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life murder conspiracy that absorbed 1920s America, and in particular,

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the young J Edgar Hoover. Hello, and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be With me are Nigel Nelson, political

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editor of the Sunday Mirror and the Sunday People,

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and the political Lovely to see you boit. We will look

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at some of the stories in a moment. Tomorrow's front pages,

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starting with... The Mail on Sunday leads

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with the continued rising tensions around North Korea,

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and the threat to wipe out The Sunday Times, also

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leading on North Korea, says President Trump is prepared

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to strike Korean nuclear sites. The Telegraph goes with

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the potential threat to America It says that North Kreoa

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posses the capability The differences between

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the two countries is summed up in The Express,

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who call it the Deadliest Stand-off. The Observer leads on an education

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story, and says that free schools So that was just a taster of those

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front-pages. A more in-depth natter now with my

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guests and goodness, we have to start off with North Korea, don't

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we. . We do. What do you make of this? The Sunday Times in particular

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is the most worrying of The Papers tonight. Because that seems to sort

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of take war a step nearer. What the Sunday Times is saying is that their

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quoting general McMaster, Donald Trump's national security adviser

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who is saying that the America has the capability of taking out with

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conventional weapons the entire nuclear arsenal of North Korea, this

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is high stakes stuff, that the first question is what if they haven't got

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the capability of doing that? What happens next? The second thing is I

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can't see it happening really on the basis of South Korea, the first

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thing that would happen is there would be an invasion of South Korea,

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and you get a feeling it is like two pugnacious schoolboys squaring off

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in the playground. Both knows if one throws a punch they will get hurt,

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however you look at it. Certainly we are dealing with unpredictable

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people and the worry is that someone will do something really stupid. Jo,

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a lot of people saying that this is just the US trying to nudge China to

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actually do something. Yes, it is, but the whole relationship between

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America and China is not helped by where China sits on the question of

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Syria. I mean China has previously gone along with Russia, on UN votes

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and things, last week it abstained rather than veto the UN vote, but I

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mean, certainly what is happening, and you know, you have got huge

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American warships arriving, or heading towards the Korean

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peninsula, you have real pressure on a quite untested and inexperienced

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team of foreign policy people, not least of all Secretary of State Rex

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Tillerson dealing with as Nigel says unpredictable people, but in

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difficult area, you know, you have China on the one hand, you have

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Russia in the background, always. You have got North Korea, and you

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have got where do these rather unpredictable and men who want to

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make a show, it is, I have more bombs than you, your bomb is bigger

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than mine. At one point is one going to go let's show them who's boss? I

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think it is really very worrying. What is interesting is you have Mike

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Pence the American Vice-President. He is going to South Korea... Today,

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later tomorrow for talks. He is going there to have talks with them,

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and back home, in what seems a bit like the vicar at the Tea Party

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saying I am sure we can come so some arrangement Geoffrey Clifton Brown

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is trying to get a sort of all party support together, although I am

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being solutionly facetious, it is that level of bringing together

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common-sense and looking at the options, we don't know what North

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Korea has got. We have seen what they have shown us, but we don't

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know how real they. You I don't know if you have seen the satellite

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images. Yes. It is based on the movement of earth. The tests take

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place under groan, so this is where they are going, this is where they

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are saying there is something coming... You need, certainly the

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institute of strategic studies, who know something about these things,

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some of the analysis they have done is interesting. What they seem to be

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saying is look, we are not sure about the delivery systems, whether

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they are capable of doing the a long range launch or anything like that.

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That. What they are more certain about and it comes back to the

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original point we started with the Sunday Times, the medium range

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missiles, they can use, now obviously, that puts all of South

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Korea and some of Japan, within striking distance, so that is the

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kind of danger. I mean I was sceptical when I saw the stuff on

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the parade today. These missiles that can go 7,000 miles and hit the

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west coast of America. This is what the Sunday Telegraph is talking

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about. We never saw them. They were in their cases, for all we mow they

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could have been empty. Obviously, we were meant to think that is what

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they might do, but I mean, I am more worried about the ones he has tried

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out and work. Yes. OK. We will see how this goes, we will be interested

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to hear what Mike Pence does say, of course. Let us go to a football

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story now, on the front of The Observer, this is our third story,

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Jo, do you want to pick this up? So this is the story about as you refer

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to earlier, Everton have banned, Everton football club have banned

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the Sun, banned some reporters from being at training ground or maps at

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things because of Kelvin MacKenzie 's, the former editor's column.

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Which not only cast a slur deeply offensive racist slur on Ross

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Barkley their midfielder, but it was also that sort of casual sort of

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pugnacious, unpleasantness about people in Liverpool, that frankly,

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you know, I would have hoped had died out an awfully long tiling a.

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The Sun has a traditionally, it has got a historically appalling

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relationship with Liverpool. What do you think of the timing? It is

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ridiculous. With Hillsborough anniversary it is crazy. Has Kelvin

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MacKenzie got a free rain to do what he wanted to do. Why was there no

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editor? Someone saying this is is a bit near the knuckle? Let us put

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aside this allegation, of a racial slur, so there was an alleged racial

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slur, let us put that to one side and look at the columnist's job. The

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columnist's job, particularly a tabloid cluckist's job is to provoke

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people, to get people talking, -- columnist. As a tabloid columnist, I

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don't see it as provoking necessarily, certainly to get people

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talking, to try and give a different way of looking at something. Kelvin

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is the master of the insult, and what happened here was that was as

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gratuitously insulting as it was possible to be. That is old

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fashioned journalism. I am amazed the Sun re-employed him, however,

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they did. The bit I am unsurprise Iingly, I don't like the idea of

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newspapers suspending their columnist if they don't like

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something they write. I don't like football clubs banning journalists

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from covering matches, or going to training session, it seems we have a

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new kind of reaction to things we don't like, we say well ban that,

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shut that person up. Sepsis the casualness, -- sepsis the casualness

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people say it is just a bit of harmness bander. It is not harmn't.

