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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be


With me are the former trade minister, Lord Digby Jones,


and the broadcaster and campaigner, Henry Bonsu.


They are both going to respect each other's opinion and not talk over


each other at all! LAUGHTER The Telegraph leads with the Duke


of Edinburgh who is retiring who is retiring from public


duties this autumn. The Daily Mail pays tribute


to the Prince with a salute The Sun has totted up a total


of over 22,000 personal engagements The same story is on the front off


the i - the paper estimates that the Duke has


made 5,000 speeches. The Times claims that the Queen's


consort decided to retire to avoid The Mirror says the BBC claims that


Sir Cliff Richard has spent an unreasonable amount on legal fees


after taking action over coverage The Guardian's main story


is a warning from Donald Tusk for Theresa May to show respect


during Brexit talks. And the FT's top story headlines


a six month slump in oil prices. There is a glut of front pages


dedicated to Prince Philip's service over nearly 70 years and his


decision announced after an emergency meeting at the palace,


which got everyone excited this morning, to step down in the autumn


from public service from his public duties, well, most of them anyway.


The Sun says he has had his Phil! Almost 70 years is... I am going to


ask Henry first. I will be evenhanded. Thank you very much. It


is a lovely picture for a guy who is supposed to be the man of his time,


the stiff upper lip. He smiles very warmly and the Sun has captured


that, 22,000, we think of him alongside the Queen, but he does a


lot on his own, 5000 speeches, and they haven't kept out of the


countless gaffs that he cannot win. Fantastic coverage, and people will


be pleased to keep this. I think the reason it was so exciting and it was


like an emergency, it is like last week, or was it the week before,


when we were told Theresa May would make an announcement. They are


trying hard to stop leaks, aren't they? The only way to do it is you


don't know anything about it, the next, bang, emergency meeting. In


this review of the papers, if you look at the way they have treated


very interesting, because in the very interesting, because in the


Sun, they played it, and a few years ago, maybe, at its garrulous best, a


lovely one in the Mail, Her Majesty. Which we can look at now, Sandra, if


you would? I was going to say, contrasting them, if you look at the


Times, they have him in beautiful, naval uniform. We are not using the


Times, Digby. And if you look at that, that is how the nation would


see him in his public service duty, then look at the Guardian, that has


an old man... He is rewriting the rules! I am not your glamorous


assistant, I am the host! They have an old man frightened in a car and I


thought better of the Guardian than that on a day when you could


celebrate something, they have played it happily. Except that one.


Except for the Guardian. If we can, we will go back to the pages four


and five on the Daily Mail. Thank you, yes. And what does it say?


Well, they call them the superb royal writers, self praise is no


recommendation. Isn't it? They are very good at writing and they have


done for several years. They call it the greatest double act of them all.


And a double at writing about a double act, referring to Her Majesty


and her husband. Interesting point in this article in detail about his


marvellous 70 years public service. But it says we will probably see


less of Her Majesty in public because he is going into private


life. She will probably support him more in private and therefore not be


available so much to us. We have been moving towards that, haven't


we, with Kate, William and Harry taking on the duties, and Princess


and is taking on more. And Prince Philip hasn't just been thinking


there since the start of the year, he gave an interview on his 90th


birthday in 2011, I think, when he talked about slowing down a little


bit. But of course he got straight back into the fray and it has taken


six years to get to this position. Very interesting insight in this


piece in the Mail where he talks about how the Queen is still a shy


person even though she has been on the throne for a long time and often


she will wait before she goes into a room and greets everybody to gather


herself and it is Prince Philip who is the warmup man and he thinks he


can make anyone laugh in 15 seconds. He does that, he will put people at


ease, and that is the double act. The yen and Yang. People we spoke to


have said that about him, he likes it when people challenge him -- ying


and yang. I have sat next to him at various things and he likes a good


quality argument, not a row, a good-quality discussion. And yet at


the same time I can remember Pat, my wife, sitting next to him, she had


never done that before, she was apprehensive and he put her at her


ease. She will always think well of him for that. He can have a row with


me and then be... He probably made a joke about you, Digby. Dave, who is


producing tonight, suggested we get them into do the papers. That would


be marvellous. We will get George Osborne as well. The editor of the


Standard. LAUGHTER the Daily Telegraph, Matt


has had a little look at this one, and here we've got the cartoon, and


it is the curtains that have been pulled back across the rail to


reveal the clerk, and it says unveil your own damp plaque.


It is a matter of public record, of course. Princess and, if she has


taken on more, I don't know where she will get the time, she is one of


the busiest. All of this is a matter of record but for the Sun to whip it


up quickly, yes. Someone has had the calculator out. You often think of


him reading out a speech someone has written but he have to think


something to to people every day. And even when he feels, you know, I


have so much time for the Royal family in this respect, they have


off days, they all do, and they still have to shake hands with


strangers and make them feel wonderful and they have to turn up


to the 42nd millionth... They recognise they are in a unique


position. Ambassadorial duties for the nation. And I say God bless him


and he deserves his retirement. Let's look at the Guardian - show


respect in Brexit talks, Tusk tells May, in response to the leaking of


the conversation she had with Jean-Claude Juncker. I wonder


whether there is a message to the other side as well to show respect


and do not leak stuff. Well, exactly. In negotiations, if you are


losing, get as many leaks out as you can and brief against them. I think


Jean-Claude Juncker was showing signs of that with the leak of this.


