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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
With me are Paul Johnson, Deputy Editor of the Guardian | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
And Director of Bell Pottinger, Tim Collins. | :00:22. | :00:29. | |
Good to see you both. Let's have a look at some of the front pages. | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
Tomorrow's front pages, starting with... | :00:34. | :00:35. | |
The Financial Times leads with the undisputed | :00:36. | :00:36. | |
political story of the day - the Conservatives' | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
It says it's "rattled" the Tory campaign. | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
It reports there's confusion about exactly what the new social | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
It calls it "May's manifesto meltdown". | :00:46. | :00:55. | |
Pensioners will pay for the new policy, | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
according to the Times, but it reports that Tory sources say | :00:58. | :00:59. | |
it won't require tax rises or spending cuts. | :01:00. | :01:01. | |
The Metro says that the Prime Minister has denied accusations that | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
she's not so much "strong and stable" as "weak and wobbly". | :01:05. | :01:16. | |
The Mirror asks, how can we ever trust Mrs U-turn? A different lead | :01:17. | :01:25. | |
investigation reveals vulnerable investigation reveals vulnerable | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
teenagers have been exposed to pornography through Facebook. | :01:28. | :01:29. | |
A rather topical front page from the Express, | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
although it's not actually about the so-called dementia tax. | :01:32. | :01:33. | |
It says scientists have found dementia runs in the family. | :01:34. | :01:36. | |
Tim, I'm going to start with you. Theresa May, strong and stable all | :01:37. | :01:47. | |
week and wobbly, like jelly on a plate, so goes the nursery rhyme! | :01:48. | :01:53. | |
This plays against the very thing that she was trying to put forward | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
in this campaign, it's all about leadership, that it's about a strong | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
negotiating hand, that you want Boadicea leading us into these | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
Brexit talks. Jolyon a plate, according to the Metro? -- jelly on | :02:07. | :02:11. | |
a plate. Brexit more than anything else was about politicians not | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
listening. For decades they wouldn't listen to what the public was saying | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
about emigration and power is going to Brussels. We do have a prominence | :02:19. | :02:24. | |
to now who clearly has listened. -- we do have a Prime Minister. The | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
reaction of particularly Tory leaning voters on the doorstep was | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
very negative to this, and she has listened. The thing about the U-turn | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
bit, that element of the policy that is new today actually takes us | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
straight back to David Cameron's policy and what was the Goverment's | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
policy until a week ago, that there should be a cap. It's not as if she | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
has plucked an idea out of nowhere. That used to be a Tory Party policy, | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
I thought about it further and we will go back to it. Paul, it was | :02:53. | :02:57. | |
clear what Tory cause was under David Cameron last week. In fact, | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
Quadri days ago -- what Tory policy was. She decided to pass it out and | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
now she has brought it back in again. I was looking forward to see | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
how Tim would spin his way out of that one! This is a complete | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
shambles. The first time in history that a manifesto promise has been | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
broken even before the election. It's just been a day of complete | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
confusion. You've had a very angry Prime Minister, ministers running | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
away from BBC TV cameras shown on screen. You had anger, blame gaming, | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
you've had finger-pointing, the whole thing. It is a meltdown. It's | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
being called meltdown Monday. This is not a rational act, it was forced | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
upon Theresa May on the Government. Tim, come on, the front page of the | :03:40. | :03:47. | |
Telegraph, chaos. The fact is, there were people within her own party, | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
people within the Cabinet to thought it was a bad idea. Is she just not | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
listening to anyone? I do think one of the lesson that has come out of | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
this is that we know, this is true with Tony Blair and probably with | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
David Cameron, he had a very sort of gilded circle, it does seem that | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
prime ministers of all parties are to you eager to just listen to a | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
very few voices and they tend to govern much better when they listen | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
to a wider Cabinet and consult a bit more. That is probably a lesson that | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
needed to be learned by Mrs May, as it was learned by her predecessor. I | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
suspect after this, she will... One thing that is good about her is that | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
