22/04/2017 The Papers


22/04/2017

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are Bonnie Greer, playwright and writer

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for the New European and former newspaper editor Eve Pollard.

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Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...

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In one of many polls in the weekend papers,

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the Mail on Sunday claims the Conservatives' opinion poll lead

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has been slashed in half because of Theresa May's plans over

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The Sunday Mirror claims their survey gives

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the Tories their biggest lead since 1991, with more than 50%

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Theresa May parks her battle tanks on Labour's

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lawn according to the Sunday Times as it reports on Tory manifesto plan

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to offer ?100 off energy bills for workers.

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A poll in the Sunday Express suggest one

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in seven Labour voters will switch to the Tories

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The Sunday Telegraph has an interview

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with Patrick McLaughlin, Chairman of the Conservatives,

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who claims that Jeremy Corbyn is not suitable to take

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on the responsibilities of Prime Minister.

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And the Observer reports a pledge from Lib Dem

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leader, Tim Farron, that he won't do any coalition deals,

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saying he wants the Liberal Democrats be the main opposition.

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There you have it. A little taster. A more in-depth natter about those

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papers with ease and Bonnie, how are we starting, kicking off with the

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Mail? What's interesting is here you have a paper supporting the Tory

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party saying that the Tory lead, which is meant to be huge, will be

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slashed, and this is the latest poll, we have to talk about polls in

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a minute, after tax U-turn. I think it is true to say the Tories rely on

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older people to vote for them, they're very worried about the

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triple lock. They also worry about older people because they are often

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freelance because there's no option after a certain as, and this is what

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Philip Hammond wanted to do after the Budget, they aren't going to

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vote for her. You have the Sunday Mirror, a Labour supporting paper,

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saying Jeremy Corbyn will have a total disaster and going through the

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polls. To be sympathetic for once to the editors of the newspapers, it's

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the first weekend we are having an election, there are no manifestoes,

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so you can't write about manifestoes. You can't really write

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about much other than the polls. I remember ordering polls when I was

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an editor, they're very expensive. But in the old days they would do it

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face to face. There's a sort of entertainment value in a sense.

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Polls are getting a very bad reputation in the UK. 2015 World Cup

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a disaster. The EU referendum was a multipronged disaster as far as the

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city was concerned -- 2015 was a disaster. So here they are back

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again and I think, as you said, there's no manifestoes yet so the

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only entertainment we can have until that comes along are the polls. It's

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interesting, listening to Eve, I suddenly thought, the Mail on

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Sunday, which is a little bit different from the Mail, this might

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be a dog whistle to their readership as this might be too if they think

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there is trouble ahead. Let's some it up, the Mail on Sunday is

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saying... The lead plummeted to 11%. The landslide they were hoping for

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is not going to happen. The Sunday Mirror... The Mirror has a blowout

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for the Tories. Yes. And then we have another paper here that has got

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another poll where Theresa May is laughing on the Sunday Times and

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there is some kind of... I would imagine the people who vote, and

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that's a very small percentage of the electorate, will they be paying

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attention to any of this to be honest with you? It is too early.

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It's too early but we've only got six and a bit weeks? My other

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feeling also as an editor, and they are very expensive, the polls, it's

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rather interesting, if you talk to politicians they'll tell you if you

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go out on the street and you open the doors to people, you can tell,

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if they don't look you in the eye, they want to get rid of you in the

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nicest possible way and you know the way things are going. The fact is if

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you're going to polls online, I don't know about you, but if someone

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says can I do a survey with you online I normally say no. If I

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happen to be in the mood to say yes, I'm not going to give it the full

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attention and I may not be totally honest because it's an advert, I

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want to get rid of it and move on. To go back to what you were saying

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about the Conservatives, their call voters is an older vote, Theresa May

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is using later in Crosby, who ran a campaign, that was the last

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campaign, the mayoral campaign, for Zac Goldsmith. That worked well,

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didn't it? It sure did. But in the general election 2015 he got

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through, they are using the same tactics they used for GE 2015, it's

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about stability, the Labour Party is all over the place, and stability

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soppy that's where they're going. That's the bottom line, if they

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going for this older generation, the ones they know will show up at the

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polling booth, then this is going to be a headline that is crucial. I

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think this will make them talk about it on Monday morning. The Sunday

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Times is saying that Theresa May is talking about tactics, parking her

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battle tanks on Labour's lawn and as part of wooing those voters, ?100

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off energy bills. Is that going to work? I don't think that Labour has

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got a lawn at the moment. They are rather lawnless at the moment. We

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all know energy bills are high and if you have children and the weather

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is bad, you spend a lot of money. Somehow I don't think ?100 is going

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to do it. Not for the people that read this paper. They have been a

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tiny box down here, Corbyn's office in chaos, that doesn't mean anything

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to those who read this paper as well. I'm going to say something

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that is counter narrative and counterintuitive, I'm sure people

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will agree, I think so far... There's a lot of things about

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Corbyn, and I have a lot of issues with him, but he is baked into a lot

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of people's mines, you either like him or you don't. There's not going

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to be any surprises or anything pulled out of a hat. Teresa May is

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all over the shop actually and is going to be interesting to see when

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she finally -- what she finally lands on when we get the manifesto

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and I don't think Labour is going to lose as much as people think. One

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thing John Curtice says, he is I think the guru of all this, got

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general election 2015 right and the EU referendum right, he said we are

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becoming more like the United States in that there are now safe seats,

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there are areas that cannot be breached. If we turn to the Sunday

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Express, they seem to think one in seven Labour voters are going to