Interesting the way the Guardian - because the Guardian and the


Financial Times are both propaganda for the Remain. The other lot are


the same for Brexit. I am merely stating a fact. Well, a propaganda


sheet is not just a fact, is it? If you look at the headline of the


Guardian, show respect in Brexit talks, Tusk tells May, even the


Guardian carry in the third paragraph, appealing for a


ceasefire, he, May, chided Junker for leaking to Downing Street. So,


even they have said, hey, cessation of hostilities on both sides,


please, not just one. Yes, if you look "the Guardian has, these


negotiations are difficult enough as they are. If we argue before they


begin, it will be impossible. He is being the oil on troubled waters


because both positions are hard at and who knows where they are going


to go. It will be hard to roll back if it continues. Isn't it posturing


on both sides, and when they get in, of course, all of that horse, the


amount of money which we will come onto in a minute, that we might have


to pay to leave... We won't be privy to the talks. We won't get a


communique. So much of it will be behind closed doors. The other thing


in the Guardian report where I think the way they show it is good, I


think that Tusk is playing a blind, actually, and I think his conduct


from the day he got the Article 50 notice all the way through has been


statesmanlike. He has been very moderate. He has risen above it.


What did he say, we miss you already? He had a tear in his eye. I


think, you know, for a relatively new member of the EU, he is from


Poland, I think he is, he is an example on how things should be


done. And then, how helpful is it for a Prime Minister involved in


these talks, to say, I am going to be difficult about it? She has a


domestic political agenda, a general election to fight, she has to appear


to be strong. I will take the talking stick from you and give it


to Henry just for a minute. Part of the reason why the EU is playing


hardball is because Britain has been quite aggressive, you know. Since


Theresa May became Prime Minister she has made it clear that she is


prepared to walk away, she has played a very, very kind of close


game with extreme right-wing Brexiteers, to the extent UKIP will


be in seats defended by Brexit Tory candidates, so you don't expect the


EU Commission and the EU to take it lying down because it is a


negotiation and they will defend their positions and hopefully meet


in the middle. And there is an election to be fought in the midst


of it, and Brexit will be a big issue. What I think will be lost if


Barnier, the EU negotiator, if he isn't careful, there are two aspects


that Europe wants, one is, call it for what it is, punishment. We can't


have people threatening to leave, we have to be nasty to the Brits to


teach everyone a lesson. Secondly, they cannot cut off their nose to


spite their face and they have to look after the countries of Europe.


Can I move onto page seven of The Express, this is associated, EU to


face crisis with ?85 billion from the UK that they need to balance the


books, but David Davis says these numbers are fantastical. This figure


which we talked about in the previous hour came from the FTA


couple of mornings ago, not from the EU, the FT has a model which will


scale things up from the quoted 60 billion euros, up to 100 billion


euros, ?85 billion. And Barnier hasn't quoted the figure. The Daily


Express conflated these things together. The direct quote from


Barnier is, "We have to be rigourous in the approach to clearing the


accounts." That is sorting out the effort bill. "Otherwise The


situation might be explosive if we stop programmes, imagine the


problems." Not talking about riots in the street. Talking about


difficulties, diplomatic difficulties. He also said, in


quotes, in the article, "Member states don't have a right to those


assets, be they drinkable or non- drinkable." The big wine cellar. And


you see, there is an argument that says we have about ?58 billion as a


share of the EU's assets that we have helped to buy, so if I was


negotiating I would say, I don't agree with the ?85 billion but I


would like ?58 billion please, and we talk the differences. That is a


fantasy figure as well. Of course it is. They haven't attributed that


figure to any organisation. The figure of ?100 billion came from the


FT report. They need to stop handbags at dawn and behave like


statement that they are meant to be. After the election. After the


general election and the French election. And the Italian is coming


up as well. The FT, a couple of stories, the Thames Water fined over


river sewage dwarfed by ?1 billion pay-outs to owners of a ten year


period, Thames Water, privately held, dumped the equivalent of 21


supertankers of untreated sewage into the River Thames, and ?1


billion was paid out. How can that be justified? Well, it can't, and I


wrote a book about this. What I tried to say, talking about fixing


business reputations, and I feel passionately about the role of


business in society and how, without the wealth creative part of it, you


don't get a public-sector, you don't get tax, and I named companies that


have done nothing to help the reputation of business. Loads of


them. Frankly, this lot have just joined the list. It breaks my heart.


Because a good hard-working businesswoman sitting in Newcastle


on time, risking her house, creating ten jobs, rarely seeing the family,


working hard, she has as much to do with that story and then they get


lumped together as businesses. I am not sure it goes together. It really


worries me. And I condemn this and I am grateful to the FT for putting it


on the front page. Can people tell the difference between the worst of


big business and a small to medium-size business?


