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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be


With me are Bonnie Greer, playwright and writer


for the New European and former newspaper editor Eve Pollard.


Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...


In one of many polls in the weekend papers,


the Mail on Sunday claims the Conservatives' opinion poll lead


has been slashed in half because of Theresa May's plans over


The Sunday Mirror claims their survey gives


the Tories their biggest lead since 1991, with more than 50%


Theresa May parks her battle tanks on Labour's


lawn according to the Sunday Times as it reports on Tory manifesto plan


to offer ?100 off energy bills for workers.


A poll in the Sunday Express suggest one


in seven Labour voters will switch to the Tories


The Sunday Telegraph has an interview


with Patrick McLaughlin, Chairman of the Conservatives,


who claims that Jeremy Corbyn is not suitable to take


on the responsibilities of Prime Minister.


And the Observer reports a pledge from Lib Dem


leader, Tim Farron, that he won't do any coalition deals,


saying he wants the Liberal Democrats be the main opposition.


There you have it. A little taster. A more in-depth natter about those


papers with ease and Bonnie, how are we starting, kicking off with the


Mail? What's interesting is here you have a paper supporting the Tory


party saying that the Tory lead, which is meant to be huge, will be


slashed, and this is the latest poll, we have to talk about polls in


a minute, after tax U-turn. I think it is true to say the Tories rely on


older people to vote for them, they're very worried about the


triple lock. They also worry about older people because they are often


freelance because there's no option after a certain as, and this is what


Philip Hammond wanted to do after the Budget, they aren't going to


vote for her. You have the Sunday Mirror, a Labour supporting paper,


saying Jeremy Corbyn will have a total disaster and going through the


polls. To be sympathetic for once to the editors of the newspapers, it's


the first weekend we are having an election, there are no manifestoes,


so you can't write about manifestoes. You can't really write


about much other than the polls. I remember ordering polls when I was


an editor, they're very expensive. But in the old days they would do it


face to face. There's a sort of entertainment value in a sense.


Polls are getting a very bad reputation in the UK. 2015 World Cup


a disaster. The EU referendum was a multipronged disaster as far as the


city was concerned -- 2015 was a disaster. So here they are back


again and I think, as you said, there's no manifestoes yet so the


only entertainment we can have until that comes along are the polls. It's


interesting, listening to Eve, I suddenly thought, the Mail on


Sunday, which is a little bit different from the Mail, this might


be a dog whistle to their readership as this might be too if they think


there is trouble ahead. Let's some it up, the Mail on Sunday is


saying... The lead plummeted to 11%. The landslide they were hoping for


is not going to happen. The Sunday Mirror... The Mirror has a blowout


for the Tories. Yes. And then we have another paper here that has got


another poll where Theresa May is laughing on the Sunday Times and


there is some kind of... I would imagine the people who vote, and


that's a very small percentage of the electorate, will they be paying


attention to any of this to be honest with you? It is too early.