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vote Tory. I disagree with Bonnie because I think you have the whole

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Brexit thing and you have Labour voters, particularly up north,

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voting for Brexit. The Tories are going for the North, Abe? And

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they're also going for Scotland -- aren't they? There's nothing up

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there, Scotland is off the table. The Scots may well go ahead with

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independents and I think they could get some seats in Scotland. The Tory

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leader of the last campaign didn't even put conservative on her

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billboards. It was her and stability. She has become rather

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well-known and well liked since. I think so but I think that is off the

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table. It will be interesting to see how many Labour candidates put

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Jeremy Corbyn on their campaigns. Some Tory candidates might not go

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with Theresa May either. It depends on how well you are known by your

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constituency. These are going to be a bunch of local elections and maybe

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this might be the first time when people can say I like her, I don't

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her party but I like her and she's doing a good job. I also think Tim

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Farron will do well. Let's go over to the Lib Dems and the Observer. We

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heard Vince Cable speaking earlier, talking to my colleague earlier, and

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he was saying there may have to be a rise in taxes somewhere along the

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line. Tim Farron says they are not going to do any coalition deals. He

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believes they are the only strong opposition. That's bad news for

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Labour because there was I hope perhaps there could be a coalition

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but he's decided this is maybe his moment and he's going to have a go.

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My real irritation about tax, and we all know we need more money in the

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national health, we need more money in schools, is I think the more we

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find out, we find there's bad procurement for drugs, the NHS pays

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much more for some drugs and other countries, and we need to learn to

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be good at it. I think the NHS should be depoliticised. It matters

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too much for it to be a political football. And I actually think we

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should think about what we should do with our schools, how we can use

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them more and make more of them. These are the two areas where each

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political party... That's their only playground in a sense. We can look

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at it in an emotional and intellectual way and say why do

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people always use the NHS as a football and education as a

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football, because there's nothing else for people to go this really

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into people and send a signal to them without making a big banner,

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NHS... That's why I think in a way Labour is doing something that is

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very interesting. Jeremy Corbyn has made this a Brexit party. I'm not a

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Brexit person but I see the logic of what he's doing because the

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homelands... The heartlands voted big-time for Brexit, so he's taken

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that of the table for Labour and he's saying, right, it's going to be

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a soft Brexit for you guys but let's talk about what matters to you, the

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NHS, education, he is trying to shift the conversation. If he can do

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that, and he may be able to manage that. The EU is saying that Theresa

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May pass claimed that she will be strengthened in the Brexit deal by

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this general election victory is the other front page story on the front

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of the Observer and it has been dismissed as nonsense -- Theresa

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May's claim. Whether you like her or not the election will be about

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Brexit because that's the next big thing and she's right. The fact is,

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I was a Remainer, but one of the things I think she will do is to

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weaken the Brexiteers in her party who do want hard Brexit. My other

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feeling is you have to lots of people negotiating. The Europeans

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are bound to say if you want to stay in... If you want any trade deals

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you have to allow freedom of movement and you have to allow all

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sorts of things which this country, like it or not, and I didn't, voted

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for. They voted to leave the EU. And without any doubt Brussels knows

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it's in trouble. You've got the French elections tomorrow, who knows

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how that will go. You got Italy and all these people. The problem for

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the United Kingdom, coming in as a single player in this, it's already

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got completely out of control with Donald Trump who now says after he's

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had a talk with Angela Merkel, I made a mistake, oh, God, I'm with

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the EU now. The hole back of the queue thing is back on the table

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again. -- the back of the queue thing. Theresa May is saying that

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they have to do this except, but they don't and Liam Fox has come

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back sending squillion is of our tax money, he has come back with

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nothing, no deals, nothing. -- except. I agree with Eve on this,

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this election is another Tory proxy war where she has got to quell the

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Euro sceptics in her party saying you don't have a mandate, you can't

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bring this up, but that's what this is about. Very quickly, a big day

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tomorrow for all these fitness gurus and charities, everyone is running

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for charities, the Sunday Times saying there's huge security for the

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London Marathon. We were saying earlier, I don't know if this is

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right, but should it be publicised in this way? I think you have to.

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After the terrible events in Paris this week, and you have to reassure

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people saying there will be people all along the run, and it is a long

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run, checking there is no terrible accident. You have the royal family

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and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince William turning

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up, this is for their charity. This marathon is for their charity

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rather. And I also believe that it makes you sound as if you're in

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control. Of course none of us are in control because these terrible

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things keep happening. It is a tribute to the British stiff upper

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lip, we are going to do this and not be rattled by it. If anyone is

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wondering about the connection with the Royals, if you want to follow it

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on Twitter it is mind of a marathon. Bad language on the back of the Mail

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on Sunday. Not their bad language but... -- mind of a marathon. We

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come from the day when this guy first came on the scene, they called

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him nasty from the get go. I'm really happy that women are not

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putting up with this dude, it is really good. He's in his 70s, he's

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had a wonderful life, a wonderful career. From about 1978, 1979 and

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women aren't putting up with it any more. Women weren't paid enough...

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And now they are big stuff. They aren't putting up with this and now

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this old guy has got the message, good, go off with your nasty self!

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The also upset Serena Williams, I doubt she is bothered. She is

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laughing, she could beat him eight months pregnant! Sounds exhausting!

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Eve Pollard, Bonnie Greer, it's been wonderful! Thank you very much. I

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didn't do much there! Anyway, that is it for the papers. Thank you to

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both my guests. Coming up next it is Meet the Author.

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