That's why we have different terms. I have been a businessman. I have


taken risks, I have lost a lot of money, that is why I so bitter


LAUGHTER We are not saying that Thames Water is not paying taxes. We


have a guy... Accountability is something we are looking for and we


do not find it in this story when you consider how much damage they


have done, huge amount of untreated sewage, the amount they have paid in


dividends in ten years and how little the fine has been, it does


not sound like a balanced approach. You could not make this up. They pay


themselves more money than the fine but then the dividend goes to


shareholders in Luxembourg and the Cayman Islands. It has got


everything. It breaks my heart because so many businesspeople every


day, watching this programme, will tell you this is absolutely


disgraceful. Donald Trump wins vote to replace Obamacare. They have


finally crossed the first hurdle. 20 Republicans voted against it but


over rolled the figures went their way. All the Democrats voted against


it. What they had to do to get it across the line, no protection to


existing pre-existing conditions. The states will be able to opt out


of the rules prohibiting insurance from charging people extra premiums.


It is going to mean that at least 24 million people will not have


healthcare who currently do have it. It has all been changed so much but


it seems there will be millions of people without healthcare but


premiums will come down, it will be more affordable... For the rich


people. And more companies to offer the policies. I find it... It is the


nature of America. Very generous country in terms of foreign policy.


There is a huge abortion issue. And yet here is a country that you can


buy a gun down at the drug stop but it has 30 million people with no


access to health insurance. The contradiction... Isn't the argument


for some people is that government has no business meddling? Pricing


should be but facility, that is for government. The government is led to


set the framework. When government retreats, it is the wild West.


People unprotected in the richest country in the world. Structure is


for government. Some collectors stories. A beautiful rainbow, the


picture story. You can see it. A diesel car sales slump. Suggestions


there might be a scrappage scheme. Ever likely that people are thinking


twice about which car they will buy. If I was looking to buy a new car


would not be buying a diesel. People are being punished. People are


encouraged to buy these cars at ten, 15 years ago. It was a government


policy. Theresa May has acknowledged that. The CBI. It was all about


turning the diesel. Interesting point, a personal issue, if you have


your car almost invariably is these days, what my mum would have called


the never never, on a contract brand which is the residual value of the


car so what you are left owing is what the second-hand price is. On


that basis, if you're residual value has gone straight through the floor


because diesel car sales slump, no finance company is going to do that.


You will find a lot of hardship because of these apparently


underfinanced link situation. New car registrations are going down. In


general. Down by 20%. Suing over pollution. The government facing


class action. From diesel vehicles. Absolutely. In the last few years,


we have a barrister seeking to bring the action. I am not sure how many


people will join in this action by claimants are looking to identify


specifically children living in polluted parts of London. More and


more people will contact her now that the story is out. On a purely


legal basis, not on a moral issue and health issue, sensitivity to


people suffering, but purely from the legal basis I cannot see how you


are going to get a claim that sticks on such a wide ranging... Where is


the cause and effect, and who can prove that it was these that cause


these pollution? We all know what is going to happen, it will make a lot


of noise. Daily Star is where we will end. 52 premiership stars,


after the Everton winger mental health problem coming to light, all


sorts of stresses you imagine being a premiership football player are


nothing but positive about the stresses they are under a massive.


They really are. These are guys who are plucked from school at the age


of ten. A lot of them do not develop the coping skills. Everything,


especially at the top level, is done for you. When you hit a fork in the


road, it is difficult. People really struggle. In foot will there is no


great deal of sympathy for quick is all perceived weakness. Years ago


clubs were not aware of the problems. Stan Collingwood's


experience at Aston Villa, John Gregory at the time, it it was


suggested he could have been more supportive. John Gregory did


acknowledge that Stan Collingwood needed to go away and get some


proper help. He understood eventually the difficulties. One of


the problems is... Henry is absolutely right, they are not


equipped to deal with problems. Statistically, there have to be


quite a few gay footballers but the point is, the culture makes it


difficult to be yourself, be normal, be gay, so what, the mental stress


that must put on plays is appalling. Even if you are a top player,


playing two games a week, there is an awful lot of downtime. They go


betting, golf but a lot of people... The devil makes work for idle hands.


Too much time, not enough to do and they struggle to cope, especially


when they are not playing. A lot would be homesick. We forget this,


one day you're playing with your family, nextday you've been


transferred to another country. All you are on the bench, not playing.


29 years old, on the bench, it can result in a lot of stress. The work


the Royal Family have been doing, the younger royals, this might be a


bit of a breakthrough. It would be courageous. It would be great. It is


a strange word to use but they could be role models. Strange word to use


when they are suffering but they could be role models. The former


chairman of the PFA attempted suicide a few years ago, now we have


Aaron Lennon, let's hope this time people is concerned sticks. And the


goalkeeper... You hope to keep it at the front of people 's mind. I will


give you seven out of ten. Room for improvement but much better. The


talking stick stays with me, I am in charge! That's it for the papers


denied. Thank you for coming. Thank you for going. LAUGHTER See you


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