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Unless people say this is harmless. You know, obviously, it is now that

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matter for the police to decide whether or not there is a

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prosecution. Put that to one side. It's a is slur on the people of

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Liverpool about what he said about people... It is amazing, that Kelvin

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MacKenzie of all people, would have put anything in his column about

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Liverpool but a he knows the reaction there. The relationship

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isn't the best. We must point out at this point, that Kelvin MacKenzie

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denies that there was any intention of a racial shrub. So we will make

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sure that is, that is stated because there is a police investigation.

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Yes, absolutely. All right. Well, let us move, we will stay with The

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Observer, actually. The EU Crown Jewels, we could lose them. Did you

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know we had them for a start? So, these are the European banking and

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medicine agencies, otherwise known as the European banking authority,

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and the European Medicines Agency. They employ between bun,000 people

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and they provide a hub for businesses in the UK and are based

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in London. But according The Observer report, the EU is set to

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inflict a double hue my Asian on the Prime Minister -- humiliation,

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stripping Britain of its European agencies within weeks and basically

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holding a beauty contest to see which city gets them, whether it is

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Amsterdam, Frankfurt Milan or Paris. They are regarded as among the Crown

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jewels, I am sorry, I find that a bit hard to... Maybe going a bit

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far. According to The Observer, it is worth 1,000 jobs in this country.

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We don't want to lose these thing, but then again, what do we expect?

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If we are leaving the EU, these things, they are regulatory body,

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they can't stay here, they will have to go to an EU country, so whether

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they go now, or in two years' time, seems to me a bit irrelevant, and I

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could, we are going to get a lot of this, the EU will make sure we are

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punished for what we are doing, and this is the start of the punishment.

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They are going to hurt us. Yes, we will get a good spanking for this.

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OK, The Independent and I notice the story earlier today, actually, this

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new poll giving Tories an historic lead over Labour on the front-page

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of The Independent. Still bad new, not doing very well in these polls.

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Labour is not doing very well at all. The poll is one that said even

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something like 45% of Labour voters don't think he is a very good

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leader, but this is the first time since a government, first time since

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1983 when a government in power has been so far ahead of the opposition,

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that was Margaret Thatcher, just before her second victory at the

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ballot box, so this is a poll conducted by come Perez for the

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independent, gives the Tories are 46% of the vote share so that the 21

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points ahead of Labour. 11% for the Liberal Democrats and 9% for Ukip. I

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mean it is damning for Labour, but I feel like we say that every week.

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Afraid so. I am sure if you are a Labour MP you probably feel that is

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what people say. It does say, it does say that some of Mr Corbyn's

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policies, including free school meals and forcing private schools to

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pay VAT enjoy public support but you could argue that the weather

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forecast for the Bank Holiday Monday would enjoy support and we have more

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chance of getting that. We have a real poll with the local elections

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coming up, let us see how he does there is this How do you think he

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can fix it. I am not sure that it is actually fixable. That the Labour

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Party, there are two Labour Parties in Parliament, there is the Jeremy

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Corbyn wing, and the provisional wing which is the other Labour MPs,

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I am not sure that is fixable, if, they are beginning to up with policy

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for the first time. We have seen a raft of them. Let us so if the

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public like it. The only way things can improve if he improves in actual

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proper votes, we get... Does he want to fission it? I get the impression

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that he is so arrogant, despite this image of humility and authenticity,

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whatever that means that you wonder whether he does want to fix it. Like

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any opposition minister I think he wans to be Prime Minister. Do you?

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That is the impression one gets from him, now, the question is will he

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make it to 2020 when the elections comes up There won't be a leadership

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challenge this year, there is no question after the debacle last year

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they can do it. They are working on a possibility for 2018. . He might

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not make the chance of getting to a general election. ? You wonder

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whether there is going to be pressure on Theresa May to call an

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election. You think he should. I do. It St what did for Gordon Brown, he

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didn't have the man Tait, that he was crowned rather than Oman date.

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He succeeded to power rather than won it. If she went to the country

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with this sort of lead, she would most likely increase her majority,

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which then at least she can say, I now have a mandate, and that gives

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her a mandate. It means she can in a way silence or at least neutralise

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some of the critics in our own party on such a slim majority, I it would

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help the country because it would force Labour to do something. She

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said she won't do it, which is the first thing and the second is I am

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sure she is conscious that political parties get punished by voters if it

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likes like they are doing it for their own narrow interests. It

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wouldn't be, she would argue it was for the public interest and it would

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be... If she changes her mind that is how she would argue it. Quickly,

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let us finish off with an amazing discovery. I think this is my

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favourite story. It is fab isn't it. Back to the Sunday Telegraph. This

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is some workmen working at Lambeth Palace and they discovered the tombs

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of five former Archbishops going back to the early 17th century. They

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found it because they put down a mobile phone, and they discovered

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that there was a hidden stairway, and beneath that was a brick lined

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vault and in the brick lined vault were all these led coffins. It is

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amazing, the really good thing I think is so fantastic is the details

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have been kept secret up until now, to make it all safe, to make the

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vault safe, because the museum is going to have a grand opening next

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month. A great line from the site manager, he says we see lots of

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bones but we knew this was different the moment we spotted an

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Archbishop's crown. On that note, we are finishing off on the Sunday

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Telegraph there, I hope you will join us in half an hour, for our

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fine the Paper, coming up next, it is Meet the Author. Stay tuned

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