald Tusk as well, he said that they could not be

happy in London or Brussels. This day, which nobody would have looked

forward to, they would have looked back to the referendum date as

another day. But this is an important staging post for people.

And there was a moment where Donald Tusk looked a little flawed. He did.

Different papers have used different pitches, some of them with them

looking at each other, some walking away from each other. In others they

look like they would what having a reprise, without handshake. -- The

Express. And there are other pictures of him looking forlorn.

There has been some change in sentiment in some way since the

attack. -- in the different pictures. We have this Treaty of

Rome celebration when it Jean-Claude Juncker who has not been terribly

conciliatory to the UK, has said that they are heartbroken that the

UK is not there with them for the celebrations of the 60th birthday of

the EU. In some ways, they going to miss us, but in other ways, they are

still crossed with us for voting to leave and starting the process

today. So a mixed message coming from these European leaders, today.

Let's look at the Telegraph. They have a bit of the letter there. It

starts dear Donald Tusk, a here by notified the council of the UK's

intention to leave the European Union. It was such a small thing to

say. And they were always the strokes after the referendum, saying

could we actually trigger Article 50? But no, it had to be a proper

letter, and here it is. And of course, this is the significant

paragraph that the Telegraph picks out here. In essence, we declare

that we are divorcing ourselves from the European Union. But of course,

this was not just a one paragraph letter. It was eight pages? Six

pages. Six pages. In that, she was trained to strike their tone. A bit

of a divorce, I think. On the one hand, she was saying we don't want

to be with you any more, we accept that we have children, we have two

have some kind of future together, and actually these are the terms by

which we can exist, while at the same time starting negotiations

formally by almost putting her first... Laying the first car down.

Sorry that the gauntlet by just saying just to remember that we are

significantly comes to the security services, and police, and

counterterrorism. We played the role in that and we are just remind you

about. So anything about potentially punishing us for leaving, think

about what you need from us, in the same way that we need things from

you. There was a difference in what she said in a letter, which was

watch out, our security information is very useful, and what she said

the Parliament, which is now, more than ever, we need European values.

Sort of telling MPs not to get too snobbish about Europe and save we

are above them and can just deal with it India, China, and the US. It

just shows that that sort of tension between one audience and another,

and having to say different things to keep everybody happy. Clearly on

this point. Let's look at the Financial Times. There is Donald

Tusk again looking at the letter that he is just received. The clock

is starting to take. These two years that we had to sort out a great of

highly complicated pulling apart of this 44-year relationship. You have

written a sketch peace, Henry, which was called Dear Europe: Tainted

Letters. The other Henry VIII and Edelman around him asking for a

divorce from the Pope a few centuries earlier was the engineer.

What these letters have in common with Theresa May is that we thought

on the side of the channel that we could get our way and influence

leaders in that way. It might not play out like that way. It certainly

didn't work that way with Neville Chamberlain with Adolf Hitler, and

Henry VIII. We have started the process with no understanding the

full understanding of the details. You think that they have not

understood the details? We have had semi- lawyers talking about how

difficult it will be to untangle all the ways we are bound to Europe at

the moment. -- so many lawyers. I think understanding that will be

required is still an ongoing process. We have had voices in the

Cabinet. We had Boris Johnson sang we need no deal, will be fine

anyway. And his optimism is on the front of the Daily Telegraph.

Something about Britain going up into space in a rocket. So you could

not ask for a bigger, more brash metaphor. And then Philip Hammond

said yes, actually, we need a deal or we're going to get a deal. And

let's not talk about the scenario of not getting a deal. So yes, there

are less optimistic voices around Theresa May. On pages eight and nine

of the Sun, they have little teams of who the main players are. Some of

whom I'm sure we will not be very familiar with. It just shows how

many people are going to have to be part and parcel of these

negotiations. And that does not include all of the negotiations that

are going to be required for the aspects of law and immigration,

trade, and so on, eventually. Exactly. And here we have the main

key players, a lot of the Cabinet ministers, but a lot of the mark in

Theresa May's in a circle. You have Philip Hammond, and he's had a

distinct voice in terms of fostering bride-to-be to ring of Article 50,

much more subdued than the likes of, for example, Liam Fox or Boris

Johnson, who were all sort of hooray, it will all be fine. Philip

Hammond had always tried to strike a more conservative estimation of what

their prospects might be. On the other side, you have Angela Merkel

and -- Jean-Claude Juncker. And that is only a tiny part of the picture.