she does listen. She campaigned for a Mane and now she is carrying | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
through Lees, but she listened,. I don't think she will make this | :04:35. | :04:41. | |
mistake again. They get up this morning and say, Prime Minister, | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
we've got to get rid of this, how do we get rid of the policy? What we | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
do, Prime Minister, we ditched the policy, how do we explain that? We | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
say that nothing has changed. But who do we blame? We can't blame | :04:56. | :04:58. | |
Cabinet ministers or the head of policy at Downing Street, they had | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
nothing to do with it. We will blame Jeremy Corbyn! How do we do that? | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
Say it is fake news, that is how we get out of it. By the way, you have | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
a half an hour slot in your diary this afternoon to explain all of | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
this to Andrew Neil! I bet that went down well! It is a difficult day. Is | :05:15. | :05:21. | |
it a mortal wound? No, the reality is we are going to come on later to | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
the story about opinion polls. It is important but all of this in | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
context. She remains further ahead even in the worst opinion polls that | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
were above is a work published over the weekend than Margaret Thatcher | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
was before her general election landslide, more than Tony Blair was | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
in his worst poll before the 1997 landslide. The reality is, most | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
general elections over the last 30 or 40 years, in fact, every general | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
election, you have had the result in the end that you did in the middle. | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
We get very excited about these things, but most rotors have made up | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
their minds already. They decided that they prefer Mrs May to Mr | :06:03. | :06:07. | |
Corbyn. This hasn't been a great day for her but it won't change | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
anything. Left-leaning press, Paul, playing this. Your front page in the | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
Guardian is doing so, the Daily Mirror as well. How can we ever | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
trust Mrs U-turn? Not the most flattering picture of the Prime | :06:21. | :06:24. | |
Minister. PM flip-flops again. The fact is, she still is, according to | :06:25. | :06:31. | |
the polls, we ahead of the Labour Party. This has been a good day for | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
them. -- we ahead. We seeing an element of hubris here on behalf of | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
the Prime Minister, because she was so far ahead, we have the changes to | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
getting rid of free school lunches we have means testing winter fuel | :06:44. | :06:50. | |
payment, winter fuel allowance is. And we've now got this U-turn as a | :06:51. | :06:56. | |
result of the belief that she could potentially scare her core vote. | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
Yes, it is quite extraordinary. You could characterise this as callous | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
or as complacent, you could characterise it as a trust issue. | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
You could characterise it as the right thing to do! There is no doubt | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
she did the right thing by introducing the future of social | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
care into the rational conversation, there's no doubt something has to be | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
done about intergenerational wealth. But to do it in this way was very, | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
very or indeed. To say to a big ball of the country, to say to a big pull | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
of your constituency -- you're going to have to pay, I'll tell you how | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
much after the election. I understand why Tories like me or | :07:36. | :07:38. | |
upset with the idea of undermining the principle of inheritance. What I | :07:39. | :07:43. | |
genuinely don't understand is how socialists like John McDonnell or | :07:44. | :07:45. | |
Jeremy Corbyn can say, we're going to fight for the right of | :07:46. | :07:48. | |
multimillionaires in the south of England to hand over the entire | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
value of their homes. We're going to fight to make sure that | :07:53. | :07:54. | |
multimillionaires keep the winter fuel allowance is. Why is the left | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
saying, we are keeping every privilege for the rich? I thought | :08:00. | :08:03. | |
Jeremy Corbyn's allowance is that the system is rigged for the rich. | :08:04. | :08:09. | |
It's mad! I think we are in argument about whether the rights or | :08:10. | :08:16. | |
wrongs... The triple lock. The Conservative sums don't add up. In | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
the Andrew Neil grilling we saw, tell us about taxes. I can't give | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
you any promises. Tell us about the NHS and the extra ?8 billion. I | :08:26. | :08:28. | |
can't tell you where it is coming from or whether it is new money or | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
not. There two default position is that the primers has. Number one is | :08:33. | :08:38. | |
evasion, number two is blame Corbyn. The most important sadistic she out | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
