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From all of us at the BBC sports Centre, good night.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are the Political Commentator Jane Merrick,

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and Ben Riley-Smith, Assistant political editor

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We will have a look at the front pages, but breaking news. It has

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been announced that the former First Minister of Wales has died. He was

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77. Rhodri Morgan was elected as an MP in 1987 and became an assembly

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member when the assembly was created in 1999. He was widely credited with

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bringing stability to the assembly after a turbulent start to the new

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institution. His predecessor -- his successor, Carwyn Jones said they

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Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...

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Plans to means test pensioners who receives the winter fuel

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allowance in order to fund social care is the Telegraph's main story.

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It's also on the front page of the Eye which claims

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millions of people will lose their winter fuel allowance.

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The allegations swirling around Donald Trump make the headlines

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The Metro claims assets of up to ?100,000 will be ring-fenced

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to try to try to stop elderly people having to sell their homes

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May's plan for a fairer Britain is the headline

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It is a seemingly ringing endorsement of the Prime Minister's

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plans. But the Times takes a different tack saving thousands will

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be hit by new care costs. The Daily Mail speaks to those worried about

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paying for nursing homes by the headline, you will not have to sell

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your home to pay for your care. The Sun focuses on different Tory plans

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that says they will target those to squeeze cash from ordinary, working

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families. The Telegraph, middle-class loose winter fuel.

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It sounds like, and we were talking about this earlier, another policy

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lifted from David Miliband. It is. Arguably tomorrow is the most

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important day of selection so far. It is the programme of government

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and Theresa May is on course for victory and she has a huge package

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of measures which includes something that Ed Miliband promised in 2015.

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At the moment pensioners get ?200 for a winter fuel payment, or ?300

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if you are over 18. Nearly all of those pensioners will lose that

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money except the poorest. It is an interesting raid on Labour

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territory. Will it go down well? There is a mixed response from the

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papers. It is interesting that it is not a big thumbs up, but actually

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something saying you will have to take some of the pain. We need to

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find this money somehow. Theresa May clearly understand some people will

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be concerned about where the money will come from because she says

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people are sceptical of politicians who claim to have easy answers to

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deep, complex problems and it is a responsibility for leaders to be

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clear with people. She is setting I am a no-nonsense, sensible

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politician and we have a care crisis and is right that some people get

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free fuel payments, it is better to take that counts and fund it into

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social care. It plays into the whole I am Mrs sensible idea, I am in

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control, I know what I am doing, trust me on this, it will be good

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for you. The Daily Express talk about Theresa May's plan for a

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fairer Britain. Many people will see this as fair. There are some

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middle-class pensioners who say, I do not need to have ?200, it is

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quite nice, but if that is a gap in the social care budget of more than

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?2 billion, some people will have to pay for that. What the Tory party

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are making clear is that this money will go towards social care funding,

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it will not be spent on anything else, it is tailored for poorer

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pensioners. That is what they are saying. The proof of the pudding for

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her critics will be in the eating. This is the front page of the Daily

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Express. Tory manifesto pledge to tackle crisis in social care. The

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Daily Express believe it is a fair policy, that is how they are pushing

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it. The winter fuel payments is one part of a wider care package on

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social care. Some things will be cheered by pensioners, but other

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things will leave them worse off. If you currently get your care at home,

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the value of your home is not counted and the state tries to work

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out how wealthy you are and will not support you. But under the Tory

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plans, your homes will be included and some rich pensioners will have

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to pay more. This is the Tories eventually putting a level on what

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you will have to pay in social care. You are guaranteed 100 grand to pass

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on to your children if you are a wealthy pensioner. They will never

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eat into below that pot. In the Daily Mail they are framing it as

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the core of your home will not be cut out either state and that is an

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interesting way of framing it. It is interesting because what she is

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making clear he is that for those middle-class earners there will be

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stuff in this for you. I think this is fair actually. David Cameron was

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urged to scrap benefits for wealthier pensioners several times

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and he resisted this and in the 2015 manifesto he protected birds. This

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is Theresa May really making a break with the David Cameron manifesto.