At the end of the day, it also involves all the other countries,

and they have their own voices and want different things from the UK in

terms of what their Brexit will look like or what they want to establish

in any ongoing partnership with them. So this is tiny. The other

thing is, the negotiators themselves, we have the Department

for International trade basically hiring hundreds of trade

negotiators, boring zone from Canada. There is a whole to people

that will be in this, many of whom we will not see their faces, but

there will be flying around Europe and to other parts of the world. And

of course, Francois Hollande is about to lose elections. He is

definitely out. Angela Merkel has a yellow card that because she could

be out as their election is coming up next year, I think. There will be

interesting who becomes a household name amongst the European players.

People know Jean-Claude Juncker, but perhaps not Donald Tusk as much.

Will they do it every two year process, I think they should become

familiar to readers of British newspapers. Yes, let's look at the

Daily Mail, and this is a man we are familiar with. Nigel Farage they're

holding a pint, and cheers to a great British future. But he is

ready whaling on day one about the prime and so's letter. This could be

a photo from any time in the past ten years. But we assume it is from

today. I think Theresa May has two set out the few strength of the has

-- that she has in this situation. -- to set out. Security information

that British agents have a great trepidation for and do great work in

the Middle East and elsewhere, that is a another card you can play. When

you see that as blackmail or if you CV European Union's response as

whaling, that is up to you. But I think it is not surprising that she

is mentioned it. It is not a trump card to start off with in terms of

saying actually, trade negotiations are going to be about give-and-take,

and what have you got that we want, and what have we got that you want?

And what she is saying here is that our security services and our sort

of import to make input is substantial, and sort of trumps

those of neighbouring countries. -- sort of input is substantial. Nico

describe it as blackmail. Simile, on the other side, what we are hearing

from Angela Merkel and the French government, this is the sort of

thing where if we do not settle the Brexit divorce deal, where all sorts

of figures have been banded around. -- And you describe. Similarly. You

could say that what they are saying is blackmail, too. EU warns, it

don't blackmail us. That is because of the security issue. We have

security cooperation with all sorts of countries, though we? The idea

that it would automate and not continue if we were outside of the

EU, as you said, there is more at stake than membership of the union.

I figure is difficult for Theresa May, who is a Home Secretary by

background, and said that politics is not a game. Think it is I hard to

make difficult for her to play this card too strongly to early. Given

what has happened in London, Paris, Brussels, and so on. And then that

we have British citizens living in these countries, and you've been a

dicey situation if you did that and ended up inadvertently with your own

British citizens being injured in those attacks, should they happen on

foreign soil. That was the last bargaining chip. This is the new

one. I think there are enough for them to raise it, but they have to

be catalogued the tone, and I think that the Daily Mail's idea of

whaling is the Guardian's idea of a normal part of negotiation. We can

see where the blackmail line has come from.

He said he was being nice so he did not use the word blackmail. Maybe it

was an inaccurate translation. You would have to be naive to think they

did not think about it. The Guardian, page three, the diplomats

of Tim Barrow. He held Theresa May's handbag. Can we also showed the

picture and draw a parallel, look at his legs! Look at his derrier. Even

in up the sexism? A nice suit. What do you think? That is standard EU

issue? Do you think is legs are nicer than his? I'm glad mine are

under the desk. Strike a deal. The Chancellor rejects call for early

trade talks. I wonder if they are going to get any traction with this

idea of starting trade talks before the terms of our exit are really

settled. It has always been said that you cannot have that in tandem,

you have to wait for any new trade deals to be... You cannot start

talking about them until we have left. There will be lots of fudging

around even these headlines, they say Angela Merkel rules out this and

we have to pay X by X day. What Angela Merkel said on the Brexit

bill is let us get clarity on the kind of principles you have to abide

by as a member leaving the club. What things have you committed to

paying that you are going to keep an? The same with trade talks. --

paying. Formal discussions. And like Brazil and India. You cannot talk

about it. We have seen a lot of it already. We have set up working

groups through the country already including in the US where Theresa

May went to see Donald Trump and a working group was set up in America.

There were raised eyebrows, saying, hang on, were we supposed to not

formally set up any formal trade links? Is this going against that?

Who turns what has formal and informal? -- terms. In terms of

trade deals in general, we obviously have to start the negotiation with

the EU because we want a trade deal and Theresa May said that very

clearly again today. But at the same time, there is the rest of the

world. I suppose we have to do something while we wait for the two

years to pass. Brexit begins, trading blows, Theresa May and her

early talks on the single market. So much to talk about in terms of

immigration and freedom to travel. It will all have to be dealt with.