with in that interview was she said, in the next ten years there will be | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
2 million more people over the age of 75 needing care. We can't expect | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
people in work to pay higher taxes because the tax burden is the | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
highest it has been for 30 years. We can't borrow it because our or ring | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
is far too high. Where do we get it? At least the Tories have some ideas | :08:59. | :09:01. | |
about. Labour is the magic money tree and a free unicorn for | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
everyone! If we had got to the Don Lock cap, it could have been costed. | :09:07. | :09:15. | |
-- the Andrew Dilnot cap. Ministers yesterday was on... Gentlemen, | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
please! I need a whistle or something! We are back to the cap, | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
but we don't know what the cap is, the interesting debate, no limit has | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
been set by the Conservatives so far. Paul, interesting, this poll. | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
This is the Huffington Post suggesting that in Wales Labour are | :09:35. | :09:40. | |
racing ahead with Welsh voters stop your yes, this is curious, this | :09:41. | :09:46. | |
poll. They are talking about an extraordinary 16 points swing to | :09:47. | :09:52. | |
Jeremy Corbyn's favour in Wales. Now, we've been here before with | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
swings. We've been here before with poles. We are quite a way out from | :09:57. | :10:04. | |
polling day. These figures are doubtless moving around, but they | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
are only moving in one way. The Tory vote is staying basically steady, or | :10:09. | :10:12. | |
so it seems. Labour seems to be inching up. And the other parties | :10:13. | :10:18. | |
seem to be involved in a third-place play-off. Polls are just polls, | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
that's it. Lets not forget, the polls called the referendum wrong, | :10:24. | :10:26. | |
they called Trump from, they called the last general election wrong, I | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
wouldn't get too excited. I know you are looking forward to the great | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
socialist republic, but it ain't going to happen. You were talking | :10:35. | :10:37. | |
only about how far ahead Theresa May was in the polls. If she is as far | :10:38. | :10:43. | |
ahead as Mrs Thatcher was, it she didn't do very well either. Let's | :10:44. | :10:46. | |
move on to the Financial Times, Trump at the wall. I hope we can get | :10:47. | :10:53. | |
this picture on screen. Can you imagine from tweeting this out to | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
say, number one he is made stopping a flood by holding back the waters! | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
-- here is me. Number two, I told you I would build a wall! It is | :11:03. | :11:11. | |
significant, though. It is significant and very interesting, | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
the significance has been underwhelmed, it has got into | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
difficulties. Because Trump, his approach to secrecy has been | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
encapsulated in this visit. In a trip to talk to the Russians he | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
talks about secret intelligence being passed on from Syria. He then | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
gets other people to deny it. He then confirms it himself, and today | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
he says in public, oh, but I'm never mentioned Israel, it wasn't me, | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
honest. It's! It was an incredible clanger. One issue of substance. At | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
the weekend he was in Saudi Arabia, he spoke at a conference of 40 | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
Islamic countries, all of whom are delighted that under him US foreign | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
policy is going back to its traditional stance of backing the | :11:54. | :11:56. | |
Saudi view of the Middle East rather than the Iranian view of the Middle | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
East. Although that will be unpopular with some, he is amazingly | :12:01. | :12:03. | |
popular in the Gulf states, because they feel that America is back being | :12:04. | :12:13. | |
their friend against. The Times, apparently storms and tea on not | :12:14. | :12:16. | |
going to be part of the break between cricket matches as people | :12:17. | :12:22. | |
thought they would. When I saw this on page three I wondered why it | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
wasn't on the front page! And act like this ripping apart the very | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
fabric of society, this has got to be another thing that Jeremy Corbyn | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
has come up with! But it isn't. There is a reason it is the bottom | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
of page three, it is talking about doing away with cucumber Sam Wood | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
is, but it comes from Tony Oxley of fear of Cricket club. -- cucumber | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
sandwiches. -- fare Roque Cricket club. If it was the Test matches, it | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
would be the most important story of the day. I wonder why the Theresa | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
May to boggle is not on the front of the Daily Mail. -- De Bock all. | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
Don't forget, you can see the front pages of the papers online | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
It's all there for you, seven days a week, at bbc.co.uk/papers. | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
And if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it | :13:13. | :13:15. |