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They are doing other things like scrapping the triple lock and it is

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a real clean break from David Cameron's government. Is there a

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sense she is appealing to those working-class voters as well in

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those constituencies up north. We know she has been spending a lot of

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time up there since the campaign began. Is there a sense she is

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trying to reach out to them in a concerted way? Definitely. One of

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the interesting things is why did David Cameron promise this in 2010

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and 2015. They were unbelievably tight elections. Every vote counted.

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Theresa May has a lead of 15 or 20 points in the polls and can be a bit

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more free. Pensioners are those who vote and I can look at it a bit more

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straight. We are happy to take away from some wealthy people who get

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fuel payments and push that cash back into something that helps the

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wider society. That is the way the sun is framing it. But in the Times,

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thousands hit by care costs. Elderly pensioners will pay more, the triple

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lock ditched. It is interesting how the papers on the right, even though

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they are by and large idea logically to the right of centre politically,

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they do take different tax within different stories. It is interesting

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and Theresa May has a pretty fair wind in the press at the moment. The

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times are being slightly more critical of different measures. We

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were talking about the social care measures and there are different

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ways to look at it. There will be winners and losers. The times have

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also picked up about the universal, free school lunches for four to

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seven-year-olds. It was an Nick Clegg idea. They will be scrapped.

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This is another thing that people were saying that middle-class

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children do not need. It is a huge cost. Instead part of the money will

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be used to pay for breakfast for all primary school children which is a

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much more important anti-poverty issue because you get people who

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need food at the start of the day so they can concentrate on lessons. Do

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you think she will get away with raising national insurance? She has

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opened the door. The reason she got hammered in the budget earlier in

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the year is she directly broke a promise they put in their manifesto

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in 2015. They are not making that promise again. If she can justify

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that today, then fine, and people cannot say you promised to the

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public, it was a few years ago. The elderly spared the pain of seeing

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their homes sold. It is very interesting to see how the papers

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are looking through different prisms when it comes to the various

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policies. We may get the Liberal manifesto. Is it confirmed tomorrow?

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Let's go to the Financial Times. Mr Trump and Mr Trump and Theresa May

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and Philip Hammond. Theresa May raises doubts on Philip Hammond. I

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suspect a bit of betting is going on as to whether he will survive the

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first few weeks of Theresa May administration she wins. If she gets

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to introduce all those measures and to introduce all those measures and

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a mandate over her own conservative policies and she will be able to do

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what she wants. There is talk that Michael Gove might be brought back

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into the Cabinet. Philip Hammond is vulnerable because there are leaks

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about him swearing. She admitted it today. Extraordinary body language

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in their press conference today and they were being asked questions

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about their relationship. The one word of caution is ultimately she

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says and she knows she is the only one who knows if this will happen.

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It is interesting when you talk to people who know them both, they were

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both Oxford University contemporaries for two years ago and

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people say they are the same type of Tory, they are largely low tax,

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possibly both drier, less showy politicians of the same era. A

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generation above George Osborne and David Cameron and Theresa May does

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not have close political friends, but he would be among them. What is

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important for Brexit if that Hammond would want to pay back any hard

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Brexit, whereas if Michael Gove was brought back into... He would be

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full throttle. That would be the kind of sob she would feel she would

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need to make to those voters who may have put her over the top anyway.

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The Tories were split 50-50 on Brexit. If she had an entire cabinet

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of purely hard Brexiteer is, how would that go down with people like

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Nicky Morgan? One of those might come back, who knows? Very quickly,

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Donald Trump. His escalating crisis on the front page. One Democrat in

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the Congress has come out and said, we need to start impeachment

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proceedings. We are nowhere near that. I do not think so. Impeachment

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has to go through the House of representatives and the Senate, both

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of which are currently controlled by the Republicans. In the immediate

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future probably not. The interesting thing is mid-term after days and

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days of damaging headlines. Some people might be thinking, how can we

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move away from Donald Trump? It is a pretty high bar and it has only

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happened twice to two presidents. John McCain has said something

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today, but Nancy Pelosi has not said anything. They are not really

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pouncing out. If you go for all-out impeachment, this has to get through

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the Republican party. The Democrats are not united. It is such a high

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bar, but each new day brings a new scandal. It is getting to the point

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where he will be tweeting quite soon.

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Don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online

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It's all there for you seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers.

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And if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it

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For those parts of England that had soaking rain on Wednesday, Thursday

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could not be any wetter. Cloudy in East Anglia and the South East and

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