That will surely affect the nature of trade and the nature of labour

movement. The government does not like the idea of a transition deal

and like to talk about things being phased in. Actually, for all the

talk of a two year period, being out in the 29th of March, 2019. There is

a lot of continuity. The Sun is talking about the European Court of

Justice and the obscurity of what will happen with that. At what point

do we were talking about this before. How do you decide today we

will talk to this country about this issue. About whether it is about the

rights of EU citizens and trade deals We know there are many battles

going on, we can see that in the papers today, about trade and

security. But what about when do you even consider the rights of EU

citizens, whether they stopped today, Brexit Day, or the day that

we formally Brexit. A poll suggested many people thought that as of

today, if you were British you would need a visa to go and visit France

or Germany. No, really, it is all fine, you are still free to go. The

Daily Express. No turning back on EU Brexit. I wonder how true that is.

If they were to turn their back on Brexit there would be an outcry as

people feel that is what they voted for. But technically, as remote a

possibility as it is, Article 50 is a grey area, isn't it? It is such a

small clause. There is not complete clarity on whether you couldit or

reverse it. Nobody thought this clause was going to be needed. They

thought the EU would get bigger and incorporate places in Eastern Europe

and maybe even Turkey. This is a grey area. In these places of law,

if there is a political will to make something happen, it can happen. The

difficulty is seeing how in a very short period, well, it is a short

period, British politics could turn on its head and there could suddenly

be a kind of vote which would override the referendum last year.

And of course it would be seen as a massive slap in the face of those

who voted for the referendum, the suggestion being that the elite that

they like to talk about so much is not listening to the voters and

their expression of their will, trying to negate what they are

voting for. It would be hard to do that with the General Election.

Another party would use that has a mandate. Prime Minister Tim Farron

or something like that. To say no turning back is wrong, because we

are turning back the clock in doing this. We decided to join, we held a

referendum to go into Europe, and we are turning back the clock and going

out of it. Over a long period of time. Of course. The reason they

said no turning back as the headline is because that is the actual

language she used today, almost reminiscent of Margaret Thatcher.

Trying to go with that. It is worth pointing out that in terms of the

Daily Express, the reason it uses these headlines day in and day out

is because it started these headlines in the first place. Others

picked it up along the way and supported Brexit, but the Daily

Express with its 213 days after it started its campaign it has

succeeded in this pointing out it was the original champion of this

issue. They will be very pleased, won't they, without comment? And The

i has different versions of the -- goodbye from different countries.

Jeremy Corbyn backs referendum. Just briefly, the ramifications for the

different parts of the United Kingdom are immense in leaving the

EU. Indeed. In Scotland and Northern Ireland, there is a greater

possibility they will be leaving the UK in some way. The clear

possibility is with Scotland. Nicola Sturgeon and Theresa May still

disagreeing on when a referendum for Scotland should be held. Probably

after Brexit. And whether enough people want independence in

Scotland, even now. The polls do not suggest there would be enough...

Well, it is a dangerous game for her to play as topic she knows the

second numbers of SNP voters actually voted for Brexit

themselves. It is not a given that necessarily she would get enough

votes. She is putting it on the table, why wouldn't see, it was

clear she was going to do this all the way from the beginning, because

she felt that because Scotland was not as supportive in the main Brexit

as England, that gave a mandate to support a referendum. It was two

years ago she said she would not call for another referendum in a

generation. I am not sure if I am counting correctly, but two years is

not a generation. One more story before we finish. The i. Thousands

join hands in a Westminster vigil as the right inquests into how people

died a week ago as Khalid Masood did what he did. Ordinarily there would

be much more coverage of this. By the coincided with Article 50.

Exactly right. We were thinking about the ramifications of whether

it was a cell or a group of people acting in a particular way. There is

still a large ongoing enquiry into that. But there are questions about

how are you detect Parliament and -- detect Parliament. You are both in

the Houses of Parliament last week, where are you? Of course, it was an

attack on our seat of democracy. But today it was absolutely full of MPs

and years hearing statements he made about triggering Article 50. --

peers. That is right. What was significant was we were locked in a

secure zone, I don't know where you were, but we weren't able to get out

because we did not know who was out there and we were being kept safe.

The fact that announcement came three even when we were leaving at

eight o'clock last night and the announcer said both houses will sit

as normal the next day, it was really a signal that we weren't

going to let this particular individual disrupt our way of life

and our British values. -- through. They are very much entrenched in our

democratic processes. Thank you. That is it.

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