It's too early but we've only got six and a bit weeks? My other


feeling also as an editor, and they are very expensive, the polls, it's


rather interesting, if you talk to politicians they'll tell you if you


go out on the street and you open the doors to people, you can tell,


if they don't look you in the eye, they want to get rid of you in the


nicest possible way and you know the way things are going. The fact is if


you're going to polls online, I don't know about you, but if someone


says can I do a survey with you online I normally say no. If I


happen to be in the mood to say yes, I'm not going to give it the full


attention and I may not be totally honest because it's an advert, I


want to get rid of it and move on. To go back to what you were saying


about the Conservatives, their call voters is an older vote, Theresa May


is using later in Crosby, who ran a campaign, that was the last


campaign, the mayoral campaign, for Zac Goldsmith. That worked well,


didn't it? It sure did. But in the general election 2015 he got


through, they are using the same tactics they used for GE 2015, it's


about stability, the Labour Party is all over the place, and stability


soppy that's where they're going. That's the bottom line, if they


going for this older generation, the ones they know will show up at the


polling booth, then this is going to be a headline that is crucial. I


think this will make them talk about it on Monday morning. The Sunday


Times is saying that Theresa May is talking about tactics, parking her


battle tanks on Labour's lawn and as part of wooing those voters, ?100


off energy bills. Is that going to work? I don't think that Labour has


got a lawn at the moment. They are rather lawnless at the moment. We


all know energy bills are high and if you have children and the weather


is bad, you spend a lot of money. Somehow I don't think ?100 is going


to do it. Not for the people that read this paper. They have been a


tiny box down here, Corbyn's office in chaos, that doesn't mean anything


to those who read this paper as well. I'm going to say something


that is counter narrative and counterintuitive, I'm sure people


will agree, I think so far... There's a lot of things about


Corbyn, and I have a lot of issues with him, but he is baked into a lot


of people's mines, you either like him or you don't. There's not going


to be any surprises or anything pulled out of a hat. Teresa May is


all over the shop actually and is going to be interesting to see when


she finally -- what she finally lands on when we get the manifesto


and I don't think Labour is going to lose as much as people think. One


thing John Curtice says, he is I think the guru of all this, got


general election 2015 right and the EU referendum right, he said we are


becoming more like the United States in that there are now safe seats,


there are areas that cannot be breached. If we turn to the Sunday


Express, they seem to think one in seven Labour voters are going to


vote Tory. I disagree with Bonnie because I think you have the whole


Brexit thing and you have Labour voters, particularly up north,


voting for Brexit. The Tories are going for the North, Abe? And


they're also going for Scotland -- aren't they? There's nothing up


there, Scotland is off the table. The Scots may well go ahead with


independents and I think they could get some seats in Scotland. The Tory


leader of the last campaign didn't even put conservative on her


billboards. It was her and stability. She has become rather


well-known and well liked since. I think so but I think that is off the


table. It will be interesting to see how many Labour candidates put


Jeremy Corbyn on their campaigns. Some Tory candidates might not go


with Theresa May either. It depends on how well you are known by your


constituency. These are going to be a bunch of local elections and maybe


this might be the first time when people can say I like her, I don't


her party but I like her and she's doing a good job. I also think Tim


Farron will do well. Let's go over to the Lib Dems and the Observer. We


heard Vince Cable speaking earlier, talking to my colleague earlier, and


he was saying there may have to be a rise in taxes somewhere along the


line. Tim Farron says they are not going to do any coalition deals. He


believes they are the only strong opposition. That's bad news for


Labour because there was I hope perhaps there could be a coalition


but he's decided this is maybe his moment and he's going to have a go.


My real irritation about tax, and we all know we need more money in the


national health, we need more money in schools, is I think the more we


find out, we find there's bad procurement for drugs, the NHS pays


much more for some drugs and other countries, and we need to learn to


be good at it. I think the NHS should be depoliticised. It matters


too much for it to be a political football. And I actually think we


should think about what we should do with our schools, how we can use


them more and make more of them. These are the two areas where each


political party... That's their only playground in a sense. We can look


at it in an emotional and intellectual way and say why do


people always use the NHS as a football and education as a


football, because there's nothing else for people to go this really


into people and send a signal to them without making a big banner,


NHS... That's why I think in a way Labour is doing something that is


very interesting. Jeremy Corbyn has made this a Brexit party. I'm not a


Brexit person but I see the logic of what he's doing because the


homelands... The heartlands voted big-time for Brexit, so he's taken


that of the table for Labour and he's saying, right, it's going to be


a soft Brexit for you guys but let's talk about what matters to you, the


NHS, education, he is trying to shift the conversation. If he can do


that, and he may be able to manage that. The EU is saying that Theresa


May pass claimed that she will be strengthened in the Brexit deal by


this general election victory is the other front page story on the front


of the Observer and it has been dismissed as nonsense -- Theresa


May's claim. Whether you like her or not the election will be about


Brexit because that's the next big thing and she's right. The fact is,


I was a Remainer, but one of the things I think she will do is to


weaken the Brexiteers in her party who do want hard Brexit. My other


feeling is you have to lots of people negotiating. The Europeans


are bound to say if you want to stay in... If you want any trade deals


you have to allow freedom of movement and you have to allow all


sorts of things which this country, like it or not, and I didn't, voted


for. They voted to leave the EU. And without any doubt Brussels knows


it's in trouble. You've got the French elections tomorrow, who knows


how that will go. You got Italy and all these people. The problem for


the United Kingdom, coming in as a single player in this, it's already


got completely out of control with Donald Trump who now says after he's


had a talk with Angela Merkel, I made a mistake, oh, God, I'm with


the EU now. The hole back of the queue thing is back on the table


again. -- the back of the queue thing. Theresa May is saying that


they have to do this except, but they don't and Liam Fox has come


back sending squillion is of our tax money, he has come back with


nothing, no deals, nothing. -- except. I agree with Eve on this,


this election is another Tory proxy war where she has got to quell the


Euro sceptics in her party saying you don't have a mandate, you can't


bring this up, but that's what this is about. Very quickly, a big day


tomorrow for all these fitness gurus and charities, everyone is running


for charities, the Sunday Times saying there's huge security for the


London Marathon. We were saying earlier, I don't know if this is


right, but should it be publicised in this way? I think you have to.


After the terrible events in Paris this week, and you have to reassure


people saying there will be people all along the run, and it is a long


run, checking there is no terrible accident. You have the royal family


and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince William turning


up, this is for their charity. This marathon is for their charity


rather. And I also believe that it makes you sound as if you're in


control. Of course none of us are in control because these terrible


things keep happening. It is a tribute to the British stiff upper


lip, we are going to do this and not be rattled by it. If anyone is


wondering about the connection with the Royals, if you want to follow it


on Twitter it is mind of a marathon. Bad language on the back of the Mail


on Sunday. Not their bad language but... -- mind of a marathon. We


come from the day when this guy first came on the scene, they called


him nasty from the get go. I'm really happy that women are not


putting up with this dude, it is really good. He's in his 70s, he's


had a wonderful life, a wonderful career. From about 1978, 1979 and


women aren't putting up with it any more. Women weren't paid enough...


And now they are big stuff. They aren't putting up with this and now


this old guy has got the message, good, go off with your nasty self!


The also upset Serena Williams, I doubt she is bothered. She is


laughing, she could beat him eight months pregnant! Sounds exhausting!


Eve Pollard, Bonnie Greer, it's been wonderful! Thank you very much. I


didn't do much there! Anyway, that is it for the papers. Thank you to


both my guests. Coming up next it is Meet the Author.


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